RL to Sirihish slang

[SMuz]

Was going to ask a helper for translation, but might as well start a new thread just for everyone to know

Copper (color, e.g. copper hair, copper-toned) = ?
"My skills are getting rusty" = ?
deja vu = ? (Allundean term?)

[Rhyden]

Copper (color, e.g. copper hair, copper-toned) = ?

I've used copper before and seen others use it before. Same goes with bronze, iron, steel, etc. in descriptions. It would be a rarer word to describe something when spoken. You could use brown as replacement for copper. Maybe brownish-red? Tan?

"My skills are getting rusty" = ?

Tough one. Maybe use 'dusty' instead?

deja vu = ? (Allundean term?)

Tricky. I don't know many other words that describe deja vu. You could say 'something I'd already seen', but deja vu has a better connotative feel to it, irl. I'm not sure how many other french-english words are used in Armageddon. Can't think of any off the top of my head, but I bet there's one or two.

[Yokunama]

"My skills are getting rusty" = ?

My skills are getting dull.

[Agent_137]

rusty = shitty

[Ashes]

As he works his light bone sparring sword through a series of stiff maneuvers, the grizzled, scruffy-bearded man says, in sirihish:
                                                                     "Feels like a necker shit on m'sword arm while ah've been away."

[Cutthroat]

Copper (color, e.g. copper hair, copper-toned) = ?

I've used copper before and seen others use it before. Same goes with bronze, iron, steel, etc. in descriptions. It would be a rarer word to describe something when spoken. You could use brown as replacement for copper. Maybe brownish-red? Tan?

I mostly agree with everyone in the thread so far, but I think using "copper" in speech is alright. If your character is from either of the two major cities you've likely seen (or heard) some things made of copper constructed around the city. Others would probably at least hear what copper looks like, though they've never seen it themselves. Most would know a war was fought over it.

[Voular]

Allanak has a huge steel dragon outside it's gates. Most nobles and templars wear silver. Certain characters have toted around various forms of metal items in the past and probably present. (both PC and NPCs). There was a huge war faught over metal, I suspect many soldiers/aides/assassins would at least know how to identify it easily. It's a stuff of legend, and I am sure every child wants to go stare at the steel dragon or ring certain copper bells over and over again.

But of course, no one would be dumb enough to let anything "rust" in this world by purpose.. But there are "rust coloured" things everywhere, to describe the colour rust - I don't think the word is to jarring.. But in the sense that you're getting rusty might be pushing it a bit for immersion. But hey. Whatever floats your skimmer.

[Marauder Moe]

I think most city commoners know the common words for metal.

Just remember that if using them as part of a colloquialism, keep in mind that all types of metal carry a connotation of inherent value and rarity much greater than even the usage of "gold" does in our language.  Describing someone as having copper hair would be very flattering.

However, "cold as steel" would not make sense as most people will never touch metal and even if they did it would be unlikely to feel cold.  Also, references to metallic weapons would also be unusual, like "draw steel" or "cross steel".  I don't think too many commoners would be aware of the physical properties of metal constructs either.  "Hard as iron" wouldn't make sense to most people.

Given Zalanthas's lack of moisture I think that rust is going to be extremely rare, and probably not part of most people's vocabulary.


As for deja vu, well, there's no reason every language will inevitably have a specific word to describe that phenomenon.  Heck, English doesn't even have such a word as evidenced by the fact we had to steal a French one.

[tortall]

IMO, with making descriptions, those are there for the PLAYER to understand what the CHARACTER is seeing. Yes, there are some words that I find jarring, but for the most part, use what word you think would best describe your character. It's for the PLAYER, not the CHARACTER.

[Shalooonsh]

The problem with rust is that it is virtually non existent in Zalanthas.

Rust requires hydration.  Without hydration, it does not occur.  Much like fire requires heat, fuel, and oxygen and if you remove one of the three fire will not function without additional chemical stimuli (as with magnesium, which will burn underwater by separating the hydrogen and oxygen atoms.)

As you may have noticed, water is a bit scarce on Zalanthas.  Even if you got a team of vivaduans (kudos to anyone who tries this IG (kidding!)) to dump water on the Dragon Statue for a King's Age straight, most likely there would be very little rusting that occurs, simply because the atmosphere surrounding the metal would suck away the water almost as quickly as it could be formed (and we'll not even enter the fact that that statue is likely hot enough to turn water to steam instantly during mid day).

What all this means is that saying you're 'rusty' is just the equivalent of saying you're kind of brownish red... which makes absolutely no sense.  The references to rust colored whatevers is simply a mention of color.  It has no significance what-so-ever with being less skillful, off your game, or any of the associated meanings that rusty has in our RL lives.

IMHO (and this is not staff opinion), using the word 'dim' is a lot more suiting.  "My sword skills are a bit dim today."  Light levels are something that every Zalanthan understands, but using the word 'shade' (or any derivative) would just not be fitting, since shade is commonly regarded as a good thing.  A dim glow crystal, however, has the exact opposite meaning... especially if you are A Place You Should Not Be (tm) which is also dark.

[Marauder Moe]

IMO, with making descriptions, those are there for the PLAYER to understand what the CHARACTER is seeing. Yes, there are some words that I find jarring, but for the most part, use what word you think would best describe your character. It's for the PLAYER, not the CHARACTER.

Who's talking about descriptions? 

[Shalooonsh]

IMO, with making descriptions, those are there for the PLAYER to understand what the CHARACTER is seeing. Yes, there are some words that I find jarring, but for the most part, use what word you think would best describe your character. It's for the PLAYER, not the CHARACTER.

Who's talking about descriptions? 

For my understanding, no one.  To rerail, this thread is about slang.

[rishenko]

Was going to ask a helper for translation, but might as well start a new thread just for everyone to know

Copper (color, e.g. copper hair, copper-toned) = ?
"My skills are getting rusty" = ?
deja vu = ? (Allundean term?)

Simple word replacements:
rusty = dim
rusty = shitty
rusty = sandy:  Sand overtakes everything, builds up over time and is a fucking pain in the ass to the eyes and movements.  Sandy makes a great replacement.

deja vu = Whira's flash:  Since Whira is luck, randomness, and a fickle wind, I could easily see somebody comparing a happenstance or "seen again" to a brief flash of Whira.
deja vu = corden dak:  Just make shit up and when somebody asks, "wtf mate?", say you heard it off a tribal and explain it as you see fit.
deja vu = Whoa.  (Hey, worked for Neo)

Longer replacements:
rusty = Been so long, I'm now swinging like a Kadian in heat.
rusty = You'd think my fuckin' sword arm was swapped with a drunk Bynner's!
rusty = Gah, lost the touch, arm's full of sand and shit these days.

[Ampere]

Deja vu isn't slang.

[Shalooonsh]

Deja vu isn't slang.

That's true, it's not slang.  However, no matter how much we all think it is, Tuluk is not France.

[NoteworthyFellow]

I like rishenko's idea to use "Whira's flash" instead of deja vu.  Whereas I'm okay with using most foreign loanwords in-game (I made a thread about this some many months ago), deja vu does seem a little over-the-line.  "Whira's flash," on the other hand, or something else related to Whira, fits right in with elemental superstitions and sounds both Zalanthan and catchy.  I dig it.

[Jdr]

I use dusty instead of rusty.

[Ourla]

I like rishenko's idea to use "Whira's flash" instead of deja vu.  Whereas I'm okay with using most foreign loanwords in-game (I made a thread about this some many months ago), deja vu does seem a little over-the-line.  "Whira's flash," on the other hand, or something else related to Whira, fits right in with elemental superstitions and sounds both Zalanthan and catchy.  I dig it.

I'd like to see someone in Tuluk professing they were experiencing a 'flash of Whira.'   

[Synthesis]

In a world of magick and psionics, I'd expect deja vu to be more associated with psionic activity than with the wind element.

[Delstro]

Deja vu- Running Skinny/Short Dwarf

I just had a running skinny!

I feel like I've already seen this skinny.

[Malken]

Deja vu isn't slang.

That's true, it's not slang.  However, no matter how much we all think it is, Tuluk is not France.

Nor is it Britain. I'm sure that sirihish has a translation for "Deja Vu" just like it does for every other English words we use in game.

[Jingo]

Rederail:

I think rust should be in the game. A powerful Nilazi should totally be able to make metal turn into rust.

[Synthesis]

Rederail:

I think rust should be in the game. A powerful Nilazi should totally be able to make metal turn into rust.

What exactly does void have to do with rust?

[Jdr]

Entropy I guess?

[rishenko]

I like rishenko's idea to use "Whira's flash" instead of deja vu.  Whereas I'm okay with using most foreign loanwords in-game (I made a thread about this some many months ago), deja vu does seem a little over-the-line.  "Whira's flash," on the other hand, or something else related to Whira, fits right in with elemental superstitions and sounds both Zalanthan and catchy.  I dig it.

I'd like to see someone in Tuluk professing they were experiencing a 'flash of Whira.'   

You mean like somebody having Krath's Touch?