Bringing animals into town.

[EvilRoeSlade]

Do you think ANYONE would try this in real life?

[Kill4Free]

Ever heard of a guard dog, dude

[EvilRoeSlade]

Ever heard of a guard dog, dude :P

Guard dogs are trained animals.

[Kill4Free]

Lots are only loyal to the master, they attack everything else.  And if you read everything, I did plan to train the raptor.

[Agent_137]

kill4free, i reccomend talking to the immortals on this one.

EMAIL the mud account! Don't listen to these chumps. Talk to the bosses, they'll work with ya if you have everything reasoned out and IC.

[Kill4Free]

Itll take a while to get everything set up, and sorted out, before I am ready.  But I will take your advice and contact the imms.

[Armaddict]

Ever heard of a guard dog, dude

Guard dogs are trained animals.

Right.  So he wants to be the one who trains the raptor.  It's a crude method of training that may or may not work.  I think it's silly to say it's impossible.

It depends on whether raptors are intelligent enough to learn from it's mistakes.  If it is, then after a few good beatings, it will become hesitant, and after a few more, it will learn -not- to attack that guy who will club it into submission.

Really, I think this thread should be locked, and the discussion should continue between the mud account and Kill4Free.  Because I can already hear the hostile undertones of "Noob Twink!"

[Kill4Free]

Since raptors can track a character miles in, that must mean the have fairly creative following abilities, and that implies intelligence.

[Armaddict]

Well, it denotes more of a predatorial instinct and strong tracking capabilities, either by smell, sight, sound, or touch.

It's intelligence is how well it processes these thoughts and danger to itself.  Judging by the fact that it will thoughtlessly attack a larger group of humanoids, and fight there until it dies...it can go either way.

[Kill4Free]

Considering that almost any creature in real life, save possibly ants, and such, have enough intelligence to be trained to at least that extent, I suppose a raptor will be smart enough to learn as well.  Have you ever seen jurassic park!

Hehe, some real proof, is that sunbacks can be used as mounts, and are very closely related to raptors.  Also that raptors are pack animals, which implies that they can communicate to a certain degree with other raptors, and communication generally (but not always) implies a basic intelligence, and denotes a certain degree of learning.

[Miee]

I think this is great idea.

If it works, there's a new and possibly bizarre little thing in the game.  The resultant business could skyrocket or fall like legless H-G because the idea of a tame raptor is still freaky.

If it fails, then there's the great tale of the fool who tried to tame a raptor.

[Agent_137]

Considering that almost any creature in real life, save possibly ants, and such, have enough intelligence to be trained to at least that extent, I suppose a raptor will be smart enough to learn as well.  Have you ever seen jurassic park!

Hehe, some real proof, is that sunbacks can be used as mounts, and are very closely related to raptors.  Also that raptors are pack animals, which implies that they can communicate to a certain degree with other raptors, and communication generally (but not always) implies a basic intelligence, and denotes a certain degree of learning.

This guy's done his homework.

Best of luck, kill4free! Don't let us know how it turns out, at least on the forums, anyway!

[Anonymous]

WTF, HAVENT YOU PEOPLE HEARD OF DRUG LORDS GETTING LIONS AND TIGERS AND CRAP TO GUARD THEIR WAREHOUSES, EVEN IN FKING AMERICA?


There was a freaking story on the news not a long time ago about someone in like new york having a tiger guard their appt, they were drug sellers.

If you do not believe it would be possible to sneak a unconcious raptor into town, you are not very bright.  Put a towl over it, wait for night/sandstorm, drag it in on a cart or kank.  Easy.

[Armaddict]

1.  Chill.

2.  You're underestimating the search of the guards at the gates.  If they can find a grain of spice in your pack, they can probably find a raptor under a towel on a cart.

3.  We aren't saying it's impossible.  We're offering feedback on our thoughts and ideas, and pooling them all together to discuss.

Read a little more carefully, please, anonymous kank.

I am really beginning to dislike anonymous posting.

[Kill4Free]

Yeah, chill out dude, this is just a discussion.  And the guards do search well,  I guess I will have to wait till they cant see me to make it in first.

[Kill4Free]

Hmm a business, thats not a bad idea, if the Imm's could put some extra code in,  allowing something like this to be possible on a regular basis (for rich nobles and merchants) then it would be pretty cool

[Callisto]

Something like this requires staff intervention

1. Knock out Raptor.
2. Drag Raptor into wagon.
3. Drive wagon to Apartment Building.
4. Knock out Raptor again.
5. Drag into apartment.
6. Leave.
7. Lock door.
8. Hide.
9. Wait for thieves.
10. Profit.

Should he INFORM the staff of his doomed project? Yes.

Does he require the staff to actually DO anything to make it happen? No.

I think the whole concept is ridiculous myself, but as long as he posts the results for our collective entertainment, I support him 100%.

Please continue your discussion.

[Anonymous]

You saddle up the kank, kill three sons of bitches and wear their skulls as halberds, then you charge into the gate.


Guard 1 says "Yeah, I totally kept that guys backpack"
Guard 2 says "Hah, man thats so not cool.  Pretty funny though"
Guard 1 says "I can use the sid, hows Marsha?"
Guard 2 says "Shes doin great, Phil.  Shes coming along real good, should have our baby anytime now.  I wish I was back with her instead of on duty"
Guard 1 says "Yeah, but someone has to pay the rent."
Guard 3 days "OMFG WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT!?"

THEN YOU BUST IN THROUG THE GATE AND FUCKING GUT GUARD 2 AND KILL GUARD 3 AND 4 AND SOME LITTLE KID WHO WAS PRETEND PLAYING TO BE A GUARD

Guard 1 kneels down beside Guard 2 and, in shock, tries to stuff his guts back inside of him.
Guard 2 shouts "STOP ARGHHHHHH!!!! AREEGFH *sputter* ARRGHGH!!"
Guard 2 says "Just... tell... Marsha... I love her..."
Guard 1 " I will man!  I will!"

Then you cut off Guard 1's head because he wasn't looking.
Then you go into town and get like 5 prostitutes.
Then you lock them in your appt with the raptor
RAPTORS NEED FOOD TOO

[Armaddict]

Funny.

[Kill4Free]

Haha, I like those steps  But I dont intend to hide and wait for a thief, that would sort of defeat the purpose of having a trained raptor.  But a thief, would most likely be unarmged, and very bad at combat, and therefore be unlikely to survive more then a few hits.  And at the least, he learns his lesson.

[Bogre]

I know, I didnt explain it that well

But as to the problems brought up, I would lock my door, and these raptors arent smarter then the raptors in jurassic park.  I am a hunter, and I find plenty of shank and loin meat whick is almost useless for me, but good food for the raptor.  I can afford to feed it, and the only way he would get out, is if a thief broke into my place to steal, and the raptor would track him down, until the raptor was most likely killed by guards.  But a thief braking into my apartment would be part of the guards responsibility anyway.
As for training a raptor,  Every time he attacked me, I would knock him out,  and every time I brought in a friend, and he attacked him, I could feed it.
The only real problem, would be if the guards would allow me to bring an unconscious one in, ICly I could hide it under some sheets, and claim it was a dead body or something like that.

ROFLROFL....

If your character would do that, fucking go for it. Thats so amazingly hilarious.

[Cenghiz]

But a thief, would most likely be unarmged, and very bad at combat

ROFL! Not that bad... Anyone who knows to swing can last long to flee from a raptor to a guard; I believe. Then I'm sure raptor won't be able to explain the guard that he's just pursuing some food which entered into the master's home.
I liked the idea. Nobody may claim n00bs can't have good ideas.. Err.. I will tell it. I had a dwarf who had the focus of killing all the fire ants in Zalanthas. I just played my role. Succeeded for long then died. I always felt the invisible help of the imms and; BINGO! You know the result.

Note: Err.. Maybe it wasn't my char's success... But I like believing that it's MY success.

[Kill4Free]

The help file says that thieves are the worst class at fighting.  But you are probably right, they will get away, but if I could somehow make the door close after a person goes throw or something, so the raptor cant follow.  Or train the raptor to stay in the room (that wont be easy at all though)  At least my possessions will be relatively safe.

[spawnloser]

One thing to keep in mind, there should be windows in your apartment...and the raptor has no reason to not simply jump out and go killing in the streets below.

[Kill4Free]

Windows arent too hard to block, a few planks of wood would do the trick.  Besides the raptor might learn to enjoy his time there after a while, free food, no threats, I can see how he would come to like it.