Unrealistic Rp that results in pc death/storage.

[Elfmolester]

Rp gripe: I just love how people seem to think that stealing from someone means they have to strip them completely of everything so that they no longer have anything to use to survive even. Unless you want to be a beggar it's a death sentence. It really pisses me off. I can't even count the number of times this has happened that I've either been the victim of or seen the aftermath.
I don't mind getting stolen from, not at all. But if you're going to steal from someone, at least steal from them realistically and in such a way that they can recover from it to be stolen from again. When you strip someone completely you pretty much guarantee that they will not be around to interact with again.
If I wanted to play a beggar, I'd have apped one in the first place.

[Spud]

Yeah, it's a problem. Letting the imms know with a log, if possible, is your best bet to have it solved.

[Manhattan]

Heh, trust me bud, I've been there...  about ten times in total.
And I've picked myself back up every time.

How?

Perserverance.

Your PC's not dead, pal.

(And you don't have to be a beggar to do it.)

[Elfmolester]

Oh it's dead already. I had no intentions of continuing to play it once I was stripped of everything. I never do. That's not enjoyable to be struggling to come back from unable to survive to a point where I can barely survive again. I do not enjoy it whatsoever. Especially when it was caused but the unrealistic actions of others. It instantly ruined the character for me to wake up competely naked, what's funny is that my pc was stripped down by pcs that, in my opinion, should have no reason to rob anyone.

Wake up, no food, no water, no money, no clothes, weapons, or anything else. The only option left is to beg if you're not capable of stealing. I see no other alternative nor do I care to look for it under the circumstances. Realistically, my pc shouldn't have found themselves completely naked anyway. Stripping someone completely naked smacks of H&S gaming.

[Manhattan]

I don't know what to say other then "don't become discouraged."
Trust me on this.

I have been in your exact same shoes.

And struggling is always the most fun in Armageddon.
When you have no possession, nothing but the will to live, at what ends will you go to ensure your survival?  You've nothing to lose!
This is when RP in the game is essentially SWEETEST.

You're quite -lucky- actually, if I should say so myself.

Trust me, friend, the game is about struggles.  
Strugles, are the fruit of life.

Take these words at heart. I beseech you!

[Elfmolester]

No thanks, I'm not a griefer. Suffering does not get me off. I was struggling to survive to begin with. That's about as low and harsh as I'm willing to play through. Scraping back from absolutely nothing again with a character I just started is something I have no intentions of ever doing. Had I played it for a while...maybe, then it'd be more worthwhile to try and struggle through it with a character that I've become attached to. With a pc that was less than a day old? Fuck that, I'll just make a new one if I have to start over anyway.

[Caitrin]

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[Manhattan]

That is the wrong mentality, friend.
That's all I have to say.

But, best of luck to your new PC though.  Honestly.  

[Elfmolester]

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[Fnord]

Hrm, I've always enjoyed being left alive with nothing. It's fun to come back and get revenge. A few characters back my dude was naked having to go bar to bar and eat scraps off the tables. Now that was Zalanthas.

[Gimfalisette]

Remember, kids, Tuluk is the fluffy, easy, silky town! Nothing bad ever happens to anyone in Tuluk! It doesn't matter who you piss off, you can get away with anything in Tuluk! Now let's go, we're late for our tree-hugging field trip!

[Ghost]

Molester dude, I think you should not judge folks and especially not on GDB.

What I can suggest is, both parties should send their logs to the imms that are involved in this scenario, or to the clan.  And the rest is out of your hands.

We can discuss stripping off someone completely though, but it should not be going over the particular example.

[Halaster]

I'd just like to add that stripping someone completely of everything doesn't necessarily mean bad roleplaying.  In Zalanthas, I could sell your pants for a couple of 'sid.  In world where most people don't have very much, every little thing has some value.  If I were playing a mugger type who was low on money and really needed it, I would have no problem stripping someone of every last thing so that I can turn around and sell it.

I can also envision a situation where someone wants to humiliate you and therefore strips you naked for that very purpose.

I'm not defending their roleplaying, I have no idea as I didn't see it.  Just pointing out that stripping you naked is not necessarily "bad" roleplaying.

[Maso]

I think we should just all chill out, smoke some spice and as Gim said...go hug some trees.

Peace.

[Marauder Moe]

I've always wanted to have a character get stripped naked with nothing left in the bank.  Someday I plan to make a new PC, dump all my starting coins and gear, and see if I can pull off a recovery.  Even better if said character doesn't have reputable skills, like an assassin or a non-self-sustaining magicker.  If I fail, well, then I get to see what starving to death is like.  Might be extra-fun if I get to do it in a crowded tavern.

[Maso]

I've totally been there myself. And it was a bit shocking...but it wasn't the end of the world. Not entirely sure how I pulled through as it was a while ago and not particularly memorable, but I managed it. However -naked- is a bit embarrassing and some kind/disgusted soul would be bound to throw you a cloak.

However, I totally understand those times when you just cannot be arsed. When something just gets to you that much then sometimes it's just nicer to get a fresh start.

Try Allanak instead. Apparently their horrible down there, which probably means what they really do is hug...uhm...stone...all day.

[Elfmolester]

I'd just like to add that stripping someone completely of everything doesn't necessarily mean bad roleplaying.  In Zalanthas, I could sell your pants for a couple of 'sid.  In world where most people don't have very much, every little thing has some value.  If I were playing a mugger type who was low on money and really needed it, I would have no problem stripping someone of every last thing so that I can turn around and sell it.

I can also envision a situation where someone wants to humiliate you and therefore strips you naked for that very purpose.

I'm not defending their roleplaying, I have no idea as I didn't see it.  Just pointing out that stripping you naked is not necessarily "bad" roleplaying.

I have no problem with either. But the first one, wasn't the case and in the second...if you're intentions were just to strip the character naked to humiliate them why did you take -everything-? Realistically, you would've just taken off their clothes.

[Ghost]

Might be extra-fun if I get to do it in a crowded tavern.

Did that.  They kick you out.

Bitches.

But yes, there is always something to do, far as I know.  500 sids say I can rebuild a character from nothing in 2 days, if anyone is up to bet.

On the subject of stripping off, it may be discouraging if you have long term plans.  Because it is such a change of fate, that while you get some new opportunities, you may lose some you wanted to have in the first place.

But this has nothing to do with the thief or thug's doing.  The thief/thug does not have to care about you, so there is pretty much nothing to do.  And letting them go so you can steal from them again is an option -only- if you are a full time thief/thug, not a part time one and even in that case, if you have a grudge on the guy or if you think you won't see him again, taking what you can at that instance may be a better option.

I almost always leave clothes and weapons and water on the victim.  But that does not mean I have to do so, or I feel compelled to do so.

[Caitrin]

If you throw crap around, you're going to get crap thrown back. "It's a harsh world," especially if you deliberately start a conflict with someone.

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[Elfmolester]

Removed by poster.

[Marauder Moe]

Yikes.  You guys are like... totally having an IC discussion.  You should probably stop.

[Fiona Deathspike]

Scraping back from absolutely nothing again with a character I just started is something I have no intentions of ever doing.

Maybe you're playing the wrong game?

The game is about struggle.

Then again, I'm a little biased.  I enjoy my characters the most when I don't know where my next drink of water is coming from.  When things get easy, I get bored.

[Malken]

I never openly started any conflict with you. You and your friends came after me like drunken Bynners from Allanak instead of a bard from Tuluk. By that point I was so disgusted with your rp I didn't want to deal with your shit any more from an OOC standpoint.

After all these accusations, Elfmolester, I hope you are man enough to send your unedited log to the admins.

[Elfmolester]

You're right. I've had enough anyway. I have no intentions of further interaction with these people in the game period, didn't even feel like I was playing in Tuluk at all. At least if I make a pc in Allanak and people are acting so openly hostile it will be the norm.

[a strange shadow]

Wow, this thread is a candidate for lock/deletion if I ever saw one.

You guys are getting into way too much IC detail.