Simple thread. What would you like to encourage people to do in Arm?
I'd like to encourage people to just hate people without having any real desire to kill them most of the time.
I would like to encourage more gemmer hate. Ignoring mages != hating them. Noble Lord Fancypants won't give a crap. Lord Templar Hardnose won't give a crap. Be a prick.
I'd like to encourage people to play more mutants!
Drama. Get a somewhat extreme personality and stick to it, not just when it's convenient. Yeah, I suppose that encourages them to hate each other too.
Also, I'd like to see people more willing to have fun losing. I mean some people go into the game with a pre-set idea that their character is going to have high stats in everything, an awesome kick-ass character, and still RP as if their character is awesome even when he's not. I'd say use the coded flaws to add to your RP. Like if you have low agi, give your character a twitchy arm, or a gimp leg. Or if your character is muscular but has low STR, then make him a body builder type - big bulky muscles, but can't use them properly. For low wisdom, make them Forrest Gump-ish, extra stubborn, prone to berserk rage, or a lover of magick. For low endurance, maybe give them a long-running problem with alcohol or spice, or give them a heart problem.
I'd like to encourage more racism. Seriously, it's jarring to see some human talk and be friendly with a stinky elf he just met.
More awesome criminals, plz.
Quote from: Ourla on February 21, 2009, 03:49:37 PM
More awesome criminals, plz.
More criminal masterminds, that wear silks and try to be high society, but run everything in the 'rinth or UT. A good thief will steal your favorite sword, and then meet you at the bar without a second thought.
A bad thief will attack and backstab only NPCs, and never move from the 'rinth or UT until they are twinked out.
Seriously. Steal from me. I ENCOURAGE you to steal from players. You probably won't die.
People making a much bigger deal about travel. The mentor of my first PC spent an RL week planning a trade trip from Tuluk to Luirs--it really made me feel as if the world was huge, dangerous and varied. Now I see PCs flitting between Allanak and Tuluk every RL day. And I'm not blaming anyone in particular... I do it too. :-[
Quote from: Riev on February 21, 2009, 03:58:41 PM
Quote from: Ourla on February 21, 2009, 03:49:37 PM
More awesome criminals, plz.
More criminal masterminds, that wear silks and try to be high society, but run everything in the 'rinth or UT. A good thief will steal your favorite sword, and then meet you at the bar without a second thought.
A bad thief will attack and backstab only NPCs, and never move from the 'rinth or UT until they are twinked out.
Seriously. Steal from me. I ENCOURAGE you to steal from players. You probably won't die.
Riiiiiight. Try playing a thief that does that sometime, and let me know how it turns out for you. ::)
I'd like to encourage your average thuggish criminals to be a hell of a lot smarter, so my criminal masterminds don't end up having to take care of everything themselves, because all their newb lackeys got wtfpwned by the crime code.
I'd like to encourage some kind of virus that wiped out people's ability to use the 'contact' psionic, from a certain distance away.
I'd like to discourage players from using certain weapon combos just because you think they'll do more damage. If it's a weapon combo that people don't use IRL, especially certain awkward, clumsy combos, chances are it will suck in game too even though you have the 'coded skill' for it.
Quote from: Is Friday on February 21, 2009, 02:50:09 PM
I'd like to encourage people to just hate people without having any real desire to kill them most of the time.
Dragging out hateful relationships is fun, especially love seeing a pair of social pc's smudging eachothers reputation for a long while before letting it build to those wonderful knife in the back moments.
More racism! Let's see more humans treating those skinnies like the scum they are, and more elves treating roundears like the idiots they are! Breeds, they're worthless!
Quote from: Riev on February 21, 2009, 03:58:41 PM
Seriously. Steal from me. I ENCOURAGE you to steal from players. You probably won't die.
Yes, you probably will.
I encourage more of the gemmed to hang out in the seedy merc bars. Because I think reverse psychology might work where common sense has failed.
Quote from: Niamh on February 22, 2009, 08:09:32 AM
More racism! Let's see more humans treating those skinnies like the scum they are, and more elves treating roundears like the idiots they are! Breeds, they're worthless!
I've had people seriously try to get my character (and others around them) killed for harmlessly insulting a non-affiliated half-breed.
WTFsauce, indeed.
I will continue gleefully treating half-elves like the pieces of shit they are, don't you worry.
More hatred that doesn't begin with brutal violence. Ending with brutal violence is fine, but when your response to someone calling you a kankfucker is to kill them...?
Less trigger-happy encounters between players. Too many times already have I seen players do the "enter room;look man;kill man" or "man enters room;cast spell man" or "man enters room;spamwalk away" schtick.
Quote from: number13 on February 22, 2009, 08:11:13 AM
I encourage more of the gemmed to hang out in the seedy merc bars. Because I think reverse psychology might work where common sense has failed.
a fella's bar of choice should be based on his gear, i think. Not all gemmers are silk coated pansies.
Quote from: Synthesis on February 22, 2009, 01:09:03 AM
Quote from: Riev on February 21, 2009, 03:58:41 PM
Quote from: Ourla on February 21, 2009, 03:49:37 PM
More awesome criminals, plz.
More criminal masterminds, that wear silks and try to be high society, but run everything in the 'rinth or UT. A good thief will steal your favorite sword, and then meet you at the bar without a second thought.
A bad thief will attack and backstab only NPCs, and never move from the 'rinth or UT until they are twinked out.
Seriously. Steal from me. I ENCOURAGE you to steal from players. You probably won't die.
Riiiiiight. Try playing a thief that does that sometime, and let me know how it turns out for you. ::)
I'd like to encourage your average thuggish criminals to be a hell of a lot smarter, so my criminal masterminds don't end up having to take care of everything themselves, because all their newb lackeys got wtfpwned by the crime code.
Steal from players and prepare to get hunted 90% of the time.
Or murdered on the spot. Even if you offer yourself in service/beg/plead etc.
That other 10% where you aren't marked for death makes it pretty worth it though.
I'd like to encourage the imms.
Also.
I would further like to encourage people not to over react in game. Don't be too attached to your items.
Less spending time in your private rooms paired up or trying to find ways to get that other person to spend hours with you alone in that private room and
more time spent trying to come up with plots and ideas that would get you and others involved with more than one on one private 'roleplaying' sessions.
More kudos. Nothing encourages someone like direct, personal feedback. ;)
^ Yes. A few kudos I got made the difference between quitting and staying, at one point.
I really have so many I keep meaning to write and never got around to... sigh. I should do that soon.
More realistic encounters between mundanes and magickers; don't just simply cast upon your prey, nor should the mundane just up and run away when some big badass is putting on a display of ICly unknown talent that could very well melt away the skin of your body to leave you with bones. Just because YOU, the PLAYER, knows what element a character is, how does your piddly PC know that this 'magicker' doesn't have the spell of uber flesh searing sight? Put some effort into your roleplay and maybe the encounters would go a bit more interesting.
Quote from: Wyx on February 22, 2009, 02:36:23 PM
Less trigger-happy encounters between players. Too many times already have I seen players do the "enter room;look man;kill man" or "man enters room;cast spell man" or "man enters room;spamwalk away" schtick.
On that note, if you meet someone unknown in the wilderness, it's great manners to do like so from an adjacent square:
> shout Halloo th' camp. A'right to ride on up?
You hear a female voice from the south shout, in sirihish:
"Nice an' slow-- c'mon in."
Bad a bad way to begin a raid, of course, too.
Quote from: Delstro on February 22, 2009, 05:03:15 PMI would further like to encourage people not to over react in game. Don't be too attached to your items characters.
Fixed.
I'd like to encourage people to remember their character's place.
It kinda boggles me how often I run into half-elf/gemmer/mutant/rinthi PCs who consistently act surprised and bewildered when they encounter prejudice from other PCs.
Hurt? Sure. Insulted? Sure. Angry? Awesome.
But acting shocked and appalled? Not so much.
That said, I'd like to encourage people to make more mutants. I love playing them. I love interacting with them. Just don't act surprised when the guy at the bar calls you a weirdo for having tentacles on your head.
Quote from: Fathi on February 23, 2009, 01:32:25 AM
I'd like to encourage people to remember their character's place.
It kinda boggles me how often I run into half-elf/gemmer/mutant/rinthi PCs who consistently act surprised and bewildered when they encounter prejudice from other PCs.
Hurt? Sure. Insulted? Sure. Angry? Awesome.
But acting shocked and appalled? Not so much.
That said, I'd like to encourage people to make more mutants. I love playing them. I love interacting with them. Just don't act surprised when the guy at the bar calls you a weirdo for having tentacles on your head.
Ironically, I find that the newbies are much more accepting of prejudice from other PCs. It's the pros (those guys who can type out a long emoted conversation in half a sec) that seem to expect some love and defend other lower society members. But then again, those who are politically powerful (long-lived gemmers, rinthi breed sergeants) tend to get some backup and that's understandable.
Quote from: Malken on February 22, 2009, 05:36:09 PM
Less spending time in your private rooms paired up or trying to find ways to get that other person to spend hours with you alone in that private room and
more time spent trying to come up with plots and ideas that would get you and others involved with more than one on one private 'roleplaying' sessions.
This. Definitely this.
But in general, I'd like to see leaders trying to get more people involved if only in a small way, and follower-types trying to get involved with leaders.
I've said it many times before, but...
I'd like to encourage people to play their Allanaki mages for a while before getting gemmed. Like for a month or two. Develop the character's personality. Make friends and lovers, then traumatize them horribly when you show up one day wearing a gem.
The time I did that myself is still one of my top 5 favorite Armageddon events, rivaling HRPTs.
Yeh ... it's not a crime to get discovered, when you don't know yourself. It's a crime to know what you are and not do anything about it.
I'd encourage more people to break away from preoccupation with coded/material awesomeness.
I'd like to encourage people to play classes that discourage the -need- for guild sniffing.
So that, if you are looking for work as a hunter, you actually HAVE hunter-ish skills, instead of being a secret magicker who has archer as a sub-guild.
Or if you are looking for work in a GMH and know, in advance, that the boss is hoping to groom someone to learn several crafts, that you actually pick the merchant class, or at -least- pick a class that branches one kind of craft, and pick a different craft for a subguild.
Y'know. So that people who actually -need- their employees to be capable of doing specific things, won't have to pull teeth to find out if you can do those specific things or not.
I think both sides have an arguement. But I would have no problem asking anyone if they had a specific skillset. Lying about it is up to them. If I find out they're worthless at the assigned job, I have no problem with having a chat with them about it.
I once played a magicker once who got tossed in jail and then confessed to a minor theft. Everyone had me pegged as a thief instead of a 'gicker which was a lot of fun.
Back on topic:
I would like people to take the game world into account a bit more.
Things like putting waterskins on mounts before you enter the east gate of 'nak really don't make any sense. If they're going to search you, they'll probably look at your inix too.
Another example think would be casting near my mount. I figure leaping bolts of lightning, sudden bouts of darkness and loud whooshing noises would spook just about anything. This is something that only occured to me near the end of my last magicker's life.
...more players to be respectful of the opinions of others without resorting to insults of their intelligence (directly or subtly) and not to dive right into making disagreements personal attacks on the other -human being-.
Just because someone does not see things the same way as you do, it does not mean they are any less intelligent than you and that you are justified in treating them as anything less than your fellow human being.
...the staff to outright ban those who are openly attacking others on the GDB, being insulting to them openly and warn those who are doing it subtly, resulting in a ban if they do not cease.
I'm really edging the point where I'm about to leave the GDB at least, if not the game completely because of a few people who have no restraint or respect for others.
...more people not to hold IC occurances against -the player- of a character because they immediately jump to the conclusion (99% of the time false) that the person is OOCly being a jerk (or a twink, or powergamer, or holding an OOC grudge) and that their character's actions are not IC.
Being a prick to other characters ICly, is fine. Being a prick to your fellow players, is not.
I'd like to encourage people to accept new players in the game more willingly.
Yes it's sometimes irritating when new players come around all 'ooc yo dude wtf is up!!', but it's really refreshing and incredibly vital that experienced players take newer players aside to teach them the general syntax and "do's and don'ts".
Mass kudos to players I've seen doing this. You deserve a hearty pat on the back. Newbies are the lifeblood of Armageddon. Embrace them lovingly before you leave their dead, bootless corpse in an alleyway. ;)
Quote from: Delstro on February 22, 2009, 05:03:15 PM
I would further like to encourage people not to over react in game. Don't be too attached to your items.
Remember: You character lives in a world where money is tight for most and some people will kill for the clothes off your back.
I would like to encourage people to let their characters make bad decisions. Yes, there is often a price to pay, but... more often than not it leads to something fun, unexpected and often dramatic. If it's IC, if it's not something utterly retarded - let it happen, let the chips fall where they may and enjoy the beautiful fallout that results.
I'd like to encourage people to keep General Discussion threads about the game, and to leave OOC joke topics in the OOC forum.
If my latent gemmer got guild sniffed, it didn't affect his life all that much. He got both an Atrium sponsorship and a cushy job as a Kadius merchant.
I'd like to encourage more people who know their place in life.
Nobles are nobles and they are your betters.
Militia can kill you on a whim.
Templars eat your soul.
You should really just not catch their attention, and play with your caste.
What if I reworded things in an "I'd like to encourage people to..."?
I'd like to encourage people to not treat someone as a pickpocket/burglar/assassin only because you suspect they are coded guild_pickpocket/guild_burglar/guild_assassin.
;)
Quote from: rishenko on February 24, 2009, 12:36:26 AM
I would like to encourage people to let their characters make bad decisions. Yes, there is often a price to pay, but... more often than not it leads to something fun, unexpected and often dramatic. If it's IC, if it's not something utterly retarded - let it happen, let the chips fall where they may and enjoy the beautiful fallout that results.
This was kind of in my vein of WANTING people to steal from PCs, and for PCs to try and leave themselves open for being stolen from.
Apparently, people dislike the idea of the possibility of getting caught, because there are so many people out there who decide to just say "Okay, I'll just kill you to make myself feel better."
I could -seriously- use a thief in my pocket. Or, better, someone that CONSTANTLY makes bad decisions so that they can be punished and never learn. Fun for them? Possibly. Fun for other PCs involved? Immsenely.
I would like to encourage people to enjoy and take advantage of their surroundings.
In the cities, you have crowded streets with hawkers and citizens milling about, selling their wares and buying others, carting supplies, resources and chasing after kids. Hunters ride down the streets atop their mounts, templars stare defiantly over the crowd, and crafters sit on rugs and whittle away at their wood, bone, what have you.
In the wild you have winds blowing sands in sprays off the tops of dunes, massive walls of storms in the distance, the quiet skitter of a lizard through a bush or scrub. Rocks falling off the sides of canyons with eerie timing, the gesra grass blows in ripples to a flowing breeze.
You have all of this at your disposal. Walking down a street crowded with thronging people frustrated and trying to get to their destination with you shouldering roughly through is far more fun for me to to play with and interact through than say... e, e, e, e, e, e (the streets are empty but for three NPCs every four rooms) and growing bored because there's nobody codedly on the road to entertain you.
I'd like to encourage people to stay on topic on GDB threads.
I'm not very vocal on the GDB, but I'll throw my two cents out there.
I'd like to encourage players to be more on-topic on the discussion boards.
I'd like to encourage players to be more chillaxed in their attitudes towards other players.
I'd like to encourage players to STOP DISSEMINATING IC INFORMATION OOC in general.
I'd like to encourage everyone to branch out, and try new things, new clans, and new roles as Arm 1 is gonna end someday soon.
Lastly, I'd like to encourage the staff to eat more brainz. Brainz are the cornerstone of a balanced diet, after all.
I split the derailing part of this topic into another thread. Please stay on topic, which means posting things you'd like to encourage, rather than picking at everyone else's things they'd like to encourage.
I'd like to encourage people to create new threads on their own when they are changing topic, instead of waiting for staff to do it for them.
I'd like to encourage players not to talk to other players OOCly. Generally, it only leads to things that are bad for the game. In my experience, even if you want to avoid "it" like the plague, something inevitably comes along to toe the line and once you give an inch they will always want a mile.
Quote from: Conspiracy Theory on February 25, 2009, 01:13:56 PM
I'd like to encourage players not to talk to other players OOCly. Generally, it only leads to things that are bad for the game. In my experience, even if you want to avoid "it" like the plague, something inevitably comes along to toe the line and once you give an inch they will always want a mile.
Seriously. I don't know how many one-sided stories I've heard in the past, people telling me how pure evil some Staff and players are, when -I- know they are wrong because I was part of what they're telling me about and what they heard is so wrong in so many ways it's
not even funny. Each time I hear a disgruntled player telling me something they heard from someone else and I know they are wrong, because I was there, or part of it, it makes me trust the Staff over the players a lot more.
STOP LISTENING TO OOC GOSSIPS, STOP GOSSIPING AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GET THE HELL OUT OF THAT AIM CHAT BLAST WHATEVER THINGIE I KEEP HEARING ABOUT LATELY.
I'd like to encourage people to cool down about the GDB and Armageddon in general.
A lot of folks seem to take the game way, waaaaaay too personally.
I think it's healthy to take a step back every so often and ask yourself if all the rage is really worth it. Kthx.
Quote from: Fathi on February 26, 2009, 03:33:33 AM
I'd like to encourage people to cool down about the GDB and Armageddon in general.
A lot of folks seem to take the game way, waaaaaay too personally.
I think it's healthy to take a step back every so often and ask yourself if all the rage is really worth it. Kthx.
NONSENSE.
otherwise we'd all play fucking nethack or something easier.
I love nethack.
I encourage everyone to play nethack.
I'd like to encourage n00by lurve.
Had people not helped me out when I joined, I wouldn't be here. (hopefully that doesn't cause any regrets for those that helped me ;D)
I would like to encourage people to play Joe and Jane average.
To not be focused on earning sids, collecting tons of "stuff" and just live our their meager commoner lives.
I'd like to encourage people to play the fool sometimes. Yes, you are a PC, and for some hidden reason, are better than most NPCs and vNPCs in the area. However, maybe you are a TWAT at dancing. Emote it out.
Maybe you aren't great at hitting on people. Trip over your words.
Better, you aren't great at sex. Mudsex someone and emote simply laying there, making gutteral and unconvincing moans.
I bet there are a TON of RL relationships where one person is a dead fuck. BE THAT PERSON.
I'd like to encourage people to play whatever type of character that makes them the most excited about Zalanthas and the most immersed in its culture and the most like making that world come alive for other players.
I'd like to encourage that more arm players play NETHACK~! And not that new fangled one with pictures. If I'm not an @ symbol, there's no point.
I'd also like to encourage arm players to stop being griefing jackasses to each other. This is a cooperative game and we're community.
I'd like to encourage people giving me all your monies!
Just kidding.
I would really like to see people giving each other high-fives. That would make my week.
I'd like to encourage people to stop playing like they think they are really alone in a room, when they think they are, because chances are, you aren't.
You are never alone, you are always being watched.
Please don't use "you", "your", please don't go in long OOC conversations.. And what makes me go ??? the most is when two people suddenly go quiet, for a long period of time, in sync,
and without any warning whatsoever OOCly.
Oh, and using your character's name in an emote is also a big no-no.
I'd like to encourage everyone to think really hard and decide who their favorite PC to role play with is.
Now send a Kudos to that person and make their day.
Quote from: Malken on February 26, 2009, 11:34:19 PMPlease don't use "you", "your", please don't go in long OOC conversations.. And what makes me go ??? the most is when two people suddenly go quiet, for a long period of time, in sync,
and without any warning whatsoever OOCly.
Man, on that note, I'd like to encourage people to sometimes go with their small ooc mistakes without going 'ooc sorry, misdirect' or whatever. Of course, if it's like a -huge- misdirect, like you accidentally kick a templar in the groin instead of the drunk Bynner you were brawling, that's fine.
Sometimes I just don't understand why an OOC channel is necessary, unless there's new players around, or someone's joining a clan.
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Sometimes I just don't understand why an OOC channel is necessary, unless there's new players around, or someone's joining a clan.
It's mostly for this.
I'd like to encourage people to relax about the game. This means eschewing attachment to coded power, being more tolerant of other players' play-style... and most importantly, remembering that the game is there for
you. So many times I see people get freaked out (and I'm one of them, alot of the time) that their character isn't "good enough" for any Imms who might happen by. At the slightest hint of admin interaction, they freeze, and it can take alot of the fun out of the game. Play your character the way you want to, and confidently, and they'll be convincing.
I'd like to encourage everyone to bring their OOC gossip to me. :( No one ever shares juicy sexy IC info with me.
I'd also like to see more kudos in my inbox. -I- know how awesome and great of an RPer I really am. Do you how much of a pleasure it is to play with me? If so, tell me.
On a serious note, I encourage everyone to not let the GDB ruin the game. It's all in fun, even if it gets a little hateful. But in all honesty, I don't care what any of my fellow players say OOCly. I don't read the GDB or play the game because it's OOCly satisfying. I do it because of the GAME itself stomping so much ass. If I thought, for a single moment, that the GDB might ruin my enjoyment of the game itself, I would swith my homepage to tubgirl and never return to these hallowed halls.
Quote from: Rhyden on February 27, 2009, 12:29:51 AM
Sometimes I just don't understand why an OOC channel is necessary, unless there's new players around, or someone's joining a clan.
Or for saying that you'll be afk for a second or such, though the gone command works too. OOC is a bit more noticable and I've seen people not notice 'gones'.
Quote from: Rhyden on February 27, 2009, 12:29:51 AM
Sometimes I just don't understand why an OOC channel is necessary, unless there's new players around, or someone's joining a clan.
> The clueless newb digs around in his pockets, pulling out some gold.
> You say, out of character:
"'sid, not gold, man."
Quote from: staggerlee on February 26, 2009, 01:26:21 PM
I love nethack.
I encourage everyone to play nethack.
ADOM pwns Nutsack.
I'd like to encourage kudos for sponsored roles. Sponsored pc's are pc's too. :(
Quote from: Synthesis on February 27, 2009, 05:26:00 PM
Quote from: Rhyden on February 27, 2009, 12:29:51 AM
Sometimes I just don't understand why an OOC channel is necessary, unless there's new players around, or someone's joining a clan.
> The clueless newb digs around in his pockets, pulling out some gold.
> You say, out of character:
"'sid, not gold, man."
Naturally, helping newbs out is fine.
It's the...
The tall, muscular man glances at the red-haired woman and coughs.
The tall, muscular man says, ooc:
"sorry misdir, wrong target."
The tall, muscular man glances at the blue-haired woman and coughs.Sorry, but the needless OOC irks me. I think it should be a very last resort, when not helping new players, or joining a clan.
Quote from: Rhyden on February 28, 2009, 12:19:34 AM
Quote from: Synthesis on February 27, 2009, 05:26:00 PM
Quote from: Rhyden on February 27, 2009, 12:29:51 AM
Sometimes I just don't understand why an OOC channel is necessary, unless there's new players around, or someone's joining a clan.
> The clueless newb digs around in his pockets, pulling out some gold.
> You say, out of character:
"'sid, not gold, man."
Naturally, helping newbs out is fine.
It's the...
The tall, muscular man glances at the red-haired woman and coughs.
The tall, muscular man says, ooc:
"sorry misdir, wrong target."
The tall, muscular man glances at the blue-haired woman and coughs.
Sorry, but the needless OOC irks me. I think it should be a very last resort, when not helping new players, or joining a clan.
I don't think it's needless. It helps to make confusing mistakes not confusing.
I think that the the
the guy laguhs loudly.
the guy says OOC,
"Sorry, I meant to say "laughs", not "laguhs".
is a little needless. But then again, it doesn't ruin the entire game for me or make me feel like punching babies when it happens.
Typically when I use the OOC command, it's to explain something to an obviously new player (like why they should not have put their Tuluki star on their PC's face), or to set up a "next time to meet online" RL time with a player so that a plot can get pushed forward without the weeks and weeks of "waiting to bump into them by chance" delay.
In both situations though, I think it's only polite to move off into a room where other people are not currently trying to RP.
Quote from: Yam on February 28, 2009, 01:16:13 AM
I don't think it's needless. It helps to make confusing mistakes not confusing.
You're right. In certain situations, it makes mistakes made less confusing. In other situations, I find it jarring. Like typos. I don't care if you spell mask 'msak' and go ooc: "Oh shit, sorry, I meant mask!" (not that anyone does this). We get it. What I'm trying to say is the OOC command doesn't have to be used for -every- mistake. That's all. Maybe I should be posting this in the 'Idle Complaints' thread. :(
I'd like to encourage more tribals. There's never enough of you guys. Good tribals that is.
I'd like to encourage more people to send kudos for PCs that their PC hates, not just for PCs that their PC likes. Having a good time RPing with someone doesn't have to necessarily come from a good relationship with that PC. It can come out of stupidity, scorn, fighting, treachery, betrayal, abuse, deception, thievery, insults, or even death. Zalanthas is a brutal, harsh world, so send some love for those who make it so!
I'd like to encourage folks to enjoy taking their time. Sometimes I get the sense that everyone's in a damn hurry to... do something. I'm not sure what, exactly, that is, since all we're doing is playing out people's lives, which are finite, short things.
The one that kills me is interpersonal relationships. If I'm not your BFF or lover the first time we meet, it doesn't mean I don't like playing with you. :( I'm probably trying to draw something out, so that we have something to talk about tomorrow... and the day after... and the week after... I want a relationship to last, and I don't want to let it to get boring, a la the old married couple who've seen each other every day for thirty years and don't have anything new to talk about.
Quote from: Rairen on March 04, 2009, 10:16:09 AM
The one that kills me is interpersonal relationships. If I'm not your BFF or lover the first time we meet, it doesn't mean I don't like playing with you. :( I'm probably trying to draw something out, so that we have something to talk about tomorrow... and the day after... and the week after... I want a relationship to last, and I don't want to let it to get boring, a la the old married couple who've seen each other every day for thirty years and don't have anything new to talk about.
This. I'm sorry, I really hate taking mates. But I'm so nice, that I end up taking mates anyways 'cause they're just so CUTE and wanting to be with only me.... Awwww. ~pats the other characters~
I'd like to encourage each player to play whatever the hell they want to play, so long as its within the documentation's boundaries. And hey, while your at it, don't gripe about other players exploring roles you don't personally enjoy. Trust the staff to do their job, and simply worry about your own piece of the pie. Or 2.arm, you know, stuff that is general, not specific.
More sleeping as well. Pick a number of IC days to actually get tired. I usually get 'tired' after about three days and emote getting tired and going to sleep someplace. It's always fun to find sleeping people.
after 3 IC days i usually quit because i've been on for 4 and a half fucking hours.
Quote from: Chettaman on March 06, 2009, 05:07:36 AM
More sleeping as well. Pick a number of IC days to actually get tired. I usually get 'tired' after about three days and emote getting tired and going to sleep someplace. It's always fun to find sleeping people.
One Zalanthan day is approximately 0.525 RL days. That means, at normal sleep rates, Zalanthans would spend about two-thirds of every other day asleep (assuming 8 hours out of 24 is sleep-time).
So when you've been playing for 4.5 hours solid, your character's been awake about thirty-six subjective hours.
This is, frankly, what my emoting starts to look like anyway.
Morrolan (Agent beat me to it)
I just imagined that the inhabitants of Zanthalas have become accustomed to little amounts of sleep.
he he
Quote from: Chettaman on March 06, 2009, 05:07:36 AM
More sleeping as well. Pick a number of IC days to actually get tired. I usually get 'tired' after about three days and emote getting tired and going to sleep someplace. It's always fun to find sleeping people.
This is something at least a couple staff members would like to see more of as well. I recently awarded a karma point to a player who regularly sleeps and who portrays believable sleep-deprivation when they have not slept for two Zdays. Beautiful stuff.
Quote from: Chettaman on March 06, 2009, 05:07:36 AM
More sleeping as well. Pick a number of IC days to actually get tired. I usually get 'tired' after about three days and emote getting tired and going to sleep someplace. It's always fun to find sleeping people.
I MIGHT go to sleep, if its late Dusk or Late at Night and there isn't much going on. Rather than walking 4000 rooms to the nearest bar, I might just plop down and go to sleep.
Because it sure fucks with the PCs that try to contact you. Sometimes they don't understand why you were unconscious, and ask if you are okay. =)
I'd like to encourage characters to have habits and hobbies just for the sake of it. Maybe your (non-dwarf) character loves fast mounts and will prefer a strong erdlu to a beetle. Or your badass warrior-soldier is a shopaholic and spends all of her pay on a pretty jozhal-hide bag, some hair braids, tattoos, etc. Or have a character who's addicted to tavern-sitting just the way that some people are addicted to Facebook/IRC.
Not all obsessions have to be spice or alcohol or dwarf foci.
Quote from: Shalooonsh on March 09, 2009, 10:34:28 AM
This is something at least a couple staff members would like to see more of as well. I recently awarded a karma point to a player who regularly sleeps and who portrays believable sleep-deprivation when they have not slept for two Zdays. Beautiful stuff.
But please, good folks, know that some of us are knowingly trading off this bit of realism for the sake of making the fullest use of meager playing time. :-\
There is always a gap between the RL time constraint and actual IG time, so I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that most characters sleep in the virtual time that we don't have access to as players. If my character hangs out in a tavern between dusk and dawn, I should be able to roleplay having crashed in the tavern's commons for a bit without having to just dump the people I'm roleplaying with and actually do so. And if a character ICly called me out for "not getting enough sleep," I would find that jarring, placing IC stock on something that is limited by OOC realities.
Quote from: brytta.leofa on March 16, 2009, 09:44:35 AM
Quote from: Shalooonsh on March 09, 2009, 10:34:28 AM
This is something at least a couple staff members would like to see more of as well. I recently awarded a karma point to a player who regularly sleeps and who portrays believable sleep-deprivation when they have not slept for two Zdays. Beautiful stuff.
But please, good folks, know that some of us are knowingly trading off this bit of realism for the sake of making the fullest use of meager playing time. :-\
Exactly this. Logging in to effectively stay motionless and idle is crossing the line into absurdity. This is a game!! What will be next? Will our characters have to take a crap every six hours and a piss every three? Will they have to start brushing their teeth every dawn and stand in line to use a washbucket? Will not simulating a hair cut once a month start being considered bad form?
Please stop trying to raise the bar where it doesn't make sense. Zalanthas has a nine-hour day, only two of which are dark, and even then only if the moons aren't in the sky which they mostly are. Obviously, expecting people to sleep according to an Earthly schedule is out of the question!
Quote from: Salt Merchant on March 16, 2009, 06:09:03 PM
Quote from: brytta.leofa on March 16, 2009, 09:44:35 AM
Quote from: Shalooonsh on March 09, 2009, 10:34:28 AM
This is something at least a couple staff members would like to see more of as well. I recently awarded a karma point to a player who regularly sleeps and who portrays believable sleep-deprivation when they have not slept for two Zdays. Beautiful stuff.
But please, good folks, know that some of us are knowingly trading off this bit of realism for the sake of making the fullest use of meager playing time. :-\
Exactly this. Logging in to effectively stay motionless and idle is crossing the line into absurdity. This is a game!! What will be next? Will our characters have to take a crap every six hours and a piss every three? Will they have to start brushing their teeth every dawn and stand in line to use a washbucket? Will not simulating a hair cut once a month start being considered bad form?
Please stop trying to raise the bar where it doesn't make sense. Zalanthas has a nine-hour day, only two of which are dark, and even then only if the moons aren't in the sky which they mostly are. Obviously, expecting people to sleep according to an Earthly schedule is out of the question!
I don't understand.
Someone said that it was kind of cool and fleshed out the game when people rp details of their character's life like sleeping.
Nobody said you'll be rounded up and shot for not doing it.
I don't understand why everything has to be such a big drama fest around here.
Regarding sleeping:
This has actually been one of my favorite things to do lately in game. Why? Because the think command lets your character dream! I always have a blast when I'm asleep because I can make my character dream all sorts of crazy stuff, and react to it in her sleep, then tell all of her friends about this scary/weird/awesome dream that she had. Then again, I have a good deal of time to play, but sleeping is far from staying motionless and idling.
Quote from: Aesuna on March 18, 2009, 04:27:03 AM
Regarding sleeping:
This has actually been one of my favorite things to do lately in game. Why? Because the think command lets your character dream! I always have a blast when I'm asleep because I can make my character dream all sorts of crazy stuff, and react to it in her sleep, then tell all of her friends about this scary/weird/awesome dream that she had. Then again, I have a good deal of time to play, but sleeping is far from staying motionless and idling.
This. Dreams are awesome. Pwns solo RP anytime.
Sleeping is like a death sentence, risking the loss of your character's pants, getting an instant critical hit, etc. I've even had an imm mention to me that it's
stupid not a good idea to sleep in public. Anyone who'd actually sleep every day deserves a karma point, and it's great because I actually stopped sleeping because it felt like such a wrong thing to do.
Added to prevent double post:
I'd like to encourage you guys to read up on body language. Makes for some awesome emoting. Also, know your character's eq list, some armor will creak or snap, certain type of clothes hinder movement/visibility and it's great to see someone taking that to account.
And use hemotes liberally with certain types of body language. E.g. smiling, but hemoting that your eyes are glaring towards ~person; telling someone a lie (with a straight face), then hemoting that you're spending a lot of effort to keep that straight face.
I'd like to encourage the formatting to how dreams come out be changed...
It's WAY awkward.
Brandon
Quote from: FuSoYa on March 18, 2009, 01:05:55 PM
I'd like to encourage the formatting to how dreams come out be changed...
It's WAY awkward.
Brandon
Examples?
I actually rather like the open-ended format. Can pull off first- and third- person dreams with equal aplomb this way.
...other players to ignore me today. I'm feeling especially crabby.
Quote from: mansa on March 18, 2009, 01:22:56 PM
Quote from: FuSoYa on March 18, 2009, 01:05:55 PM
I'd like to encourage the formatting to how dreams come out be changed...
It's WAY awkward.
Brandon
Examples?
Just make it like feel instead of think.
Quote from: Good Gortok on March 19, 2009, 01:05:49 AM
Quote from: mansa on March 18, 2009, 01:22:56 PM
Quote from: FuSoYa on March 18, 2009, 01:05:55 PM
I'd like to encourage the formatting to how dreams come out be changed...
It's WAY awkward.
Brandon
Examples?
Just make it like feel instead of think.
Exactly.
Brandon
Dishonesty
It's nice to have friends you can know and trust, but what about those guys that will telll a lie, right to your face? Oh yeah... I'm sayin' I wanna get real pissed off when I give the most oustanding, honest, couragous man who just saved me from getting my ass kicked in a bar-fight, 100 coins to get me a cheap bottle of wine from said bar, and I never see him again.
I really want to see people with a total disregard for other's PC lives. Ask for a drink of water and run off with all of it. Ask for something to eat and run off with it. Ask to see something you're about to buy and run off with it. Suprise me. ;)
...characters to not act like tards.
You're in a pinch. You're getting your ass whipped. You're allowed to live.
Please, don't turn around and give your merciful handler more lip. If it's been established that they will whip your ass and take your life at will, why encourage them to?
I encourage more players to grovel.
I encourage more players to acquiesce.
I encourage more players to show respect, if at least only visibly. Think whatever you what behind their back, but jeez. ::)
More wound RP. Seriously. It looks like fun. Makes me wish I got badly hurt to RP stuff like that.
Also, I don't think people realize how tough Zalanthians really are. They CAN walk around after a long rest after having nearly died. It happens. So I encourage you to remember you characters can survive arrow wounds, when you might not be able to.
Quote from: tortall on March 26, 2009, 10:21:23 PM
More wound RP. Seriously. It looks like fun. Makes me wish I got badly hurt to RP stuff like that.
Also, I don't think people realize how tough Zalanthians really are. They CAN walk around after a long rest after having nearly died. It happens. So I encourage you to remember you characters can survive arrow wounds, when you might not be able to.
I actually RP'ed walking around with a broken leg once, using it as an excuse to only log on, but skip chores, and my character was denied a promotion because of it. It was fun :D And I love RP'ing getting an artery cut after a strong hit - all the blood that spills on the armor helps a lot in that too.
Quote from: Eloran on March 21, 2009, 10:41:37 PM
Please, don't turn around and give your merciful handler more lip. If it's been established that they will whip your ass and take your life at will, why encourage them to?
Amen. If Mr. Templar tells you to stop struggling, please don't be offended when further struggling gets you eaten by bugs.
Public disrespect is a crime worse than any other most people will commit.
More hemotes. Do you. You know you want to. All those little things that you do that are sooo small that you wouldn't normally emote. Make them come to life. I <3 people who hemote. You know who you are.
Quote from: tortall on March 28, 2009, 12:16:41 AM
More hemotes.
The hemote is the finest flower of character interaction...perhaps the cherry blossom. Gone so quickly, you might or might not even notice.
I love hemotes.
Morrolan
Most of the time I want to hemote, I realize the action is PROBABLY flagrant enough that it wouldn't be -that- hidden.
What are some good, casual hemotes?
Quote from: Riev on March 28, 2009, 02:00:47 AM
What are some good, casual hemotes?
Farting. Readjusting yourself. Looking at boobs, a groin or some other object of interest without want it to be too obvious.
Quote from: Riev on March 28, 2009, 02:00:47 AM
Most of the time I want to hemote, I realize the action is PROBABLY flagrant enough that it wouldn't be -that- hidden.
What are some good, casual hemotes?
Scratching. Sniffing. Picking the nose. Picking the ear. Eating the said pickings.
Hemotes are great for Zalanthan prejudice, too.
>stand
>tell annoying.scary.gemmer Yeah, maybe I'll see you around.
>think Yeah, right. (OR) >think Tek's balls, he scares the shit out of me!
>hemote shakes his head as he leaves the tavern. (OR) >hemote scurries out of the tavern a little hastily.
>s
Quote from: Riev on March 28, 2009, 02:00:47 AM
What are some good, casual hemotes?
Body language is lovely.
>feel annoyed
>:smiles at ~lizzie.
>phemote eyes glare at ~lizzie as ^me lips pull into a fake smile.
>feel sad
>phemote eyes moisten as #me tells his tale.
>feel disgusted
>hemote wrinkles ^me nose as #me eyes the vomit on the ground.
>think Ooh.. that guy left his coins on his lap.
>phemote fingers wrap around ~mug excitedly.
Etc, anything light. Do it whenever your thinking or feeling.
I'd like to encourage people to give the story priority above their own character's success in it.
I know Smuz meant:
>:smiles at ~character.
>phemote eyes glare at ~character as his lips pull a fake smile.
and not
>:smiles at you.
>phemote eyes glare at you as his lips pull a fake smile.
Because everyone knows it's really REALLY bad form to use "you" because then, everyone in the room, seen, unseen, known, and unknown, thinks you are doing something to them.
Remember, if I'm hiding in your apartment while you are mudsexing your girlfriend, and I see:
The tall, muscular man grinds his penis against you.
I am going to pull out my blade and cut your character's penis off.
Lol, I was being lazy. On the GDB. Fixed. Somehow, I knew at the back of my head someone would jump on that :P Yes, I messed up the #me part too, but it should echo correctly to others regardless of whether I forgot my character's gender.
Oh I never cared about the whole "me" stuff. I don't ever use it. I figure, the only one who's gonna see it wrong, is me. And I already see it wrong because of the whole:
The Lizzified PC looks at your gloves.
When the Lizzified PC is me. It should be
You look at your gloves.
But we get half first person half third. So who cares if you don't use #me and use "his" instead? You're the only one who will notice :)
Quote from: Riev on March 28, 2009, 02:00:47 AM
Most of the time I want to hemote, I realize the action is PROBABLY flagrant enough that it wouldn't be -that- hidden.
What are some good, casual hemotes?
I like to use hemotes when my characters lie. Or when they're trying to hide their true feelings about stuff.
For example...
emote sitting at ~table, her hands folded primly in her lap, @ watches the discussion between ~man and ~woman with casual interest
hemote casts a desperate glance toward the door
think If I'm stuck in here with these morons for one more hour, I'm going to 'tokshit and stab somebody.
emote as ~sergeant walks in, @ taps his hand to his chest in a salute
phemote eyes never actually leave ~buxom during the saluting process
tell recruit (lifting a staying hand, her tone easy and confident) Relax, there. You keep an eye on the mounts while I poke my head in--I'm sure there's nothin' to worry about.
hemote casts a single, apprehensive glance back and forth between ~recruit and the mouth of the cave.
More use of clan rumor boards. I feel like an arrogant jerk for posting on rumor threads. Cause nobody else does. So everyone else should too! Seriously, its important to know what your PC should ICly know, even if you've been taking a bit of a break. Nobody wants to log on to find that their city-state has been conquered for months.
Quote from: jcljules on March 28, 2009, 07:47:59 PM
More use of clan rumor boards. I feel like an arrogant jerk for posting on rumor threads. Cause nobody else does. So everyone else should too! Seriously, its important to know what your PC should ICly know, even if you've been taking a bit of a break. Nobody wants to log on to find that their city-state has been conquered for months.
Lol, at one time I was wondering why I couldn't find any clan members in the 2 straight RL days I was logging in. So did a post on the clan forum, and a teammate was like "Oh, we moved to Allanak a week ago." Then I ragequitted the clan.
Yeah, use IC boards for all important events, like when you're transferring half/all of the clan, major events, deaths of notable clan members, etc.
Does sneak effect the 'strength' of hemotes?
I won't tell you how... but I seem to get away with a particular action. ALOT. ;D
I would like to encourage the creation of more "grimy" PCs.
It seems like at least in one part of the world, everyone is a well-dressed, well-mannered, Aide to someone, or a bard, or a merchant, or a beautiful friendly vagabond, living well and friends with everyone.
I miss the days, before Tuluk being rebuilt, where rough-and-tumble was the standard. Raiders were everywhere, dead-bodies dotted the wilderness between reboots. Not to say they had to be ugly and rude, but the no-nonsense characters that'd slit a man's throat for taking the last swig of ale at a party.
The game just seems alot less dangerous.
One rude PC, who is realistically portraying a character at wit's end in a desert-hell world, is ostracized by the very clique-ish pbase. Its just not the same anymore. And now Arm 2.0 is supposed to be even more hospitable?
Quote from: JenredI would like to encourage the creation of more "grimy" PCs.
It seems like at least in one part of the world, everyone is a well-dressed, well-mannered, Aide to someone, or a bard, or a merchant, or a beautiful friendly vagabond, living well and friends with everyone.
I miss the days, before Tuluk being rebuilt, where rough-and-tumble was the standard. Raiders were everywhere, dead-bodies dotted the wilderness between reboots. Not to say they had to be ugly and rude, but the no-nonsense characters that'd slit a man's throat for taking the last swig of ale at a party.
The game just seems alot less dangerous.
One rude PC, who is realistically portraying a character at wit's end in a desert-hell world, is ostracized by the very clique-ish pbase. Its just not the same anymore. And now Arm 2.0 is supposed to be even more hospitable?
I'd like to encourage less IC prejudice against grime and filth. You're in Zalanthas, and you see this every day, unless you're a very sheltered noble or something. Make sure your character has an IC reason before ostracizing someone for appearing dirty or nasty. There are plenty of IC reasons, but I see people bringing OOC real-world prejudices to bear instead a lot.
I'd like to encourage people to jump to less conclusions RP-wise when the code tells you a certain thing. For example, equipment with the "smelly" tag is smelly. It is not necessarily covered in shit.
Oh, wait, never mind, I was stoned. Wrong game.
I'd like to see people more inclined to RP losing a little bit. Being embarassed, losing a fight, being afraid... My PCs have beaten the shit out of people in barfights only to have their opponents act as if nothing has happened. You should be physically in pain, and a bit humbled too. But no, its always "I'll get you next time, buddy!" while smirking at you through the blood.
Quote from: el_cid on April 05, 2009, 06:27:48 PM
I'd like to see people more inclined to RP losing a little bit. Being embarassed, losing a fight, being afraid... My PCs have beaten the shit out of people in barfights only to have their opponents act as if nothing has happened. You should be physically in pain, and a bit humbled too. But no, its always "I'll get you next time, buddy!" while smirking at you through the blood.
I enjoy playing the loser, but frankly, it can be a bit tiring sometimes. I see your point, though, and agree.
More average. plain, and ugly PCs. They really add to the gritty, dirty, harsh feel of the environment, and reflect just how hard life on Zalanthas is.
People to REALLY play bards. Like, sing. Play. Dance. Perform. Do SOMETHING. I haven't seen more than one or two that really seem to be trying in a while.
Quote from: Niamh on April 05, 2009, 08:09:15 PM
More average. plain, and ugly PCs. They really add to the gritty, dirty, harsh feel of the environment, and reflect just how hard life on Zalanthas is.
I LOVE ugly PCs.
Brandon
People to use the Tdesc function. I haven't seen it used once yet on a pc other than mine.
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on April 07, 2009, 03:49:41 PM
People to use the Tdesc function. I haven't seen it used once yet on a pc other than mine.
Quote from: brytta.leofa on April 07, 2009, 04:30:12 PM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on April 07, 2009, 03:49:41 PM
People to use the Tdesc function. I haven't seen it used once yet on a pc other than mine.
I often use it after a day of hunting, adding some sweat, or my hair to being messed up or matted.
Other than that, I never think of a reason to use it. People seem anxious to actually LOOK at people because of lookspam, so nobody ever notices it.
Though, I AM waiting for some gicker to tdesc a tiny demon perched on their shoulder, or something. =)
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on April 07, 2009, 03:49:41 PM
People to use the Tdesc function. I haven't seen it used once yet on a pc other than mine.
Yea... it's awesome. I've only used it really to emote a poorly, wrapped injury after playing tug o' war with a [horribly destructive beast]
Brandon
oh shit, i didn't even know tdesc went in. JOY!
I'd forgotten tdesc went in until I noticed someone using one the other day. It was wonderful to see.
I used tdesc for a while, but since nobody ever responded to it, I fell out of the habit.
Now, if tdesc were to show up in "assess -v"...
I think it should show up in the score command as well.
Quote from: tortall on April 06, 2009, 01:00:35 AM
People to REALLY play bards. Like, sing. Play. Dance. Perform. Do SOMETHING. I haven't seen more than one or two that really seem to be trying in a while.
I've seen more bards then performances.
I actually knew about tdesc, I just couldn't remember the verb. I prowled through help files and everything looking for it, hrmph. Thanks!
Holy shit! T-desc!? I just used it and it's awesome. Why isn't there an official thread? Where is Marauder Moe at? What the hell. ???
Quote from: Rhyden on April 08, 2009, 01:43:59 AM
Holy shit! T-desc!? I just used it and it's awesome. Why isn't there an official thread? Where is Marauder Moe at? What the hell. ???
http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,16591.0.html
I'd like to encourage players, especially noobs like myself to keep autologging on. Really cool things happen when you least expect it (sometimes) and when they do, you'd normally be too excited to even think about logging.
Quote from: Ourla on April 08, 2009, 02:17:41 AM
Quote from: Rhyden on April 08, 2009, 01:43:59 AM
Holy shit! T-desc!? I just used it and it's awesome. Why isn't there an official thread? Where is Marauder Moe at? What the hell. ???
http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,16591.0.html
I'd like to encourage myself to read the GDB more thoroughly.
I'd like to encourage people to start more plots and quests. If you're a successful merchant or a mob leader or a good hunter, stir up the pot some and make some trouble/fun. Player-ran RPTs are the BOMB.
I'd like to encourage people who are properly RPing to keep doing it even though nobody seems to do it, e.g. solo RP, interacting with vNPCs, chatting up or talking with/about NPCs. It always adds to the game :)
Quote from: SMuz on April 18, 2009, 06:54:18 AM
I'd like to encourage people who are properly RPing to keep doing it even though nobody seems to do it, e.g. solo RP, interacting with vNPCs, chatting up or talking with/about NPCs. It always adds to the game :)
Proper RP != solo RP and vNPC activity, etc etc etc
Quote from: Riev on April 18, 2009, 12:00:48 PM
Quote from: SMuz on April 18, 2009, 06:54:18 AM
I'd like to encourage people who are properly RPing to keep doing it even though nobody seems to do it, e.g. solo RP, interacting with vNPCs, chatting up or talking with/about NPCs. It always adds to the game :)
Proper RP != solo RP and vNPC activity, etc etc etc
All of those things are part of what makes a great rper. Not the only part, but they can significantly help get into the character and bring the world to life. I fail to see how discouraging them could help the game!
The good news is, I've seen a fair bit of those recently, sent kudos for them, and felt all warm and fuzzy about it. :D
I wasn't discouraging their use (In fact, I enjoy using 'popular' NPCs such as bartenders and waitresses), I'm just saying that calling NPC and vNPC interaction "proper" is perhaps not the right word.
Solo RP is also not "proper" RP. They are parts that make someone that may be a good RPer, better. I don't do a lot of solo RP, but I -do- make my best attempt at rounding out a character in his interactions with the world. Its an offense to say it isn't "proper" RP. /derail
I'd like to encourage more newbies to break the law. Be sneaky. Make enemies. Think that the old man at that bar over there is a pervert, and attempt to ostracize him.
Even better, someone make a gay priest of Tektolnes, and preach -against- the idea of sexualizing another mans butthole, for it is an affront to Tektolnes' butthole itself.
I'd like to encourage more skill-less characters that are based around role-play and using their wits to make money, not hard-coded skills.
Quote from: SMuz on April 18, 2009, 06:54:18 AM
I'd like to encourage people who are properly RPing to keep doing it even though nobody seems to do it, e.g. solo RP, interacting with vNPCs, chatting up or talking with/about NPCs. It always adds to the game :)
Be the change you want to see.
Quote from: Riev on April 18, 2009, 02:31:04 PM
Even better, someone make a gay priest of Tektolnes, and preach -against- the idea of sexualizing another mans butthole, for it is an affront to Tektolnes' butthole itself.
What in the fuck?
Seriously.
Quote from: Riev on April 18, 2009, 02:31:04 PM
I wasn't discouraging their use (In fact, I enjoy using 'popular' NPCs such as bartenders and waitresses), I'm just saying that calling NPC and vNPC interaction "proper" is perhaps not the right word.
Solo RP is also not "proper" RP. They are parts that make someone that may be a good RPer, better. I don't do a lot of solo RP, but I -do- make my best attempt at rounding out a character in his interactions with the world. Its an offense to say it isn't "proper" RP. /derail
Exactly. It's hard enough to solo RP as it is, so if you like doing it, and nobody else does, then by all means go ahead with it. Just because nobody else is doing it doesn't make it wrong.
Quote from: SMuz on April 18, 2009, 09:38:44 PM
Just because nobody else is doing it doesn't make it wrong.
I'm puzzled as to how anyone but the staff could possibly know how much players
solo rp. ::)
Quote from: staggerlee on April 19, 2009, 11:44:23 AM
Quote from: SMuz on April 18, 2009, 09:38:44 PM
Just because nobody else is doing it doesn't make it wrong.
I'm puzzled as to how anyone but the staff could possibly know how much players solo rp. ::)
Many classes have abilities that allow such spying.
I'd like to encourage people to write more biographies and then publish them in a year's time.
Write them with the INTENT to share with everybody... So that means write more!
Quote from: Yam on April 19, 2009, 11:51:26 AM
Quote from: staggerlee on April 19, 2009, 11:44:23 AM
Quote from: SMuz on April 18, 2009, 09:38:44 PM
Just because nobody else is doing it doesn't make it wrong.
I'm puzzled as to how anyone but the staff could possibly know how much players solo rp. ::)
Many classes have abilities that allow such spying.
Huh, and you'd never know if someone was... kind of seems like you never know when you're alone and should always be rping doesn't it? 8)
Quote from: staggerlee on April 19, 2009, 12:07:37 PM
Quote from: Yam on April 19, 2009, 11:51:26 AM
Quote from: staggerlee on April 19, 2009, 11:44:23 AM
Quote from: SMuz on April 18, 2009, 09:38:44 PM
Just because nobody else is doing it doesn't make it wrong.
I'm puzzled as to how anyone but the staff could possibly know how much players solo rp. ::)
Many classes have abilities that allow such spying.
Huh, and you'd never know if someone was... kind of seems like you never know when you're alone and should always be rping doesn't it? 8)
Generally, but I rarely ever emote when I'm alone. I have more important things to do while I spam hunt or idle.
Quote from: mansa on April 19, 2009, 11:57:01 AM
I'd like to encourage people to write more biographies and then publish them in a year's time.
Write them with the INTENT to share with everybody... So that means write more!
I have written a bio at least once every other week since I started playing this game. I believe I got my first point of karma partially for my biographical diligence, as well.
EDITED BY SHALOOONSH. Remember that what may be rumor or heresy for you may be mystery to another.
Jcljules: really sorry about this one-wasn't thinking at the time.
I try to write bios for the most important parts of a character's life, however I am quite poor at creative writing as a hobby. Sometimes I write a bio in "Thinks" like "Why can't I do that? He was such a dick." or from the third person "So CoolGuyFace joined the Byn today, after quite an arduous conversation with the burly Sergeant. CoolGuyFace was unsure whether he would be let in, but he put on his BEST cool guy face, and that was all it took."
I wouldn't mind seeing some people's old bios, but then... we have a submissions page.
I try to write biographies as often as possible. Sometimes, though, my characters get whipped away in a torrent of fast paced exciting activity and I can't keep up. Usually I swap between third and first person for the same character, depending on how I feel like telling the story. One character of mine had a deceased brother she ordered, all of her bio entries were written like letters to him.
Don't think I've ever written a bio. :-\
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on April 19, 2009, 03:19:06 PM
Don't think I've ever written a bio. :-\
I always want to, but just -never- get around to doing it. :'(
Quote from: BlackMagic0 on April 19, 2009, 03:22:05 PM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on April 19, 2009, 03:19:06 PM
Don't think I've ever written a bio. :-\
I always want to, but just -never- get around to doing it. :'(
I hate writing bios. I had a PC who lived 2 RL years and they only had four bio entries, because things happened that were just too huge -not- to write about. I've also heard of much younger PCs with 40+ bio entries.
I'm very glad they're not required. :P
don't worry about making them long. just pretend like they are your char's twitter account.
bio add fecking that hot whatsit!!
It's as good as I expected!
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Folks to use feels/thinks when your pc is lying, give those benders the advantages such talents deserve.
ps- I am not a psionic, ic info update of the week.
What.. you guys don't use thinks when your PC is lying? Hell, I use hemotes to indicate my PC is lying. But not all hemotes are when lying, so don't be accusing me of lying every time I toss out a hemote :P
If its a flagrant lie, such as "No sir, I surely didn't do it." I'll toss of a think like "He'll never know that I -did-" so that someone might catch it.
Never know who out there is a latent psion
Knowing that your thoughts may just be heard by someone else is half the fun! ;D
Quote from: Tallulah on April 20, 2009, 06:31:54 PM
Knowing that your thoughts may just be heard by someone else is half the fun! ;D
Bears repeating.
Quote from: Ourla on April 20, 2009, 06:49:30 PM
Quote from: Tallulah on April 20, 2009, 06:31:54 PM
Knowing that your thoughts may just be heard by someone else is half the fun! ;D
Bears repeating.
I don't usually bash Arm stuff (cept Tuluk (when I'm not playing there)) but god do I loathe psionicists.
I'd like to encourage psion characters to use their powers extremely carefully and even more sparingly. Think about how your powers might manipulate or more likely ruin plots. For once I'd like to see a psionicist who only uses their powers defensively. Boy, that would be cool, and by cool, I mean it would never happen.
>:(
Quote from: Rhyden on April 20, 2009, 08:39:53 PM
Quote from: Ourla on April 20, 2009, 06:49:30 PM
Quote from: Tallulah on April 20, 2009, 06:31:54 PM
Knowing that your thoughts may just be heard by someone else is half the fun! ;D
Bears repeating.
I don't usually bash Arm stuff (cept Tuluk (when I'm not playing there)) but god do I loathe psionicists.
I'd like to encourage psion characters to use their powers extremely carefully and even more sparingly. Think about how your powers might manipulate or more likely ruin plots. For once I'd like to see a psionicist who only uses their powers defensively. Boy, that would be cool, and by cool, I mean it would never happen.
>:(
Aieeee, I have so much to say about this and can't.
I know, Oulra, I know.
I wanted to start a new thread about the subject, but it would be impossible without revealing IC info or going down in flames.
My point: I think the game would be much better off without psionicists.
I too would like to encourage psionicists to be more responsible with their powers.
There's a lot I'd like to say on the matter, but can't.
What I can say:
Learn the thought patterns of your mark. Learn how they think, how they talk, and how they'd act in a given situation. Do some actual research on the mark.
Quote from: Rhyden link=topic=34496.msg441880#msg441880For once I'd like to see a psionicist who only uses their powers defensively. Boy, that would be cool, and by cool, I mean it would never happen.
Not so. But you'll never notice the cagey ones.
Quote from: brytta.leofa on April 20, 2009, 10:16:44 PM
Quote from: Rhyden link=topic=34496.msg441880#msg441880For once I'd like to see a psionicist who only uses their powers defensively. Boy, that would be cool, and by cool, I mean it would never happen.
Not so. But you'll never notice the cagey ones.
This.
A good psionicist never gets publicly outed and dies a quiet, possibly even unrelated, death.
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I'd like to encourage myself, so, if you don't mind, here goes..
GO MALKEN GO! GO GO MALKEN GO! GO GO GO MALKEN GO GO GO, YOU'RE THE BEST, GO MALKEN, GO!!!
Thank you.
Shoo. :P
I imagine a psion in a position of power (such as a noble) must have a hugely dampening effect on plots within a city. Basically Amos couldn't wipe his ass without Magneto the Noble knowing about it and discreetly sending his goons.
I refuse to even think of how it must be like in Tuluk with regards to plot-squelching.
But I haven't played one, so I don't know for certain.
Nevertheless, I'd "like to encourage" (read: I hope) that such characters are exceedingly rare and that they're played with restraint.
All the more reason to hate and kill them, right?
Plenty of Psi's have been well and subtly played with an emphasis of a defensive nature. You just only see the bad ones. Like with everything really.
Less talk about Psi's. It's so bordering the line of IC info! This is a very mysterious, sekret part of the game. Lets not spoil it for others....Before we all get in trouble.
I'd like to encourage people to stop complaining about a guild or clan in the game, because they have one or two isolated experiences that soured their opinions.
Quote from: Riev on April 21, 2009, 03:25:13 AM
I'd like to encourage people to stop complaining about a guild or clan in the game, because they have one or two isolated experiences that soured their opinions.
AMEN.
Quote from: Maso on April 21, 2009, 03:26:08 AM
Quote from: Riev on April 21, 2009, 03:25:13 AM
I'd like to encourage people to stop complaining about a guild or clan in the game, because they have one or two isolated experiences that soured their opinions.
AMEN.
A-fucking-men, indeed.
Quote from: Maso on April 21, 2009, 03:26:08 AM
Quote from: Riev on April 21, 2009, 03:25:13 AM
I'd like to encourage people to stop complaining about a guild or clan in the game, because they have one or two isolated experiences that soured their opinions.
AMEN.
Hallelujah, brother.
*shrug* I barely ever gripe. I just hate psions. So what?
I'd like to encourage people to let me have my opinions, and bash shit once in a blue moon. Bastards.
*goes back into hiding*
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on April 21, 2009, 02:54:31 AM
All the more reason to hate and kill them, right?
Hate, yes. The killing part is tricky at best, because they're so difficult to identify.
"because of one or two sour experiences". I love this community. ::)
Quote from: Rhyden on April 21, 2009, 03:35:44 AM
I'd like to encourage people to let me have my opinions.
This.
Apparently someone struck a nerve. ::)
Quote from: Eloran on April 21, 2009, 01:04:00 PM
Apparently someone struck a nerve. ::)
What struck a nerve, was the insinuation that psionicists exist solely to ruin plots. So do warriors, assassins, elementalists, and city elves, though c-elves only ruin their own plots, due to being horribly borked.
What few psions I've come across or known, have used their powers in complete fairness and necessarily. I've had my plots ruined more by elementalists and sorcerors more than psions, and we don't need another scapegoat for people to whine about.
I've seen c-elves screw up psi plots. >:(
If psions are using their powers fairly, that's great. I know myself that I would just prefer if they didn't exist at all, even if they are using their powers fairly. This does in fact hit a nerve with me, I simply do not like the concept of them, but I suppose this is all for another thread.
Right, encouragement: I encourage people to hire other people to do their dirty work for them. If you're already doing this, great! If not, great! But if the chance arises, hire other people!
Quote from: Riev on April 21, 2009, 01:21:03 PM
What struck a nerve, was the insinuation that psionicists exist solely to ruin plots.
No one said or insinuated psionicists exist solely to ruin plots.
Quote from: Riev on April 21, 2009, 01:21:03 PM
What few psions I've come across or known, have used their powers in complete fairness and necessarily.
That's great. I've played with several, and out of that group less than half used their powers responsibly. We just have differing opinions/experiences on the matter. That doesn't mean you have to jump to the guild's defense just because a few players voice their dislike for them.
Quote from: Riev on April 21, 2009, 01:21:03 PM
I've had my plots ruined more by elementalists and sorcerors more than psions, and we don't need another scapegoat for people to whine about.
No one was whining man. Rhyden and a couple other players voiced their dislike of the guild. I
encouraged players of psionicists to learn the voice of their mark, as well as how they act and respond to given situations before moving forward with their own machinations.
EDIT: Better Maso?
I hate this thread. TOO MANY HINTS AT IC INFO. :(
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Right, encouragement: I encourage people to hire other people to do their dirty work for them. If you're already doing this, great! If not, great! But if the chance arises, hire other people!
I encourage people to be available for hire to do the dirty work.
As long as an attempt is being made, I'm sure at some point the employer/dirtyworker will cross paths ;D
I'd like to encourage....more offpeakers to play offpeak.
I have a feeling we actually have a ton of offpeakers, who just log in during the limited peak times they can manage and avoid offpeak because it's known for being 'lame'. I think if we all logged in during offpeak it'd be PARTY TIME.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure people don't log in during off peak because it's off peak. Not because it's "lame".
Quote from: Maso on April 21, 2009, 02:16:46 PM
I'd like to encourage....more offpeakers to play offpeak.
I have a feeling we actually have a ton of offpeakers, who just log in during the limited peak times they can manage and avoid offpeak because it's known for being 'lame'. I think if we all logged in during offpeak it'd be PARTY TIME.
I tried that once as a clan recruiter. I felt so lonely. But the times where it wasn't lonely were awesome. Doesn't beat peak, though.
Quote from: Maso on April 21, 2009, 02:16:46 PM
I'd like to encourage....more offpeakers to play offpeak.
I have a feeling we actually have a ton of offpeakers, who just log in during the limited peak times they can manage and avoid offpeak because it's known for being 'lame'. I think if we all logged in during offpeak it'd be PARTY TIME.
No! Because of the damn offpeakers, I was on SO late the sun was starting to rise. I sacrificed my body and my life to play with the offpeakers, and what did I get for it? WHAT?
.... the answer is, some AWESOME RP experiences.
Quote from: Maso on April 21, 2009, 02:16:46 PM
I'd like to encourage....more offpeakers to play offpeak.
I have a feeling we actually have a ton of offpeakers, who just log in during the limited peak times they can manage and avoid offpeak because it's known for being 'lame'. I think if we all logged in during offpeak it'd be PARTY TIME.
I would imagine a lot of people don't play off peak is probably because they're in the USA and working during off peak hours. They are called peak for a reason.
I play off peak a lot. I never find anyone anymore. :-(
Quote from: Eloran on April 21, 2009, 01:43:53 PM
That's great. I've played with several, and out of that group less than half used their powers responsibly. We just have differing opinions/experiences on the matter. That doesn't mean you have to jump to the guild's defense just because a few players voice their dislike for them.
Players don't have to use their guild's powers responsibly. They're well within their rights to RP it out that the power has gotten to their character's head and he uses and abuses it. The thing with mindbenders is that there (typically) was checks and balances to this power that kept players from abusing the potential power of the class. Basically it boiled down to: get found out and you were humped. This encouraged a highly defensive and passive playstyle if you wanted to survive as a mindbender and you were always a single mistake away from potential doom. The period that I'm presuming you're talking about is when the checks and balances were thrown out the window by the Imms and players were allowed to get away with murder. I guess this was as the Imms thought the game might be closing soon enough. I think it left a number of people with a sour taste in their mouth about mindbenders though as, without the usual restrictions being ranged against them, they're extremely powerful and dangerous. I played as a well-advanced mindbender in the hidden times and the open times. The former was a lot of fun. The latter was awful in my opinion.
Quote from: Riev on April 21, 2009, 09:55:12 PM
Quote from: Maso on April 21, 2009, 02:16:46 PM
I'd like to encourage....more offpeakers to play offpeak.
I have a feeling we actually have a ton of offpeakers, who just log in during the limited peak times they can manage and avoid offpeak because it's known for being 'lame'. I think if we all logged in during offpeak it'd be PARTY TIME.
No! Because of the damn offpeakers, I was on SO late the sun was starting to rise. I sacrificed my body and my life to play with the offpeakers, and what did I get for it? WHAT?
.... the answer is, some AWESOME RP experiences.
There was one time late at night when I was chatting it up with this one guy. Can't say anything too IC, but the conversation lasted for HOURS, and it was all relevant. And awesome.
....too bad it was with an NPC :(
MOAR OFFPEAKERZ!!
Quote from: Tallulah on April 22, 2009, 11:03:55 AM
Quote from: Maso on April 21, 2009, 02:16:46 PM
I'd like to encourage....more offpeakers to play offpeak.
I have a feeling we actually have a ton of offpeakers, who just log in during the limited peak times they can manage and avoid offpeak because it's known for being 'lame'. I think if we all logged in during offpeak it'd be PARTY TIME.
I would imagine a lot of people don't play off peak is probably because they're in the USA and working during off peak hours. They are called peak for a reason.
I'm only talking about players who live in timezones that make them 'offpeak players'....
Quote from: Maso on April 24, 2009, 03:31:24 AM
Quote from: Tallulah on April 22, 2009, 11:03:55 AM
Quote from: Maso on April 21, 2009, 02:16:46 PM
I'd like to encourage....more offpeakers to play offpeak.
I have a feeling we actually have a ton of offpeakers, who just log in during the limited peak times they can manage and avoid offpeak because it's known for being 'lame'. I think if we all logged in during offpeak it'd be PARTY TIME.
I would imagine a lot of people don't play off peak is probably because they're in the USA and working during off peak hours. They are called peak for a reason.
I'm only talking about players who live in timezones that make them 'offpeak players'....
Ah. You didn't specify that.
I am like, off-peak on-peak off-peak. I AM ALWAYS AROUND. it's great fun, and I see plenty of off-peakers.
Quote from: Tallulah on April 24, 2009, 05:25:27 AM
Quote from: Maso on April 24, 2009, 03:31:24 AM
Quote from: Tallulah on April 22, 2009, 11:03:55 AM
Quote from: Maso on April 21, 2009, 02:16:46 PM
I'd like to encourage....more offpeakers to play offpeak.
I have a feeling we actually have a ton of offpeakers, who just log in during the limited peak times they can manage and avoid offpeak because it's known for being 'lame'. I think if we all logged in during offpeak it'd be PARTY TIME.
I would imagine a lot of people don't play off peak is probably because they're in the USA and working during off peak hours. They are called peak for a reason.
I'm only talking about players who live in timezones that make them 'offpeak players'....
Ah. You didn't specify that.
i've been off-peak for the last few months a bit and i still haven't seen another PC :(
Maybe its where im playing...
I play all over the clock and there are plenty of hopping off-peak players. You just have to be smart as to where you play. Don't pick a fringe tribe or clan if you only get to play in the middle of the night US time.
Quote from: Nile on April 24, 2009, 07:16:48 PM
i've been off-peak for the last few months a bit and i still haven't seen another PC :(
Maybe its where im playing...
I'd just make sure you're hitting up one of the big city states and not hiding indoors all the time. >>
I'd like to encourage attractive characters to spend some effort working on their looks. Granted, I suppose most do, but if you're not, then you should.
Quote from: SMuz on April 26, 2009, 08:03:29 AM
I'd like to encourage attractive characters to spend some effort working on their looks. Granted, I suppose most do, but if you're not, then you should.
Ooh, never thought of this before--that's a good point. Your face is
clean? Well, alright... but dump out a waterskin every other week or something.
I'd like to encourage people to stay on topic on threads, not to troll, and not to degenerate into bickering and flaming.
... people to engage themselves in awesome culture like a certain new clan.
...people to try new clans, in general. There have been several clans that I just hated, but after trying them I have a totally different perspective on them.
Quote from: SMuz on April 26, 2009, 08:03:29 AM
I'd like to encourage attractive characters to spend some effort working on their looks. Granted, I suppose most do, but if you're not, then you should.
I've seen it done before and I thought it was pretty damn cool, actually.
I'd like to encourage myself to actually log in. :-\
Today's the day, I can feel it!
Quote from: SMuz on April 26, 2009, 08:03:29 AM
I'd like to encourage attractive characters to spend some effort working on their looks. Granted, I suppose most do, but if you're not, then you should.
I made a ranger character with a very attractive desc (didn't even realise the desc was attractive until a few days after I had her). Because she had soft skin, I'd keep her under a cloak at all times and make her hide in caves during a sandstorm. And if I had some water to spare, I'd use some bulbous sacs to clean her hair. Also kept the hair short to keep sand out. It was fun. Pity she spent so much time outdoors and under cloaks that nobody ever saw her sdesc.
I'd like to encourage the next character who wants to make a whore to make a male one. The game needs more PC manwhores. After all, there's plenty of female nobles and templars who get just a bit lonely at times. And male nobles too, if that's where you want your character to lean ;)
(I think it's a bit hard because prostitutes are generally not too confident, but a man has to be very confident to be considered attractive)
Quote from: SMuz on April 30, 2009, 09:27:15 AM
I'd like to encourage the next character who wants to make a whore to make a male one. The game needs more PC manwhores. After all, there's plenty of female nobles and templars who get just a bit lonely at times. And male nobles too, if that's where you want your character to lean ;)
(I think it's a bit hard because prostitutes are generally not too confident, but a man has to be very confident to be considered attractive)
That.
Next character.
I haven't seen any Zalanthan whores in six months.
Quote from: jcljules on April 30, 2009, 04:44:48 PM
I haven't seen any Zalanthan whores in six months.
You must not be playing.
Quote from: Archbaron on April 30, 2009, 04:59:16 PM
Quote from: jcljules on April 30, 2009, 04:44:48 PM
I haven't seen any Zalanthan whores in six months.
You must not be playing.
Well I've seen plenty of "Whores."
Just not, well, prostitutes.
Quote from: jcljules on April 30, 2009, 05:06:52 PM
Quote from: Archbaron on April 30, 2009, 04:59:16 PM
Quote from: jcljules on April 30, 2009, 04:44:48 PM
I haven't seen any Zalanthan whores in six months.
You must not be playing.
Well I've seen plenty of "Whores."
Just not, well, prostitutes.
I've played a high-class whore within the past six months!
Quote from: Zoltan on April 26, 2009, 10:44:38 AM
I'd like to encourage myself to actually log in. :-\
Today's the day, I can feel it!
Amen, brother.
I keep
thinking about wanting to play a little. Really. I do. I swear.
Quote from: Fathi on April 30, 2009, 10:23:45 PM
Quote from: Zoltan on April 26, 2009, 10:44:38 AM
I'd like to encourage myself to actually log in. :-\
Today's the day, I can feel it!
Amen, brother.
I keep thinking about wanting to play a little. Really. I do. I swear.
If I remember correctly, I actually -did- log in that day... a lot. Or maybe it was the next. My last character rocked; this one's a lot harder to get into. Guess they call 'em throw-aways for a reason.
I can feel myself getting pumped up again for Arm, though!
I'd like to encourage people to try something new with their next character, if you feel like (or you KNOW) you are stuck in a certain niche.
Doesn't matter what it is. Try something you didn't do.
Quote from: Cutthroat on May 01, 2009, 07:00:12 AM
I'd like to encourage people to try something new with their next character, if you feel like (or you KNOW) you are stuck in a certain niche.
Doesn't matter what it is. Try something you didn't do.
Been thinking about just this thing. My Karma went up a point several months ago, giving me the chance to try out a new option that had begun to capture my interest and imagination some, so I think I'll try it out on my next character.
..Of course, considering how long my current character has survived, that may be a while. I fully expected myself to a) get them killed or b) become bored with them, to the point of storage. They still live (knock on wood), and while I've gone through spots of boredom and disconnection, they still hold a great deal of interest to me. I mean, they've got an actual IG history, instead of the virtual one they came with at creation. This hasn't happened that often for my characters, and I like to keep them around for as long as possible, when it does.
I'd like to encourage everyone to have at least one, good long-lived character. Props, if it's combat oriented and survives some crazy shit. The stories you'll be able to tell will be fantastic, trust me.
Quote from: Pale Horse on May 01, 2009, 07:32:36 AM
I'd like to encourage everyone to have at least one, good long-lived character. Props, if it's combat oriented and survives some crazy shit. The stories you'll be able to tell will be fantastic, trust me.
So true. The longer the life, the more interesting things you could unlock. You guys should totally make a character with the purpose of living long ;)
Quote from: SMuz on May 01, 2009, 08:33:44 AM
So true. The longer the life, the more interesting things you could unlock. You guys should totally make a character with the purpose of living long ;)
this is while most characters don't. because if your character was real, that would be his only goal, to live long.
You guy should totally STOP making chars that do not value their own life highly.
People to read the social rank tables. I'm tired of people treating my PC as an inferior, when they're not, or as a superior, when they're not.
Quote from: jcljules on May 03, 2009, 09:06:06 PM
People to read the social rank tables. I'm tired of people treating my PC as an inferior, when they're not, or as a superior, when they're not.
The social rank tables is not the be all and end all of social exchange. A lot of things matter other than that.
Well, yes, of course there are a lot of different factors. But I've experienced some obvious mistakes... like PCs being deferent to my PC who were several stations above him, for no real reason.
For example (not related to anything IC at all) a Tuluki commoner with no affiliation referring to a Master Assassin as "criminal scum."
Wasn't meant just to be critical of other people--I hadn't read them until recently and I've learned a lot from them.
I'd like to encourage people to stop dying. I'm tired of making new friends. I want to keep you damnit!
Quote from: tortall on May 03, 2009, 09:34:06 PM
I'd like to encourage people to stop dying. I'm tired of making new friends. I want to keep you damnit!
Try living for over 2 rl years with the same character.
Or, hell, 4 - or 8, or more. It's happened before.
Does Sargax really count? Really?
Old Stone > Sargax
What is wrong with Sargax? (I dont know him other than 2 minutes of interaction that was... 5 years ago or so)
Nothing, heh, he was just so flaming old that he broke the curve on PC lifespans.
...that have been other ancients, though... and I'm sure some still remain..
*ominous music plays*
Quote from: jcljules on May 03, 2009, 09:28:45 PM
Well, yes, of course there are a lot of different factors. But I've experienced some obvious mistakes... like PCs being deferent to my PC who were several stations above him, for no real reason.
For example (not related to anything IC at all) a Tuluki commoner with no affiliation referring to a Master Assassin as "criminal scum."
Wasn't meant just to be critical of other people--I hadn't read them until recently and I've learned a lot from them.
I think this is probably something you should be looking at and thinking about IC'ly. I think it's very likely that there are IC explanations for activity of this sort and that it has nothing to do with the other person not being aware of social rank OOC'ly.
A few I saw in here that I also strongly promote.
A long lived PC
Try and play a long lifer, at least once. I've played a few, they are fun and you have an awesome history after a while. Plus it's always cool to meet a PC in game that can tell you -real- stories that you might remember from a while ago.
Bios
Awesome way to flesh your PC out, keep up with your personal history.
Keep it IC
I used to be a big OOC chat person, I still have some OOC friends, that stupid mansa who has Pig Flu. I don't talk about my PC's though, ever, anymore to anyone. I've been keeping that up for about 4-5 years now and playing is a lot more fun. Tensions between you and other characters are more dangerous, love interests more spicy, surprises actually come as a surprise. OOC com can honestly ruin the game for you. If you are a bit of an OOC chatter, try and go without for a while, see if you like it better.
Hemote
Yay!! I love Hemoting. Love, love love.. encourage all to use and abuse it.. Yay!
That's all I got on encouragement right now.
Quote from: sarahjc on May 04, 2009, 01:56:57 PM
Hemote
Yay!! I love Hemoting. Love, love love.. encourage all to use and abuse it.. Yay!
That's all I got on encouragement right now.
There is nothing better than a long hemote session.
Quote from: tortall on May 04, 2009, 07:49:52 PM
Quote from: sarahjc on May 04, 2009, 01:56:57 PM
Hemote
Yay!! I love Hemoting. Love, love love.. encourage all to use and abuse it.. Yay!
That's all I got on encouragement right now.
There is nothing better than a long hemote session.
I hemote a lot, hoping people will notice. Or, I did with one character in particular, anyway.
Quote from: Zoltan on May 04, 2009, 08:35:20 PM
Quote from: tortall on May 04, 2009, 07:49:52 PM
Quote from: sarahjc on May 04, 2009, 01:56:57 PM
Hemote
Yay!! I love Hemoting. Love, love love.. encourage all to use and abuse it.. Yay!
That's all I got on encouragement right now.
There is nothing better than a long hemote session.
Is it bad RP to just plain emote, "You notice:" something instead of using hemote? Like something that your PC wants others to see, but also wants them to think he's being furtive about it. Or maybe if you want to RP your PC being bad at subtlety, so -everyone- notices his mistakes.
I hemote a lot, hoping people will notice. Or, I did with one character in particular, anyway.
Why not just emote doing it poorly?
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on May 04, 2009, 11:26:39 PM
Why not just emote doing it poorly?
This is a better venue than faking the echo.
Yeah, I'd like to encourage avoiding OOC too. There have been a few cases where my character was pondering releasing some fool who he knocked out. But after that fool started OOC-ing "sorry" or ":-(" or "this is my first char", something of that sort, I just toss in a OOC "keep it IC, nothing personal" then kill him. Even when I pondered letting him go. Playing the newbie card runs close to cheating, IMO and is rather annoying, especially when I let you go the last time and you just spam fled.
If you really want to beg for mercy, I'd encourage you to do it ICly. Show fear, cower, stutter, whatever. If you're KOed, then emote your tears as you lay upon the ground bleeding, and such. Don't OOC hoping for mercy from the player.
i'd like to encourage people to glare at gemmers more as they mutter under their breath, spit on elves more, and kick the gut of breeds more
i'd like to encourage more racism, bigotry and hate. This is Armageddon! Not Tolkien Fantasy World #5829!
I'd like to encourage people to enjoy their spam-skilling/skinning/casting/crafting/scripting when they at least -think- they're alone...and play more believably when they -know- they're not alone.
Emotes don't equal roleplay. Ignoring your character's immediate environment and circumstances when you utilize the game commands/skill code...also does not equal roleplay.
Use the sniff command more. It rocks. Sniff room. You'll be amazed. And taste. People should experiment with seasonings more. They rock.
And smoke spice and wear perfume to give us sniffers a good wiff other than dust and sweat!
i too wouold like more people to sniff and be sniffable.
I use sniff all the damn time. Great command.
I never do because I'm unsure if/how it echoes.
It doesn't echo.
Oh, cool. I actually didn't know if it did or not.
I rarely sniff people. 95% of them smell like dust and sweat anyway. I was very tempted to sniff poop sometimes, but I'm afraid that it would get stuck on my character's nose or something.
I'd like to encourage some of you wearing perfume to sometimes casually put it in an emote, e.g. :As @ leans in towards ~man, her strong perfume wafts through the air.
Quote from: SMuz on May 21, 2009, 06:26:24 PM
I rarely sniff people. 95% of them smell like dust and sweat anyway. I was very tempted to sniff poop sometimes, but I'm afraid that it would get stuck on my character's nose or something.
I'd like to encourage some of you wearing perfume to sometimes casually put it in an emote, e.g. :As @ leans in towards ~man, her strong perfume wafts through the air.
hemote is a perfume-wearer's friend.
Quote from: SMuz on May 21, 2009, 06:26:24 PM
I rarely sniff people. 95% of them smell like dust and sweat anyway. I was very tempted to sniff poop sometimes, but I'm afraid that it would get stuck on my character's nose or something.
I'd like to encourage some of you wearing perfume to sometimes casually put it in an emote, e.g. :As @ leans in towards ~man, her strong perfume wafts through the air.
For the record: perfume, dust, and sweat are not the only things that people can smell of. ;)
No one in their right mind would voluntarily sniff a Bynner, so that scent is lost entirely. ;)
Involuntary action is still an action.
I would like to encourage everybody in the game. I have been having one of the best times EVAR interacting with you recently.
Quote from: brytta.leofa on May 21, 2009, 09:45:06 PM
For the record: perfume, dust, and sweat are not the only things that people can smell of. ;)
I sniffed a dungsweeping Bynner once. I was very disappointed when he smelled like dust and sweat despite having shit-covered armor.
Quote from: SMuz on May 25, 2009, 02:13:12 PM
I sniffed a dungsweeping Bynner once. I was very disappointed when he smelled like dust and sweat despite having shit-covered armor.
Yeah, the smell that PCs get for doing that wears off pretty quick, but the "smelly" tag is permanent until you get your stuff cleaned.
I think elves should refer to half-elves as "half-humans". It's a bit odd when an elf refers to one as a 'half-skinny'.
Quote from: SMuz on June 06, 2009, 12:34:19 PM
I think elves should refer to half-elves as "half-humans". It's a bit odd when an elf refers to one as a 'half-skinny'.
Elves are proud of being what they are. For one to call someone a half-skinny would be an insult. But then calling them half-roundear would be an insult as well.
Yeah, I mean, it's like more of "half of the other race". Most humans wouldn't admit to the half-elf being of the same race as them.
Quote from: SMuz on June 06, 2009, 12:34:19 PM
I think elves should refer to half-elves as "half-humans". It's a bit odd when an elf refers to one as a 'half-skinny'.
I endorse this post.
Quote from: FantasyWriter on June 06, 2009, 12:58:03 PM
Quote from: SMuz on June 06, 2009, 12:34:19 PM
I think elves should refer to half-elves as "half-humans". It's a bit odd when an elf refers to one as a 'half-skinny'.
I endorse this post.
A human calling a half-elf a half-human might be a sort of compliment.
A less slavish attachment to the colours of your employer.
Come on, people! You can wear more than two colours. I promise it won't hurt.
Quote from: Prodikus on June 26, 2009, 10:38:14 AM
A less slavish attachment to the colours of your employer.
People to, when possible, wear off-duty clothes when they're off-duty. :)
Quote from: Prodikus on June 26, 2009, 10:38:14 AM
A less slavish attachment to the colours of your employer.
Come on, people! You can wear more than two colours. I promise it won't hurt.
On Zalanthas, being employed by a noble or merchant House is something most folks would take a great deal of pride in. Wearing your House's colors does a few things: 1) it shows your employers that you are proud of your position in the House, and that you take your job seriously; 2) it signals to the average commoner that you are better than they are; 3) it signals to professional criminals that you aren't merely "free game," because a greater power has a vested interest in your well-being; 4) it signals to authority figures that "this person is someone I probably shouldn't waste my time harassing;" 5) it signals to potential mates that you are someone who "has it made," by Zalanthan standards.
Quote from: Prodikus on June 26, 2009, 10:38:14 AM
I promise it won't hurt.
Depends on your employer. 8)
I'd like to encourage role-playing real emotions! It's super fun, I've found. Having spastic panic attacks because you are in a cruel city far from home and found out you have no friends and no jobs and no one likes you because you're... not from there... that's scary! Play like you're homesick, play like you're close to pissing your pants when someone catches you and locks you up. Scream at someone until your throat is raw, whip your subordinates. Get a giddy smile that spreads from ear to ear, be transparent. There're only so many psychopaths in the real world, so everyone shouldn't be a psychopath in Zalanthas. Pretend like things happen while you are not logged in. Drool over a buff guy, humor old ladies. Just... have fun, because it is a game, and the purpose should be to provide fun for yourself, and anyone around you.
Oh, and don't be baby-killers, unless you are a necker or a gemmer. Then by all means!
Quote from: brytta.leofa on June 26, 2009, 12:16:23 PM
Quote from: Prodikus on June 26, 2009, 10:38:14 AM
A less slavish attachment to the colours of your employer.
People to, when possible, wear off-duty clothes when they're off-duty. :)
I did that once. One guy yelled at my character when he wasn't wearing his uniform on his day off.
Quote from: SMuz on June 27, 2009, 12:25:47 AM
I did that once. One guy yelled at my character when he wasn't wearing his uniform on his day off.
That's because between odd play times and limited hours in general, no one is ever really off duty.
Not to mention changing clothes is a pain in the butt.
Quote from: Dalmeth on June 27, 2009, 03:38:03 AM
Quote from: SMuz on June 27, 2009, 12:25:47 AM
I did that once. One guy yelled at my character when he wasn't wearing his uniform on his day off.
That's because between odd play times and limited hours in general, no one is ever really off duty.
Not to mention changing clothes is a pain in the butt.
The last time a character of mine tried to change his clothes, his pants were stolen from his inventory before I had time to emote the process of him slipping them on.
You don't always have to get the last word Nyr.
Quote from: Synthesis on June 26, 2009, 02:17:51 PM
On Zalanthas, being employed by a noble or merchant House is something most folks would take a great deal of pride in. Wearing your House's colors does a few things: 1) it shows your employers that you are proud of your position in the House, and that you take your job seriously; 2) it signals to the average commoner that you are better than they are; 3) it signals to professional criminals that you aren't merely "free game," because a greater power has a vested interest in your well-being; 4) it signals to authority figures that "this person is someone I probably shouldn't waste my time harassing;" 5) it signals to potential mates that you are someone who "has it made," by Zalanthan standards.
Abso-fucking-lutely.
If you want to join clans that do not tend towards a 'slavish attachment' to colors, there are a good many of them out there. Those clans where everybody wears the same colors probably have some creed on the subject. As to why, again, see Syn's post, above.
It should be a matter of pride to wear the clan's colors..but it should -also- be a matter of pride, to have enough fashion sense that you can mix and match, coordinate and contrast, with flair. One doesn't need to see a Lirathan wearing head-to-toe white, to know she's a Lirathan, and proud of being a Lirathan. In my mind, it shows lack of imagination, more than pride. It says to me, "This person has no idea what works with white, OR is sociopathically obsessed for some reason, which makes her scary, by virtue of her wardrobe alone."
There are people who wear actual uniforms..and yeah changing for your 1-day-off-per-week which amounts to 1 RL hour per day..is insanity.
But if you aren't required to wear a uniform, or your uniform consists only of one or two items, why -not- mix and match? Why -not- change shit up now and then? Maybe even just simple things..instead of head-to-toe crimson, why not add a dash of black in a pair of pants, and a silver stud in your ear, maybe some moonstone bracelets and matching buttons on your shirt. It all goes great with crimson, but it also breaks up the monotony. The only image I get when I see people wearing head-to-toe anything, are soldiers, and pimps.
Clothing is a matter of the boss and character's personal choice. I've had clanned character who refused to wear anything but the colors and others who were very lax about their look. Situation and rp dependent. I think its best just to trust people to handle something like this.
Quote from: Armageddon OverviewIt does not mean that Armageddon is for people who revel masochistically in abuse. We have created this harsh world with the idea that the heart of narrative lies in conflict and dealing with hardship. The point of the world is not to allow a few overachieving players to boost their egos at the expense of the rest of the players; on the contrary, we hope that players will find in the harsh, unforgiving reality of Armageddon a great deal of freedom in which to explore the narrative of the world and, even more importantly, the nuances of its characters and the stories played out there.
I so agree with this.
It's about survival and dealing with hardship. In other words, it's not against documentation to be nice to each other! If you really want it rough, play as an elf.
I feel like taking some times out to write at least a few kudos that I think are long overdue.
I'd like to encourage everyone to write at least one kudo today.
Kudos are the warm fuzzies of Armageddon, and we could all use a few more of those.
*ducks out of the way of staff-thrown boots*
QuoteKudos (General)
Kudos are a form of thanks you can grant to another player or a staff member for something they do that you perceive as kind or as an improvement to the game or atmosphere. Kudos can be submitted through the request tool, which is available at http://www.armageddon.org/request
In order to get a kudo resolved in a rapid time, it is very helpful to have the character's name (as you know it) and the character's short description.
QuoteRequest Type: Game Related -- Player Kudos
Use this to convey your appreciation for an Armageddon player in any specific or general way. Please include the sdesc, in addition to the name, of the person you are providing kudos to. Many players have a the same name and so the sdesc will help ensure we send your kudos to the right person. Finally, please write more than one line for a kudos. Simply telling someone "Nice job!" means little when you could be saying, specifically, what you think they did a good job doing.
I recently received a player kudos. It made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. ;D
Quote from: Zoltan on July 01, 2009, 04:22:30 PM
I recently received a player kudos. It made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. ;D
Same here. And I had been feeling neglected, too. It inspired me to send out some myself.
Quote from: jcljules on July 01, 2009, 04:23:57 PM
Same here. And I had been feeling neglected, too. It inspired me to send out some myself.
I find this to be true. Too often I say "Man that was a really good, natural emote from X person that doesn't normally do that." or "That was an AMAZING scene." but end up just doing nothing about it. LazyPlayerSyndrome.
Some player kudos I got convinced me to come back to the game after a sizeable hiatus. Having a blast now.
Kudos are good. Send them. You may receive monkeys in return.
Quote from: SMuz on June 28, 2009, 06:56:19 AM
Quote from: Armageddon OverviewIt does not mean that Armageddon is for people who revel masochistically in abuse.
Wait, since when?
I'd like to encourage people to remember that characters are played by people who often read the GDB. So talking about particular clans is either mean if you've been paying attention to recent PCs in them, or just ignorant if you haven't been. :P Please take that in a general sense.
I'd like more people in the south to use the private tables at the Gaj. Form cliques. Set boundaries. Exclude people. Brawl over tables. Like a middle-school lunchroom with live weaponry.
Quote from: Morrolan on July 23, 2009, 06:16:19 AM
I'd like more people in the south to use the private tables at the Gaj. Form cliques. Set boundaries. Exclude people. Brawl over tables. Like a middle-school lunchroom with live weaponry.
But.. my character doesn't have any friends..
I'd like to encourage players to double-check their tdescs and to reset them after mudsex.
Please.
Saw a cum stained aide?
I'd like to encourage more cum-stained aides.
Quote from: spicemustflow on August 11, 2009, 07:02:46 AM
Saw a cum stained aide?
Considering how crazy a PC's love life tends to get in Arm, you realize it could be -anything- that is expelled from the body. :o
People roleplaying out travel realistically.
Quote from: el_cid on September 29, 2009, 10:16:04 PM
People roleplaying out travel realistically.
Realistic travel:
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A pc is here.
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I'd like to encourage people to punctuate their sentences.
Arm is not like other muds that automatically capitalise and punctuate for you.
It's not that hard to add it on your own, and it looks so much nicer when you do. Please? :'(
Quote from: Fathi on September 29, 2009, 10:59:50 PM
I'd like to encourage people to punctuate their sentences.
Arm is not like other muds that automatically capitalise and punctuate for you.
It's not that hard to add it on your own, and it looks so much nicer when you do. Please? :'(
wut r u talking bout fathi
am i not doin it rite
brandon
Quote from: Fathi on September 29, 2009, 10:59:50 PM
I'd like to encourage people to punctuate their sentences.
Arm is not like other muds that automatically capitalise and punctuate for you.
It's not that hard to add it on your own, and it looks so much nicer when you do. Please? :'(
Faithi is right. Always.
Adding to the "know your place" posts: I'd like to encourage people to stay unclanned for a bit then become so supper excited when even _considered_ for an elite house position! Full time employment? Gear? Safe place to sleep? Food? WATER?! I mean come on!!! That's HUGE!!
I'd like to encourage new nobles to go around w/o gloves for awhile -- easier to spot those rings = more realistic response from PCs
Finally, I'd like to encourage more use of the tea house
So clan X is riding along, and they stop to rest mounts. People start looking over things on their mounts, mostly just making sure nothing fell off or whatever I suppose for roleplay purposes.
So I'm seeing five or six versions of "The manly scarred man dude looks over the things strapped to a war beetle."
And then:
You notice: A war beetle looks over the things strapped to the tressy tressed woman.
I laughed aloud for a good long while after seeing that. I want to encourage imms for moar of this kind of thing. And to say how fun they've been lately.
I had a boulder shift under my weight as I set on it not to long ago.. it gave me warm fuzzies all over.
Quote from: Sandstone on October 01, 2009, 07:50:13 AM
So clan X is riding along, and they stop to rest mounts. People start looking over things on their mounts, mostly just making sure nothing fell off or whatever I suppose for roleplay purposes.
So I'm seeing five or six versions of "The manly scarred man dude looks over the things strapped to a war beetle."
And then:
You notice: A war beetle looks over the things strapped to the tressy tressed woman.
I laughed aloud for a good long while after seeing that. I want to encourage imms for moar of this kind of thing. And to say how fun they've been lately.
I had a weird keyword mishap recently where another character was strapping something to their mount, and the echo I got was:
The other guy straps you to their beastie. That was pretty funny.
I like hearing about players getting random interaction from On High. It doesn't seem to ever happen to me. :(
I had something happen to me a while back when I was in Nenyuk's ... I had no idea if it was an NPC script or an awesome animation. Either way, it ruled. At the time, I was sure it was a script ... but I haven't seen it since. Kudos to the imm that did it (either wrote the script or did the animation).
Quote from: Thunkkin on October 02, 2009, 04:06:19 PM
I had something happen to me a while back when I was in Nenyuk's ... I had no idea if it was an NPC script or an awesome animation. Either way, it ruled. At the time, I was sure it was a script ... but I haven't seen it since. Kudos to the imm that did it (either wrote the script or did the animation).
SHUT UP THUNKKIN
Where were we?
I'd like to encourage players to take scenes into their two hands and twist them into their own making therein clashing with others who try to twist them into theirs. Never be afraid to enter the emote, talk and say with gusto; we need movers and shakers.
Quote from: Northlander on October 05, 2009, 05:54:44 AM
I'd like to encourage players to take scenes into their two hands and twist them into their own making therein clashing with others who try to twist them into theirs. Never be afraid to enter the emote, talk and say with gusto; we need movers and shakers.
Power emoting?
...more people to follow the social rankings available in the documents. Especially in Allanak.
http://www.armageddon.org/general/ranktable.html (http://www.armageddon.org/general/ranktable.html)
Quote from: Gargath on October 05, 2009, 10:37:37 AM
...more people to follow the social rankings available in the documents. Especially in Allanak.
http://www.armageddon.org/general/ranktable.html (http://www.armageddon.org/general/ranktable.html)
I agree. Though I'd like to see it updated a bit especially on the GMH part with certain ranks like Agent/Overseer/Trader. Essentially to know where Family members sit on that social ladder.
Brandon
Wow a nobles aide is above a sergeant.
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on October 05, 2009, 11:01:37 AM
Wow a nobles aide is above a sergeant.
No, because the ranks for Corporal and Sergeant in the AoD are actually wrongly switched on that chart. That chart is...wrong in places, and incomplete at best.
Quote from: Gimfalisette on October 05, 2009, 11:39:34 AM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on October 05, 2009, 11:01:37 AM
Wow a nobles aide is above a sergeant.
No, because the ranks for Corporal and Sergeant in the AoD are actually wrongly switched on that chart. That chart is...wrong in places, and incomplete at best.
Anyone with the knowledge want to submit an updated one?
I'm not that person but would be rad!
Brandon
Find out IC.
Quote from: FuSoYa on October 05, 2009, 11:40:13 AM
Quote from: Gimfalisette on October 05, 2009, 11:39:34 AM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on October 05, 2009, 11:01:37 AM
Wow a nobles aide is above a sergeant.
No, because the ranks for Corporal and Sergeant in the AoD are actually wrongly switched on that chart. That chart is...wrong in places, and incomplete at best.
Anyone with the knowledge want to submit an updated one?
Eh, the errors have been pointed out and suggestions submitted to the imms previously, and nothing was done about it. What it would take is for some staff member to take a particular interest in making it right.
Quote from: Gimfalisette on October 05, 2009, 11:45:14 AM
Eh, the errors have been pointed out and suggestions submitted to the imms previously, and nothing was done about it. What it would take is for some staff member to take a particular interest in making it right.
Perhaps if someone takes it upon themselves to submit an easily changeable graph with the same type of information in a more current offering and any minor tweaks could be made without much trouble by the staff it could help.
Just a thought.
Other then that I hope the AoD keeps bowing to them fucking aides.
Brandon
Well, I'm saying that's been done. But it wasn't a staff priority at the time to correct the various errors on the chart, nor do I believe it is a priority now since no staff are saying it's a priority. I mean, there are ranks on the chart that do not actually even exist. There are ranks that are switched. There's no place for gemmers on the chart, so no one ever really knows where they go. There's no place for 'rinthis on the chart, so ditto. Slaves are only on there at one spot which is just not correct.
It's a lovely idea to think that we can just submit stuff and get attention paid to the problem, but in practice that doesn't often work. And to be honest, since the energy has already been put into this particular problem at least once from the player side, I personally feel extremely mehhhhhhhh about bothering to try again.
However, if you really want to go for it, I'd suggest starting a discussion thread. I'll be happy to give you my own personal opinion based on knowledge and experience. I still don't think staff will do anything about the chart, probably for good reason, but at least then the knowledge of the playerbase on the issue may be expanded.
I don't think "Aide" on that chart means "aide" like we loosely use the term to refer to clanned PCs that don't fit into the guard/slave category. I suspect that most of the in-game "aides" would actually fall into the House servant category, which is quite a bit lower in status.
Quote from: Gimfalisette on October 05, 2009, 11:58:31 AM
However, if you really want to go for it, I'd suggest starting a discussion thread. I'll be happy to give you my own personal opinion based on knowledge and experience. I still don't think staff will do anything about the chart, probably for good reason, but at least then the knowledge of the playerbase on the issue may be expanded.
No, I don't.
Personally, I'm fine with how my character interacts with most others IG and think I have a fairly good grasp on it. I merely thought it might be a good idea for other players who do not.
I'd like to think I understand your frustration though and if it's not to be well then it's not to be.
It is what is.
Brandon
First, I'd like to encourage the people of Wisconsin to take a moment to research their acronyms before print :D ;)
Secondly, I'd like to encourage PCs to have more hobbies!! If you're an employed guard, there is no reason your PC should be out hawking their silken gloves. If you have something worth selling -- find a PC merchant to sell it on your behalf (it's da law, damnit) better yet, treat it as all homemade gifts -- the quality that says "I thought of you" instead of "this is a quality piece worth sids"
Another example is all the wonderful coded games (cards, dice, izdari, and others)
Remember, not everything you do is worth sids! Some of it is just worth -- hobby status.
Quote from: Lizzie on October 05, 2009, 11:43:17 AM
Find out IC.
If a person who lived in Allanak his whole life needs to find those little details of who's above whom in a <social ladder> IC. Then ... well ... there is no social ladder.
Quote from: Dar on October 05, 2009, 12:33:26 PM
Quote from: Lizzie on October 05, 2009, 11:43:17 AM
Find out IC.
If a person who lived in Allanak his whole life needs to find those little details of who's above whom in a <social ladder> IC. Then ... well ... there is no social ladder.
True. The hierarchy of the society is what defines 'nak. It's vital that from the very start one would train their child in the basics -- recognizing who are their betters and who are somewhat equal -- as basic as knowing the differences between the houses.
Want to know more about Allanaki social hierarchy, have at it: http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,36595.msg480083.html#new
Quote from: Dar on October 05, 2009, 12:33:26 PM
Quote from: Lizzie on October 05, 2009, 11:43:17 AM
Find out IC.
If a person who lived in Allanak his whole life needs to find those little details of who's above whom in a <social ladder> IC. Then ... well ... there is no social ladder.
I'm pretty sure what Lizzie meant is that not all employees are treated equally. That is, there are political and functional forces at play that go far beyond etiquette.
For example, a commoner GMH spymaster might always be expected to bow to a blue-robe templar when in public, but that GMH could possibly be more inclined to assassinate even a red-robe templar than lose their spymaster.
Quote from: Synthesis on October 05, 2009, 12:46:06 PM
Quote from: Dar on October 05, 2009, 12:33:26 PM
Quote from: Lizzie on October 05, 2009, 11:43:17 AM
Find out IC.
If a person who lived in Allanak his whole life needs to find those little details of who's above whom in a <social ladder> IC. Then ... well ... there is no social ladder.
I'm pretty sure what Lizzie meant is that not all employees are treated equally. That is, there are political and functional forces at play that go far beyond etiquette.
For example, a commoner GMH spymaster might always be expected to bow to a blue-robe templar when in public, but that GMH could possibly be more inclined to assassinate even a red-robe templar than lose their spymaster.
I thought she was just being silly personally.
Brandon
Yeah actually it was an attempt at humor, given a recent thread that was necroed about the topic of "Find out IC."
I would encourage PCs to give new PCs a chance to acclimate to the game before bombarding them with employment.
ICly such offers would most assuredly not be turned down, thus it puts the player in a bind -- trying to do what is IC vs. trying to wait and get a bit further into character and see what to do next.
Quote from: My 2 sids on October 05, 2009, 03:31:48 PM
I would encourage PCs to give new PCs a chance to acclimate to the game before bombarding them with employment.
ICly such offers would most assuredly not be turned down, thus it puts the player in a bind -- trying to do what is IC vs. trying to wait and get a bit further into character and see what to do next.
I advise every new player that I bring to the game to seek out employment quickly and try and give a brief overview of the samples of work to be found.
They don't always want to do this and if not I do not say it's mandatory but I found for myself it was when I was taken in for employment in this game on an early character that I realized I wasn't playing a crappy single-player MUD wandering the streets of Allanaki.
I don't know, I've always been big on the clans for varying reasons but other then that there are a ton of reasons to turn down employment and if the new player really is new I doubt they will feel put in much of a bind.
Just my thoughts though.
It's a big scary world if you've never played another RPI much less another MUD and it's always nice to have someone take you in under their wing and give you stuff to do/involve you stuff.
Brandon
I'm just saying it's more like power-gaming. You're forcing the other PC into this situation they may or may not have otherwise put themselves into.
Quote from: My 2 sids on October 05, 2009, 03:43:28 PM
I'm just saying it's more like power-gaming. You're forcing the other PC into this situation they may or may not have otherwise put themselves into.
Hrmm... I'm not sure I agree though I do see how it could be construed as such.
I know personally when I've been in the position to hire PCs I'm rather scrupulous in who I bring on as it's a PAIN in the ass (read all caps PAIN) to bring on just mass quantities of PCs, get them situated and never see them again.
There have been times where I've gone out of my way to bring in someone I can tell is BRAND new to Zalanthas and there have been times when it has paid off but I know I'm opening myself up to what could potentially be a LOT of work and a LOT of headache from a RL perspective.
That being said, I think I understand where you are coming from but the leaders who are nambly-pambly running about trying to hire anything that breathes walking around 'nak, Tuluk, or Luir's probably aren't going to inflate their clan in such a way.
So, get to know other PCs before hiring them. Interviewing is a very nice thing and maybe even get another member to sponsor them and speak for them as a potential recruit to the clan.
I don't know. I like seeing new players in clans as it makes me think they are at least having the chance to get involved.
I remember when I made my first account long ago (can't even remember account name or anything) and started up a character I spent a few days wandering aimlessly through 'nak and then quit not to come back for another couple of years. I wonder if I would have done the same if a Kadian Second hunter wouldn't have scooped up a short-lived noob of mine and introduced me that there was stuff going on.
Brandon
P.S. Sorry to ramble.
The tall, muscular man says, in sirihish:
"That's a very interesting and exciting offer, <title of employer>, and I'll think about it."
There's really no way to be sure if a PC is new (you could say newbie clothes; I could recall how many people keep their newbie clothes for days). There is, however, an easy way to politely refuse an offer until you know exactly what you want to do.
Quote from: Cutthroat on October 05, 2009, 04:23:44 PM
The tall, muscular man says, in sirihish:
"That's a very interesting and exciting offer, <title of employer>, and I'll think about it."
There's really no way to be sure if a PC is new (you could say newbie clothes; I could recall how many people keep their newbie clothes for days). There is, however, an easy way to politely refuse an offer until you know exactly what you want to do.
AHH!
I just realized I didn't even read My2Sids post right! I'm sorry, when you said new PCs I read that as new players.
So yes... I'm sorry about all that.
Brandon
Quote from: Cutthroat on October 05, 2009, 04:23:44 PM
The tall, muscular man says, in sirihish:
"That's a very interesting and exciting offer, <title of employer>, and I'll think about it."
There's really no way to be sure if a PC is new (you could say newbie clothes; I could recall how many people keep their newbie clothes for days). There is, however, an easy way to politely refuse an offer until you know exactly what you want to do.
How is there a polite way to respond to your betters declining such an obviously wonderful opportunity? "that's peachy-keen you're offering myself and my loved ones blessings beyond our normal dreams, <title of employer>, but... I think we'll take our chances eaking out a life battling being eaten by dinosaur-sized monsters, unscrupulous murderers/thugs, and the uncertainty of not being able to afford water." "No offense to your generous offer, of course."
Become paranoid, think they're setting you up, and run away screaming.
Have an internal belief that you're just not good enough, and decline, stating that at such time as you believe you've proved yourself, you'll come back and beg for a job.
Be so unworthy and/or disgusting during the interview that they don't want to hire you. Answer their questions wrong, violate social protocol because you're an idiot commoner who doesn't posses the niceties, blow your nose on your sleeve, fart. Confess to being unskilled and bad at previous jobs.
There are plenty of options. They're probably not going to PK you just because they don't hire you.
Quote from: My 2 sids on October 05, 2009, 04:31:18 PM
Quote from: Cutthroat on October 05, 2009, 04:23:44 PM
The tall, muscular man says, in sirihish:
"That's a very interesting and exciting offer, <title of employer>, and I'll think about it."
There's really no way to be sure if a PC is new (you could say newbie clothes; I could recall how many people keep their newbie clothes for days). There is, however, an easy way to politely refuse an offer until you know exactly what you want to do.
How is there a polite way to respond to your betters declining such an obviously wonderful opportunity? "that's peachy-keen you're offering myself and my loved ones blessings beyond our normal dreams, <title of employer>, but... I think we'll take our chances eaking out a life battling being eaten by dinosaur-sized monsters, unscrupulous murderers/thugs, and the uncertainty of not being able to afford water." "No offense to your generous offer, of course."
Don't you think you're stretching things a little bit?
-What if a person has gotten multiple offers?
-What if a person doesn't think they're good enough for the job (yet)?
-What if a person is never going to be good at that job?
-What if a person isn't comfortable around his betters?
There's -plenty- of reasons to decline an offer that is great. There are reasons people don't go to Harvard when they're accepted. There are reasons people donate their lottery winnings to charity. There are reasons to decline a posh Templar concubine, or Noble house guard position.
Sometimes the job being offered just isn't what the player in question is interested in doing. Your dwarf warrior might be better off joining Tor, but you rolled him up to play a raider.
I've never hired anyone unless I had seen them around IG for two RL weeks or more.
That give them the time to decide what they want to do, and lets me know that they at lest half-way know how to stay alive.
I also usually gave them quests to accomplish before I would hire them officially:
Bring me three jozhal hides/10 really big pieces of alabaster/a simple silk dress of your own design.
Stuff like that.
My take on things, plain and simple. I'm certain I missed a bullet point or two, and will probably amend this list later.
In-character reasons for declining an offer for a prestigious position:
- Your character is afraid of making life-long commitments.
- Your character has an unnatural (or perhaps natural?) fear of authority figures.
- Your character has hidden interests that would come into conflict the obligations presented by said position.
- Your character feels that he or she is unworthy of such a position.
- Your character is already living comfortably without the tiny stipend of obsidian coins that most clans offer for wages (assuming wages are offered at all). Often times, even the high cost of food and water does not offset the difference.
Note: This is one of those things in the game that I consider to be "broken", because it is ultimately an IC dilemma that should not exist, but is nonetheless imposed by the coded workings of the game world itself. - Your character is not cut out for the kind of work the position requires, and he or she knows it.
- Your character cannot be bothered by silly things like "schedules" and the like.
In-character reasons for accepting an offer for a prestigious position:
- Your character wants the honor and glory that comes with the job.
- Your character's talents may not be very useful outside of a clan.
- Your character may have a hidden agenda that may only be fulfilled by joining <insert clan here>.
- Your character enjoys the idea of free food and water, as well as a regular stipend (as small as it may be).
Out-of-character reasons for declining an offer for a prestigious position:
- You are an off-peak player, and thus rarely get to interact with your fellow clan-mates.
- You are thrown off by the "wages dilemma" mentioned above.
- Lack of good leadership within <insert clan here>.
- Being limited to a single location, such as a city-state or region (not always applicable).
Out-of-character reasons for accepting an offer for a prestigious position:
- RPTs!
- Clanned characters, as a general rule, tend to be more memorable.
- Presence of good leadership within <insert clan here>.
- Interacting with a regular group of people.
Your offer is generous. Extremely. I am honored. But ... if I'm to become your employ, I will need to put all of myself, all of my effort, all of my time, and all of dedication to make you glad that you've hired me. That ... is a big step. Please forgive me, I will need to think I'm capable of such a thing. Please give me a little time to consider this. I imagine ... a choice like that, is done only once a lifetime. I need to make sure I am ready for such a thing. Thank you though ... I'll find your mind when I made the decision.
Laying in a little bit thick ... a LOT thick. But .. yeah.
I'd like to encourage players of criminally-oriented characters to use the law enforcement to their advantage, instead of just seeing them as an enemy.
I'd like to encourage players involved in law enforcement to be open to bribing, asking for bribes, and threatening to throw some asses into prison if you don't get a bribe.
More characters with smallish mutations that they may hide (or not) depending on how they feel about them.
You know, things like an third nipple, oddly formed genitalia, a birthmark in the form of the symbol of drov on a buttock.
Go for the moderately freaky. Not the way out there.
The buxom, gith-clitted maiden is standing here.
Quote from: Sandstone on October 08, 2009, 02:03:56 PM
More characters with smallish mutations that they may hide (or not) depending on how they feel about them.
You know, things like an third nipple, oddly formed genitalia, a birthmark in the form of the symbol of drov on a buttock.
Go for the moderately freaky. Not the way out there.
>look human
This human has a freaky number of extra nipples.
He is currently naked.
<head> a bunch of nipples
<face> nipple-pimples
<neck> a collar of nipples
<chest> an extra nipple
<arms> nipples
<right hand> an extra nipple
<left hand> three extra nipples
<legs> so many nipples
<feet> nipples where his toenails should be
>feel revolted
Log on.
So much doesn't happen if the people involved aren't around. So many interactions can't take place without the other players. None of it happens if other players don't log onto their characters.
So just log on and play, okay?
I would like to encourage players to focus on the substance of what they are trying to convey in their emotes, tdescs, and descriptions, rather than attempt to impress others with flowery (and often empty) prose that might better suited to poetry than literary fiction. The reason I encourage this? Because, despite our best intentions, the latter can sometimes come off as presumptuous and arrogant to our fellow players.
I am not encourging players to shorten their emotes or limit the use of their vocabulary; there lies great power in words when they are applied judiciously. This is merely a friendly suggestion to keep in mind that your audience will likely have a greater appreciation for what you are trying to say if you omit the unecessary adjectives and clauses in your writings.
On a side note, you may notice that authors who subscribe to this principle tend to write best-sellers more often than their adjective-burdened peers. There are exceptions to this rule, but such authors are typically masters of their art, or specialize in a genre that is more tolerant of showy prose.
I second this. I tend to do really long emotes, but they are seldom 'flowery.' Usually I just describe a lot of different actions, in very simple words.
I realize that many Imms have a 'hands off' approach but I would like to encourage more of them to take part in the RP aspect of Armageddon in regards to animating NPCs. Jump in a random commoner, bartender, pick a NPC you want to bring to life and have fun. Toss out a random room echo about the environment, spawn a cockroach or rat and have fun with it. I know it can have its drawbacks and restrictions (they are out to get me!), I've been on that side, but you guys really have such an awesome ability to bring the world to life.
There are a few Imms right now that seem to enjoy this and to them I give a huge kudos. My favorite part about being on staff was enhancing the experience for the players.
One of my favorite times playing this game was when I had a pc locked up in Luir's and being held for a few RL days (that kinda sucked) and an imm took the time to run a cockroach that my lonely pc was interacting with in his cell.
Quote from: Gargath on October 14, 2009, 11:33:03 AM
I realize that many Imms have a 'hands off' approach but I would like to encourage more of them to take part in the RP aspect of Armageddon in regards to animating NPCs. Jump in a random commoner, bartender, pick a NPC you want to bring to life and have fun. Toss out a random room echo about the environment, spawn a cockroach or rat and have fun with it. I know it can have its drawbacks and restrictions (they are out to get me!), I've been on that side, but you guys really have such an awesome ability to bring the world to life.
There are a few Imms right now that seem to enjoy this and to them I give a huge kudos. My favorite part about being on staff was enhancing the experience for the players.
I second this encouragement. It's too IC to relay the specifics, but suffice it to say that an immortal rescently turned a "this is pretty cool" solo RP scene into an "OMFG WTF THIS IS AWESOME" scene for me. I sent them a kudos.
More people to pay attention to FASHION.
In Tuluk, what is the most popular bard wearing? I know red and white are always in, but that gets BORING after a while. Follow the Kadian fashion!
And PLEASE don't get pissy at the Kadian or bard for turning up their nose at your clothes, or suggestion what might work better on you. That's how things are. Esp with a Kadian.
As for Nak.... Well, there's no more Fales to set the fashion trend and give commoners make-overs. No idea what to tell you guys. Hide in His Shadow. :-D
I'd like to encourage people to take the virtual world more into consideration. There may be no PCs in that tavern, but it's still chock full of NPCs and VNPCs. There aren't any NPCs in that stretch of road between home and work, but the road is bustling with VNPC pedestrians. So by all means, feel free to emote something like squeezing past that VNPC half-giant hunter who is ignoring your tiny human PC that is trying to get through the doorway, or stepping aside for a VNPC noble and his virtual entourage walking down the street. Little things like that add to the flavor or your roleplay, and give you a little something extra to do when you're tooling around solo.
What it (Niamh) said.
Also, I would like to encourage PCs to pick up hobbies or something to do during their downtimes, especially when (you think) you are alone. I guarantee that this will make solo RP easier, and your character seem more rounded.
(And yes, solo RP is like masturbation, but who doesn't love masturbation?)
Pickpockets. If you see me tottering about with my bag full of goods open, or coin in places you can access, take a chance! I promise, promise, promise I won't kill you. I won't even give much of a chase or demand a manhunt. I swear it.
If I'm being so insecure with my property, it means I'm deliberately doing it for the shadies. In fact, you should all assume this, of anyone. Not just me.
Quote from: Jdr on October 19, 2009, 05:13:46 AM
Pickpockets. If you see me tottering about with my bag full of goods open, or coin in places you can access, take a chance! I promise, promise, promise I won't kill you. I won't even give much of a chase or demand a manhunt. I swear it.
If I'm being so insecure with my property, it means I'm deliberately doing it for the shadies. In fact, you should all assume this, of anyone. Not just me.
Except the part about assuming that you won't give much of a chase or demand a manhunt, it's probably better not to assume that of everyone.
Quote from: musashi on October 19, 2009, 05:27:42 AM
Quote from: Jdr on October 19, 2009, 05:13:46 AM
Pickpockets. If you see me tottering about with my bag full of goods open, or coin in places you can access, take a chance! I promise, promise, promise I won't kill you. I won't even give much of a chase or demand a manhunt. I swear it.
If I'm being so insecure with my property, it means I'm deliberately doing it for the shadies. In fact, you should all assume this, of anyone. Not just me.
Except the part about assuming that you won't give much of a chase or demand a manhunt, it's probably better not to assume that of everyone.
If only pickpockets could get a few NPC soldiers to say this.
Trust that if you have not been nicked then it is only that someone next to you was more desirable. Give it time.
I had a character once who should have been the prize of every PP out there.
NEVER had anything come up missing, though. :(
I agree with JDR.
I've only been pick-pocketed when my character was sleeping. =/
Quote from: hyzhenhok on October 20, 2009, 01:35:36 PM
I've only been pick-pocketed when my character was sleeping. =/
That was most likely one of the many poor citizens of Zalanthas then and not an actual pick-pocket. =P
I would like to encourage more bearded women and men wearing dresses to put an end to this gender role situation.
Quote from: Rhyden on October 20, 2009, 01:54:20 PM
I would like to encourage more bearded women and men wearing dresses to put an end to this gender role situation.
I'd like to encourage Rhyden's gender manifesto.
I'd like to encourage more shirtless women, men afraid to take their shirt off, and elves that look neither male nor female to a human's eye.
Quote from: Gunnerblaster on October 20, 2009, 01:44:40 PM
Quote from: hyzhenhok on October 20, 2009, 01:35:36 PM
I've only been pick-pocketed when my character was sleeping. =/
That was most likely one of the many poor citizens of Zalanthas then and not an actual pick-pocket. =P
I can't say I really know how the code works too well, so whatever. I'd hope that it requires some degree of skill to steal from someone who's sleeping in a common sleeping area, though. Though that probably means the hide skill, meaning not pick-pockets. ;)
I'd like to encourage players to take chances with the way they express their characters, both stylistically and emotionally. My style of emoting may be best for me, while yours is entirely different - which is a good thing. The same can be said for speech patterns, preferred psychological make-ups, and so on. Push that envelop, and don't worry so much about things like perfect spelling or appeasing another's sense of what "good" role-play is. Armageddon can be like an adult playpen. Create, explore, and have fun!
Quote from: hyzhenhok on October 20, 2009, 10:35:44 PM
Quote from: Gunnerblaster on October 20, 2009, 01:44:40 PM
Quote from: hyzhenhok on October 20, 2009, 01:35:36 PM
I've only been pick-pocketed when my character was sleeping. =/
That was most likely one of the many poor citizens of Zalanthas then and not an actual pick-pocket. =P
I can't say I really know how the code works too well, so whatever. I'd hope that it requires some degree of skill to steal from someone who's sleeping in a common sleeping area, though. Though that probably means the hide skill, meaning not pick-pockets. ;)
stealing from sleeping folks is automatic win. However stealing from awake folks is either win, lose and don't get crim flagged or lose and half the city turns against you.
Look at people before you start interacting with them. My characters tend to change clothes, depending on the occasion. Sometimes even disguise themselves. If I'm wearing a wig and kohl, and silk when I usually wear sandcloth.... You likely don't recognize me.
Plus I know a lot of people have been using tdesc. Don't forget to look at that as well!!
Quote from: tortall on October 21, 2009, 03:23:20 PM
Look at people before you start interacting with them. My characters tend to change clothes, depending on the occasion. Sometimes even disguise themselves. If I'm wearing a wig and kohl, and silk when I usually wear sandcloth.... You likely don't recognize me.
Plus I know a lot of people have been using tdesc. Don't forget to look at that as well!!
I second this. I try to look at everyone I interact with every time. Even those that I've run into a thousand times.
Quote from: tortall on October 21, 2009, 03:23:20 PM
Look at people before you start interacting with them. My characters tend to change clothes, depending on the occasion. Sometimes even disguise themselves. If I'm wearing a wig and kohl, and silk when I usually wear sandcloth.... You likely don't recognize me.
Plus I know a lot of people have been using tdesc. Don't forget to look at that as well!!
I do... I just wish look without a modifier didn't echo to anyone but the person they looked at.
Brandon
God, first people complain that look is used too much...now that it is not used enough.
My PC (current) Rarely looks at other PCs...he simply does not care enough about any of you.
Quote from: X-D on October 21, 2009, 05:11:52 PM
God, first people complain that look is used too much...now that it is not used enough.
My PC (current) Rarely looks at other PCs...he simply does not care enough about any of you.
I think people were complaining about the echo, not so much the actual look. Though I agree it shouldn't echo. :-p
I've said this before, but I'll bring it up again.
Use hemote and watch more. It's amazing how much people miss sometimes. If you're talking to someone and focusing mostly on them, WATCH them. Just getting the wach echo prompts many to use hemote.
Quote from: tortall on October 21, 2009, 05:36:26 PM
Use hemote and watch more.
I've thought about doing the latter more.
Then I wondered if people will then start complaining about there been too many 'watch' echoes, similar to the complaints about the 'look' echoes.
::)
Quote from: HTX on October 21, 2009, 08:48:05 PM
Quote from: tortall on October 21, 2009, 05:36:26 PM
Use hemote and watch more.
I've thought about doing the latter more.
Then I wondered if people will then start complaining about there been too many 'watch' echoes, similar to the complaints about the 'look' echoes.
::)
I always feel oddly flattered when I notice other PCs watching mine. Like they think I'm
interesting or something.
I watch other PCs in the hope that they will then be inspired to hemote, and then they usually don't, and I'm disappointed :(
Quote from: Spice Spice Baby on October 21, 2009, 08:49:48 PM
I always feel oddly flattered when I notice other PCs watching mine. Like they think I'm interesting or something.
Heh, same here. It's like, "awww, cool."
Quote from: Zoltan on October 21, 2009, 09:03:57 PM
Quote from: Spice Spice Baby on October 21, 2009, 08:49:48 PM
I always feel oddly flattered when I notice other PCs watching mine. Like they think I'm interesting or something.
Heh, same here. It's like, "awww, cool."
The only reason, when I notice people watching me, is usually because they suspect I'm up to good.
Unfortunately, it's usually true. ;)
Quote from: Gimfalisette on October 21, 2009, 08:52:58 PM
I watch other PCs in the hope that they will then be inspired to hemote, and then they usually don't, and I'm disappointed :(
I think people mud sexing/ or eluding to it should watch each other and hemote, as well.. I mean love making and making out is an art of both obviousness ans subtlety.
this also works when your pc and his mate encounter another pc, you and your mate hemote sign conversation about the new pc...
Quote from: Potaje on October 22, 2009, 10:22:01 PM
Quote from: Gimfalisette on October 21, 2009, 08:52:58 PM
I watch other PCs in the hope that they will then be inspired to hemote, and then they usually don't, and I'm disappointed :(
I think people mud sexing/ or eluding to it should watch each other and hemote, as well.. I mean love making and making out is an art of both obviousness ans subtlety.
this also works when your pc and his mate encounter another pc, you and your mate hemote sign conversation about the new pc...
hemo reaches a finger around to probe at ^potaje backside.
think Don't stop me, don't stop me!!! :-\
Quote from: musashi on October 22, 2009, 10:35:32 PM
Quote from: Potaje on October 22, 2009, 10:22:01 PM
Quote from: Gimfalisette on October 21, 2009, 08:52:58 PM
I watch other PCs in the hope that they will then be inspired to hemote, and then they usually don't, and I'm disappointed :(
I think people mud sexing/ or eluding to it should watch each other and hemote, as well.. I mean love making and making out is an art of both obviousness ans subtlety.
this also works when your pc and his mate encounter another pc, you and your mate hemote sign conversation about the new pc...
hemo reaches a finger around to probe at ^potaje backside.
think Don't stop me, don't stop me!!!
:-\
Man, you'd be surprised how much people miss during mudsex. I laugh. C'mon people! Experience the full feelings!
Oh, and don't forget to use think and feel during mudsex too! It's great RP, after all.
Hey, not everyone wants to look closely at whoever's warming their night.
Quote from: Ocotillo on October 23, 2009, 10:55:13 AM
Hey, not everyone wants to look closely at whoever's warming their night.
This should be cited as another reason in favor of mdesc-concealing hoods and other objects.
The male wearing a brown paper bag rolls over and starts to snore.
Look at the person before you start acting like Billy Badass.
To many times have I seen players start talking shit to the absolute wrong person and when you LOOK at them, they are way more important than what their sdesc describes. Many people with high social standing or rank or importance, LOOK the park.
(Could save your life too.)
I'd like people to encourage reading descriptions, room descriptions, item descriptions, tattoo descriptions, the descriptions of items that people wear... you'd be amazed at what you miss. Seriously. There are NPCs with normal descriptions and equipment, but if you look at a blue hat you learn that they are actually mages of doom.
Less mudsex, go tavern sit instead.
Go tavern sex and get the best of both.
I think you boys just aren't getting it.
Quote from: Gimfalisette on October 23, 2009, 09:13:00 PM
I think you boys just aren't getting it.
Well, obviously, if they're in the taverns, while everyone else is back in the apartments :P
Im not getting it because I don't enjoy it. I find it more than pointless, kind of sad. I can't help but picture what might be on the other end of the internet connection.
Quote from: musashi on October 23, 2009, 09:02:28 PM
Go tavern sex and get the best of both.
Tried and true.
No dude, the Tooth all the way. Storm's End is good, too.
I've never actually had any PC of mine spend any length of time in the Gaj at all, I'm a Tuluki at heart, and can't bear to start the game with a southern accent.
... But I talk tons of shit anyway ;)
Quote from: Gimfalisette on October 24, 2009, 01:18:09 AM
No dude, the Tooth all the way. Storm's End is good, too.
>em marks the Gaj and Tooth off of his list.
EDIT: >em marks off Storm's End too.
Quote from: Dan on October 23, 2009, 09:22:14 PM
Im not getting it because I don't enjoy it. I find it more than pointless, kind of sad. I can't help but picture what might be on the other end of the internet connection.
I don't mind mudsex. Let people do what they find necessary, right?
What I would like to encourage though, is more general "being available" if you find yourself isolated in a generally non-iso role. It sucks when you are trying to find a pair (or more) of people, and they're obviously mudsexing because they send a telepathic message like "*feelings of pleasure seep into the telepathic link* How are you?" And then you try to find them the day after, and it's the same thing. And it happens over and over.
But mudsex isn't the only thing that isolates. I guess what I would like to say is...
"I would like to encourage active idling (like watching the screen. and solo RP) in taverns if you are bored - instead of inactive idling (not watching the screen) in an apartment/clan compound, or doing repetitive activities like mudsex or crafting."
I had a PC that masturbated so much the imms told my PC's boss, who told my PC to stop masturbating in the barracks. Some of the Ways done led to some hilarious interaction.
I don't think enough people masturbate, so I'm gonna have to encourage that one.
While thinks and feels are great, don't expect staff to be watching you if you're spending a lot of time mudsexing. While I can't speak for other staff, I personally will stop watching when I find someone sexing it up.
Quote from: Niamh on October 24, 2009, 11:06:44 AM
While thinks and feels are great, don't expect staff to be watching you if you're spending a lot of time mudsexing. While I can't speak for other staff, I personally will stop watching when I find someone sexing it up.
Now you all know why they don't watch you with your review flag on...lol.
Seriously though, I never really got the point of mudsexing beyond, "OOC Fade to Black, gave you the best time of your life."
In fact I've had chicks (or dudes playing chicks) get mad at me for fading to black. I just gotta say, for all the many things I enjoy in Arm, I prefer real sex to make believe and find it slightly friggin wierd personally.
Quote from: Niamh on October 24, 2009, 11:06:44 AM
While thinks and feels are great, don't expect staff to be watching you if you're spending a lot of time mudsexing. While I can't speak for other staff, I personally will stop watching when I find someone sexing it up.
Y'all need a way of filtering out all the scary command emotes without missing the pillow talk.
Quote from: musashi on October 23, 2009, 09:02:28 PM
Go tavern sex and get the best of both.
Or better yet.... DO something.
Quote from: brytta.leofa on October 24, 2009, 01:27:06 PM
Quote from: Niamh on October 24, 2009, 11:06:44 AM
While thinks and feels are great, don't expect staff to be watching you if you're spending a lot of time mudsexing. While I can't speak for other staff, I personally will stop watching when I find someone sexing it up.
Y'all need a way of filtering out all the scary command emotes without missing the pillow talk.
Ideally, if it's important it should get emailed to clan staff in a report. Minus the sexy emotes, that is.
Quote from: Is Friday on October 24, 2009, 09:09:04 AM
I had a PC that masturbated so much the imms told my PC's boss, who told my PC to stop masturbating in the barracks. Some of the Ways done led to some hilarious interaction.
I don't think enough people masturbate, so I'm gonna have to encourage that one.
This ... has made my day.
I'd like to encourage people to keep this in mind:
Zagu-La - A person suffering from any number of the symptoms of genital itching, pus filled urine, irritating groin rash, or genital sores is generally said to have Zagu-La. Also called Crotch Rot by the lowest classes, this extraordinarily common affliction is spread sexually, and, some scholars and physicians argue, is likely Zalanthas's most prevalent ailment. There are almost as many treatments to prevent or cure this self limited condition as there are sands in the Red Desert, particularly among those in the sex trade. The measures include various charmed body tattoos, wooden talismans, and in Allanak the practice of eating one rotten fruit a week.
Quote from: Niamh on October 24, 2009, 08:59:30 PM
I'd like to encourage people to keep this in mind:
Zagu-La - A person suffering from any number of the symptoms of genital itching, pus filled urine, irritating groin rash, or genital sores is generally said to have Zagu-La. Also called Crotch Rot by the lowest classes, this extraordinarily common affliction is spread sexually, and, some scholars and physicians argue, is likely Zalanthas's most prevalent ailment. There are almost as many treatments to prevent or cure this self limited condition as there are sands in the Red Desert, particularly among those in the sex trade. The measures include various charmed body tattoos, wooden talismans, and in Allanak the practice of eating one rotten fruit a week. [/b]
Sounds like Olgaris needs to write up another script ....
Quote from: musashi on October 24, 2009, 09:01:34 PM
Quote from: Niamh on October 24, 2009, 08:59:30 PM
I'd like to encourage people to keep this in mind:
Zagu-La - A person suffering from any number of the symptoms of genital itching, pus filled urine, irritating groin rash, or genital sores is generally said to have Zagu-La. Also called Crotch Rot by the lowest classes, this extraordinarily common affliction is spread sexually, and, some scholars and physicians argue, is likely Zalanthas's most prevalent ailment. There are almost as many treatments to prevent or cure this self limited condition as there are sands in the Red Desert, particularly among those in the sex trade. The measures include various charmed body tattoos, wooden talismans, and in Allanak the practice of eating one rotten fruit a week. [/b]
Sounds like Olgaris needs to write up another script ....
Randomly attached to players that staff stop monitoring.
Someone should play an f-me PC and send in the list of who they've boinked to staff for scripting.
That would be teh awesome.
How about this gem?
QuoteLover's Bleed - Well known to be spread sexually, this affliction manifests as bloody urine, pelvic pain, and a red, itchy rash on the thighs. Those rare few who don't improve over a matter of days will note that their volume of urine gradually decreases over the course of weeks, until they can no longer urinate. After the cessation of urination, the victim grows slowly but progressively confused and then comatose, before inevitably dying. Those in the sex trade often use various fragrant salves applied daily to the genitals to prevent this common disease.
Bloody urine. Sounds totally worth it.
Quote from: brytta.leofa on October 24, 2009, 09:22:38 PM
Quote from: musashi on October 24, 2009, 09:01:34 PM
Quote from: Niamh on October 24, 2009, 08:59:30 PM
I'd like to encourage people to keep this in mind:
Zagu-La - A person suffering from any number of the symptoms of genital itching, pus filled urine, irritating groin rash, or genital sores is generally said to have Zagu-La. Also called Crotch Rot by the lowest classes, this extraordinarily common affliction is spread sexually, and, some scholars and physicians argue, is likely Zalanthas's most prevalent ailment. There are almost as many treatments to prevent or cure this self limited condition as there are sands in the Red Desert, particularly among those in the sex trade. The measures include various charmed body tattoos, wooden talismans, and in Allanak the practice of eating one rotten fruit a week. [/b]
Sounds like Olgaris needs to write up another script ....
Randomly attached to players that staff stop monitoring.
'Krath sickness is scripted, so why not this? People are too concerned about "winning" the sex-everyone-in-the-Known-World game to be trusted to play these out realistically, let alone make the conscious choice to HAVE such an affliction.
Seems like there wouldn't be a easy way to script that beyond having staff manually attach it to folks. We have no mudsex skills that I'm aware off.
Quote from: musashi on October 26, 2009, 02:15:41 AM
Seems like there wouldn't be a easy way to script that beyond having staff manually attach it to folks. We have no mudsex skills that I'm aware off.
That would likely be the case.
Quote from: Aaron Goulet on October 26, 2009, 02:47:13 AM
Quote from: musashi on October 26, 2009, 02:15:41 AM
Seems like there wouldn't be a easy way to script that beyond having staff manually attach it to folks. We have no mudsex skills that I'm aware off.
That would likely be the case.
Implement mudsex skills, then implement scripted STDs.
Problem solved!
- Bushranger.
I remember once sticking a sliver of bone, soaked in bimbal juice inside some fellow's thingie, to cure his problems. I dont remember if it helped, but I dont think he figured out if I did it just to mess with him, or did I really mean to cure him with that.
Quote from: Aaron Goulet on October 26, 2009, 02:47:13 AM
Quote from: musashi on October 26, 2009, 02:15:41 AM
Seems like there wouldn't be a easy way to script that beyond having staff manually attach it to folks. We have no mudsex skills that I'm aware off.
That would likely be the case.
I've had staff attach some of that stuff to my chars before. Only, little research was done, and apparently it came from none of the PCs she was with, since NONE of them had/got it.
Was AWESOME to RP though. Kudos to you imms. Just look into who ELSE should have it as well. ;-) That's my encouragement.
One of them was a carrier, and the others were immune. Or maybe you exposed all of them but you were the only one who ever had any symptoms. Lots and lots and lots of real-world illnesses work that way. Maybe your character inherited it from one of your birth-parents, and your character simply didn't display any symptoms until her body had the right mixture of catalyst from multiple partners.
My encouragement is for people to learn to take hints, especially when they're bludgeoned over the head with them.
More honest encouragement of good rp. Less using the GDB as a means of sniping at other players. Keep the snide for IG, please.
Quote from: deviant storm on October 26, 2009, 07:19:51 PM
More honest encouragement of good rp. Less using the GDB as a means of sniping at other players. Keep the snide for IG, please.
I've been debating locking both of these threads for exactly that reason. "I'd like to encourage people to <do something I saw someone not do and it pisses me off/not do something I saw someone do and it pisses me off>" is not exactly encouraging, it's bitch-cake with icing.
Quote from: Nyr on October 26, 2009, 07:42:29 PM
Quote from: deviant storm on October 26, 2009, 07:19:51 PM
More honest encouragement of good rp. Less using the GDB as a means of sniping at other players. Keep the snide for IG, please.
I've been debating locking both of these threads for exactly that reason. "I'd like to encourage people to <do something I saw someone not do and it pisses me off/not do something I saw someone do and it pisses me off>" is not exactly encouraging, it's bitch-cake with icing.
I agree, for the most part, and it sucks, because it needn't be that way, with the addition of a little positive positioning and a better choice of words.
Quote from: Nyr on October 26, 2009, 07:42:29 PM
it's bitch-cake with icing.
I'm going to start using that phrase. Awesome, Nyr.
Quote from: deviant storm on October 26, 2009, 07:19:51 PM
More honest encouragement of good rp. Less using the GDB as a means of sniping at other players. Keep the snide for IG, please.
+1
If you'd like to encourage another player, please send a player kudos.
Locking this thread.