Maiden

[FantasyWriter]

A certain "approved" noun makes me cringe every time I see it...
It just seems so... un-Zalanthan.
Since all commoner women are unmarried, I find it just redundant and jarring.

Nouns that are definitely okay to use in an sdesc       

    * adolescent
    * amputee
    * blond/blonde
    * brunette
    * brute
    * crone
    * female
    * hag
    * half-breed
    * half-giant
    * humanoid
    * lad
    * lass
    * maiden
    * male
    * man
    * midget
    * mutant
    * redhead
    * teen
    * teenager
    * youth
    * woman

Maiden
    * Main Entry: 1maid·en
    * Pronunciation: \ˈmā-dən\
    * Function: noun
    * Etymology: Middle English, from Old English mægden, mǣden, diminutive of mægeth; akin to Old High German magad maiden, Old Irish mug serf
    * Date: before 12th century

1 : an unmarried girl or woman : maid
2 : a former Scottish beheading device resembling the guillotine
3 : a horse that has never won a race

[Lizzie]

It's also a colloquialism for a virgin (the 3rd definition - a horse that has never won a race - a woman who has never gotten past the "finish line" hehehehe nudge nudge wink wink)...which is something you can't tell by looking at someone externally.

To me, the inclusion of the word "maiden" in a sdesc feels too much like the player is trying to advertise that their character is "ripe for the plucking."

[mansa]

I miss "girl" and "boy"

[FantasyWriter]

It's also a colloquialism for a virgin (the 3rd definition - a horse that has never won a race - a woman who has never gotten past the "finish line" hehehehe nudge nudge wink wink)...which is something you can't tell by looking at someone externally.

To me, the inclusion of the word "maiden" in a sdesc feels too much like the player is trying to advertise that their character is "ripe for the plucking."

Ugg... I'd forgotten that.. makes it even worse.

I miss "girl" and "boy"

As do I.  The spec apps (or overlooked regular apps) that have included them over the last year have been awesome.

[jhunter]

I think "maiden" shouldn't be allowed and I think "breed" should be one that's okay to use.

[FuSoYa]

I would have opted for an option of indifference.

That being said, I voted yes.  Though I can't remember the last time I saw maiden in an sdesc it is a bit jarring.

Brandon

[brytta.leofa]

Yes.  Maiden is not a synonym for "lass" or "girl-teen."  I don't think we can even argue that there's a modern usage that way; when's the last time you heard someone called a maiden?

It's also a colloquialism for a virgin

More than a colloquialism, I think.  "A virgin" and "never married" are obviously--as far as society is to be concerned--isomorphisms, unless we're speaking of, for instance, prostitutes (who've never ever, as far as I know, been referred to as maidens).

[FantasyWriter]

People who are indifferent just shouldn't vote.


As a side not, that would be an awesome option on a presidential ballot.

[ ] Obama
[ ] McCain
[ ] They are both undeserving pricks.

[Gimfalisette]

Maiden
    * Main Entry: 1maid·en
    * Pronunciation: \ˈmā-dən\
    * Function: noun
    * Etymology: Middle English, from Old English mægden, mǣden, diminutive of mægeth; akin to Old High German magad maiden, Old Irish mug serf
    * Date: before 12th century

1 : an unmarried girl or woman : maid
2 : a former Scottish beheading device resembling the guillotine
3 : a horse that has never won a race

Bolded the part that makes it Zalanthan. Be very afraid when you see the tressy-tressed maiden next time!

[FantasyWriter]

[FuSoYa]

SIX! SIX SIX! THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST!

Brandon

[Lizzie]

2 : a former Scottish beheading device resembling the guillotine

So does that make our maiden a "present American" beheading device resembling the guillotine?
Or, the present Scottish re-heading device resembling the guillotine?
Or, has our maiden retired completely from the heading/beheading business, and is now relaxing in a bog somewhere, eating finger sandwiches and drinking tea?

Or! Is it still a Scottish beheading device, but it no longer resembles the guillotine?

WHAT MEANS THIS?

The use of the word "former" in this definition greatly influences the definition's Zalanthanization.

[Gimfalisette]

odd urge: app the iron-tressed maiden

[brytta.leofa]

odd urge: app the iron-tressed maiden

Name: Noel

> wish all I'd like a pair of tube socks, please. This is crucial to my character concept.

[ibusoe]

A certain "approved" noun makes me cringe every time I see it...
It just seems so... un-Zalanthan.
Since all commoner women are unmarried, I find it just redundant and jarring.

Agree with original post.  I think that maiden slips through because it's cute.  I notice that cute tends to slip through the filters.

[Aleksandr]

When I see it, I just assume they're using another word for woman, so it doesn't bother me.

[jhunter]

Heh, I think that if "maiden" is okay then "dude" should be okay. The scruffy-haired, bearded dude.

[Winterless]

It's also a colloquialism for a virgin (the 3rd definition - a horse that has never won a race - a woman who has never gotten past the "finish line" hehehehe nudge nudge wink wink)...which is something you can't tell by looking at someone externally.

To me, the inclusion of the word "maiden" in a sdesc feels too much like the player is trying to advertise that their character is "ripe for the plucking."

the last time I saw maiden in an sdesc it is a bit jarring.

Yes.  Maiden is not a synonym for "lass" or "girl-teen."  I don't think we can even argue that there's a modern usage that way; when's the last time you heard someone called a maiden?

It's also a colloquialism for a virgin

More than a colloquialism, I think.  "A virgin" and "never married" are obviously--as far as society is to be concerned--isomorphisms, unless we're speaking of, for instance, prostitutes (who've never ever, as far as I know, been referred to as maidens).

All this. Especially when the maiden is known to sleep around or has a kid. When you have a kid you're not a maiden any more, maid if anything... but neither term fits Zalanthas, in my opinion.

[Ghost]

what dude is not okay???

[FantasyWriter]

what dude is not okay???

<3 Ghost

[Gimfalisette]

Clearly we just need the assess command to do one more thing, then this can fit Zalanthas (codedly).

[brytta.leofa]

Clearly we just need the assess command to do one more thing, then this can fit Zalanthas (codedly).

That's a real dang-jurious path to, ah, go down.  There'd be no end to th' other coded commands nee-cessitated.

[Zoltan]

I don't mind maiden. It's just another word for young woman to me, like early-teens.

[Gimfalisette]

The iron-tressed maiden is here, acting insouciant.

> assess -v maiden

You notice her hyphen is intact.




That's what I meant, brytta! Sheesh!

[Bluefae]

2 : a former Scottish beheading device resembling the guillotine

So does that make our maiden a "present American" beheading device resembling the guillotine?
Or, the present Scottish re-heading device resembling the guillotine?
Or, has our maiden retired completely from the heading/beheading business, and is now relaxing in a bog somewhere, eating finger sandwiches and drinking tea?

Or! Is it still a Scottish beheading device, but it no longer resembles the guillotine?

WHAT MEANS THIS?

The use of the word "former" in this definition greatly influences the definition's Zalanthanization.

     Lizzie, you made my day.