August voting: reset at midnight!

Started by Nyr, July 31, 2013, 11:13:57 AM

July 31, 2013, 11:13:57 AM Last Edit: August 02, 2013, 11:22:08 AM by Nyr
If you want to see metrics on how we did last month, check it out here.

How have we done with voting?

TMS
In 31 days, we've gotten 1475 votes.  That's on the low end; we've supported about 30% higher than that easily in the last few months.  What's the cause?  Hey, it could be anything from vacation to boredom.  It only takes a few players to affect numbers in that fashion.
I'll round us up to 1500 as we'll probably hit that today.  1500 votes over 31 days amounts to 48.3 votes per day.
Broken down by person, that amounts to just a hair over about 24 players voting twice per day.  This is slightly better than what we had in a month with no voting drive whatsoever.  We were in 2nd place for a while, but drifted down to 5th.  In previous months, we've easily beaten all other games that have come to the table on TMS except Aardwolf.  Now, this isn't meant to bash any other games or anything.  We're all in this because we like our games.  However, even these other games are at lower voting totals than usual.  It seems to be a truth that it doesn't really matter how much you vote or how big your playerbase is--it matters how much you vote compared to other games and their voting.

At present, here are the rankings.

1.  Aardwolf.  3771 votes, 1407 site visits.
2.  Midkemia.  1896 votes, 607 site visits.
3.  Achaea.  1779 votes, 482 site visits.
4.  Discworld.  1570 votes, 461 site visits.
5.  Armageddon MUD.  1475 votes, 529 site visits.
6.  The Carrion Fields.  1240 votes, 353 site visits.
7.  Imperian.  1104 votes, 213 site visits.
8.  Lusternia.  904 votes, 167 site visits.
9.  DragonRealms.  899 votes, 378 site visits.
10.  Shattered Kingdoms.  792 votes, 241 site visits.

Now, another observation:  4 of these are IRE games.  That's all well and good, great for the company and great for their players.  However, their players can't vote for all IRE games (at least, not by keeping to the rules), and I doubt they're dishonest and would do that.  Even if they did, it would only raise the bar equally across all IRE games (which hasn't been the case; voting goes as it will with each game separately).  No, I don't think there's any foul play or bad stuff going on.  In the end, it's voting and ranking on a single website, and it's not even where we get most of our players (though we may get higher quality players from TMS).  We just haven't been voting as much as we have in the past.

Well, Nyr, what's your point?  Why even bring this up?
Even with a voting system that doesn't tell you when you've voted (and no opt-in reminders), we manage to stay in the top 10.  We've been #2 for several months purely on word-of-mouth and GDB reminders.  We've been beating other games that may be free to play, but they have a payment element involved.  Cool, great for them, we don't do that kind of thing though. In fact, even if their collective playerbases did focus on one game's votes, they would lose rankings in all other games.  Again, I doubt they'd do that, that'd be a little silly, but the point remains that the people voting for their games on TMS are doing so in a fair manner.

These other games have more players than we do!
So?

So they can easily outvote us!
Why haven't they?  If they could easily outvote us, they would have done so.  They still might do so.  They're outvoting us now because we're not really voting that much this month.  Until they do consistently beat us on their own voting, we've got the following metrics.

Here's how far off we were this month from #2:
6 players voting twice per day every day in addition to our current votes. In other words, if we'd had 7 more players voting every day this past month, we'd be number 2.

Here's how far off we were this month from #1:
36 players voting twice per day every day in addition to our current votes.  In other words, if we'd had 37 more players voting every day this past month, we'd be number 1.

Well, we couldn't take #1.  That's a pretty tall order, getting 37 more players twice per month to vote.
It may be a tall order to get 37 more players to vote twice per month, but we do have those players.

Players on at peak during the HRPT:  170
Let's say that half of these players voted twice per day, every day, for the next month.  That would be 85 x 2 x 31 = 5270 votes.  That would take #1 easily, or force a competition for it at least.
Let's say that this half (85) only voted once per day.  We'd have 2635 votes.  Historically, that's enough to take and keep #2 by a substantial margin, and would force all other games to have to compete with that as the new standard.

We have the playerbase to compete well on TMS. Let's pick it back up starting tonight at midnight!




TMC

Well, hard to argue with #1.  We're there.
1. Armageddon -- 899
2. Aardwolf  -- 840
3. Dark and Shattered Lands (DSL) -- 446
4. SlothMUD -- 394
5. Forgotten Kingdoms -- 376
6. New Moon -- 299
7. AVATAR Mud -- 279
8. BatMUD -- 239
9. MULTI MUD! -- 218
10. Lands of Redemption -- 210

Huh.  I only see one game from TMS that we compete with here, and we've managed to keep a lead over that game.  I imagine those other games do not see a need to push votes on TMC and instead spend money on ad dollars.

899 votes over 31 days is about 900 votes, so I'll round it off and assume no more votes.  To vote on TMC you need to have an account, so we know for a fact that about 30 players have voted consistently over the past month for us on TMC (1 vote per day).  Funnily enough, if we doubled that, we'd be in 3rd place right now on TMS.  Looks like TMC is going to go through some changes (new administrator?) so I'd keep an eye on that.

I'll post a reminder again tonight around 11 or so, and will be stickying this post at that point.  Remember again that the first week or so of voting is pivotal!
Quote from: LauraMars on December 15, 2016, 08:17:36 PMPaint on a mustache and be a dude for a day. Stuff some melons down my shirt, cinch up a corset and pass as a girl.

With appropriate roleplay of course.

30 minutes away!  Everyone ready?
Quote from: LauraMars on December 15, 2016, 08:17:36 PMPaint on a mustache and be a dude for a day. Stuff some melons down my shirt, cinch up a corset and pass as a girl.

With appropriate roleplay of course.

Voting reset!  Go!
Quote from: LauraMars on December 15, 2016, 08:17:36 PMPaint on a mustache and be a dude for a day. Stuff some melons down my shirt, cinch up a corset and pass as a girl.

With appropriate roleplay of course.

First vote!
QuoteSunshine all the time makes a desert.
Vote at TMS
Vote at TMC

Stayed up to get the second vote!  :)

VOTE!


I just pestered pretty much everyone on my IM list and Facebook about it.
I'm taking an indeterminate break from Armageddon for the foreseeable future and thereby am not available for mudsex.
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Just voted. We are at 2nd place with 20 votes. Lets keep up this kind of voting forever.
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Wakey wakey, votey votey!  We are in 3rd!
Quote from: LauraMars on December 15, 2016, 08:17:36 PMPaint on a mustache and be a dude for a day. Stuff some melons down my shirt, cinch up a corset and pass as a girl.

With appropriate roleplay of course.

Quote from: Nyr on August 01, 2013, 08:22:10 AM
Wakey wakey, votey votey!  We are in 3rd!

To inspire voting, I found a video of Nyr dealing with GDB trolls:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul1p3jFbjq8
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Votey vote vote!
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Quote from: Delirium on November 28, 2012, 02:26:33 AM
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Midkemia are catching up to us. Remember to vote!

Ok had to wait twelve hours it was actually more than that. But that's two votes on TMS and one on TMC for me today. We are barely at 2nd place people by ONE vote. Come on vote vote vote.
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We're at 30 x 2 votes for the day so far.  To break 2k for the month, we need slightly over 32 x 2 votes per day, each day.  Higher than that means less work for us later in the month and we get to relax!



Also, TMC is just as important if not more important.  Our retention stuff from last month shows that 50% of our June players that are still playing now were from TMC.

Quote from: LauraMars on December 15, 2016, 08:17:36 PMPaint on a mustache and be a dude for a day. Stuff some melons down my shirt, cinch up a corset and pass as a girl.

With appropriate roleplay of course.

*Harrasses AIM buddy list - disguises as porn links.*

It is 2am est on August 2nd. Do you know where your votes are?
Child, child, if you come to this doomed house, what is to save you?

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Quote from: LauraMars on August 02, 2013, 02:13:37 AM
It is 2am est on August 2nd. Do you know where your votes are?

Languishing away in a prison of sleep and slumber.  NO MORE.  MY VOTES ARE HERE.
Quote from: LauraMars on December 15, 2016, 08:17:36 PMPaint on a mustache and be a dude for a day. Stuff some melons down my shirt, cinch up a corset and pass as a girl.

With appropriate roleplay of course.

Nyr,

Might want to attempt what Aardwolf and Achaea do. They have a very -visible- reminder when you enter their games. I noticed Arm has none. Don't know if it helps, but it might.

Quote from: IssacF on August 02, 2013, 09:01:31 AM
Nyr,

Might want to attempt what Aardwolf and Achaea do. They have a very -visible- reminder when you enter their games. I noticed Arm has none. Don't know if it helps, but it might.

How much more visible can we make it?  I'm being serious--it's the first thing you see after you log in.  Should it be somewhere else?

Welcome back, Nyr.

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Quote from: LauraMars on December 15, 2016, 08:17:36 PMPaint on a mustache and be a dude for a day. Stuff some melons down my shirt, cinch up a corset and pass as a girl.

With appropriate roleplay of course.

Nyr, you might move it to the logged-in menu.  Once you connect to your character, it may be lost to screen-scroll and concern for getting into the game.


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Also don't make it a question, make it a suggestion. "You should vote for Armagedon!" or "Vote for Armageddon!" imo.

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Quote from: LauraMars on December 15, 2016, 08:17:36 PMPaint on a mustache and be a dude for a day. Stuff some melons down my shirt, cinch up a corset and pass as a girl.

With appropriate roleplay of course.

Awesome.
Child, child, if you come to this doomed house, what is to save you?

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turns out it's August btw
Quote from: LauraMars on December 15, 2016, 08:17:36 PMPaint on a mustache and be a dude for a day. Stuff some melons down my shirt, cinch up a corset and pass as a girl.

With appropriate roleplay of course.