Conditionally populated rooms - Discussion

[Morgenes]

Use this thread to discuss the Staff Announcement about 'Conditionally populated rooms'

Edited to include link to announcement post.

[Krath]

Badass!

[Sephiroto]

Rowar!  Yes!

[brytta.leofa]

Morgenes, I'll do anything you want.  Anything.

[Cutthroat]

Awesome.

Morgenes, I'll do anything you want.  Anything.

[brytta.leofa]

Now, as somebody's suggested: if this leads to people spamwalking everywhere after dark, that's probably not optimal.  Though the movement delay may be enough for the alert mugger.

[Desertman]

This rocks so hard.

[Zoan]

Looks like the PC Militia might actually see some crime to fight now!

[manonfire]

If you commit a crime in a room with an NPC soldier/templar, will you still get flagged?

Ohh, how I love the implications of this.

[brytta.leofa]

And the wave of half-giant warrior/thug apps begins...

As well as nighttime sweeps by the PC militia...of areas frequented by the upper crust.

[Delstro]

I just got a concussion from how hard I hit my head on the ceiling when I jumped for joy at this new code change.

[Morgenes]

If you commit a crime in a room with an NPC soldier/templar, will you still get flagged?

As stated, this does not change how the code works with regards to NPC soldiers/templars.  If they are in the room, and can witness the crime, they will incriminate you.

[manonfire]

If you commit a crime in a room with an NPC soldier/templar, will you still get flagged?

As stated, this does not change how the code works with regards to NPC soldiers/templars.  If they are in the room, and can witness the crime, they will incriminate you.

You're right, it states that explicitly.

See what happens when you excite players? Reading comprehension goes to shit.

[nyrk]

If you commit a crime in a room with an NPC soldier/templar, will you still get flagged?

As stated, this does not change how the code works with regards to NPC soldiers/templars.  If they are in the room, and can witness the crime, they will incriminate you.

So if you light a torch, does the vis of the room goes to good, and you can be crim-flagged?

[Reiloth]

I just shat everywhere.

[Qzzrbl]

If you commit a crime in a room with an NPC soldier/templar, will you still get flagged?

As stated, this does not change how the code works with regards to NPC soldiers/templars.  If they are in the room, and can witness the crime, they will incriminate you.

So if you light a torch, does the vis of the room goes to good, and you can be crim-flagged?

From my understanding, if it's late at night or before dawn, and if no guards or templars are present, you can pretty much do whatever you want without fear of crim code, torch or not.

If it's daytime, and you find a dark room to murder someone in, and you light a torch beforehand, I'm pretty sure you'll wind up flagged.

[palomar]

I like it. However, I think there are rooms that could be considered to be populated during the dark hours (some parts of commons and bazaars come to mind). And I mean populated enough to be part of the crime code.

[Bogre]

Awesome.

[Morgenes]

So if you light a torch, does the vis of the room goes to good, and you can be crim-flagged?

Sorry, I realize that the post isn't really clear.  The two points are in an 'or' relationship.  If the visibility is bad OR it's late at night OR it's before dawn.

To specifically answer your question, if you have a torch out and it's late at night or before dawn, the 'populated' room flag won't incriminate you.

If for whatever reason the visibility is poor and you somehow correct it, and it's NOT night time, you will be incriminated.

[nyrk]

So if you light a torch, does the vis of the room goes to good, and you can be crim-flagged?

Sorry, I realize that the post isn't really clear.  The two points are in an 'or' relationship.  If the visibility is bad OR it's late at night OR it's before dawn.

To specifically answer your question, if you have a torch out and it's late at night or before dawn, the 'populated' room flag won't incriminate you.

If for whatever reason the visibility is poor and you somehow correct it, and it's NOT night time, you will be incriminated.

OK, so effectively the virtual population all goes home at night.

[mattrious]

So. Can I use this thread to start recruiting for the 'Rinth and its shady organizations? Seriously, this is a huge and awesome change for the bad guys!! Woot!

- matt.

[Desertman]

Makes perfect sense to me.

Criminals mug people at night because of the low visibility and reduced chance of getting caught as such, IRL.

Should be the same way in game.

We also have sandstorms that cut visibility and they are frequent, it wouldnt take criminals long to figure out thats a good time to mug folks too.

I love this idea. I absolutely love it.

This will probably keep pc templars from stacking 15 npc soldiers from around the city at "crim points." Because the soldiers are actually needed in other areas now.

I also cant WAIT to see the organized PC gangs roaming the night darkened streets looking for would be victims, the way I have always imagined the rough streets of Zalanthas should be.

[brytta.leofa]

I also can't WAIT to see the organized PC gangs roaming the night darkened streets looking for would be victims, the way I have always imagined the rough streets of Zalanthas should be.

Oh, this.  I once wanted to play a southside thug, but that's just not a very viable role.


Another concern, though: impending NPC slaughter if they don't know to go indoors at night.

[Desertman]

Another concern, though: impending NPC slaughter if they don't know to go indoors at night.

I didnt think about this.

I would hate for the Commons to suddenly have corpses laying everywhere...like another place already that I wont mention

[Reiloth]

I also can't WAIT to see the organized PC gangs roaming the night darkened streets looking for would be victims, the way I have always imagined the rough streets of Zalanthas should be.

Oh, this.  I once wanted to play a southside thug, but that's just not a very viable role.


Another concern, though: impending NPC slaughter if they don't know to go indoors at night.

That would probably lead to impending PC slaughter, when the Militia finds out who dunnit. And they will find out.

I'm also sure IMM's will keep a close watch on this topside, to make sure twinky twinks don't get their rocks off hacking and slashing.

I think this change is fuggin' awesome.