Zalanthan Sexism Confessional!

[Galdun]

Welcome, welcome.  Please take your seats...

*A general shuffling of limbs and creaking of chair legs fills the room as the disheveled group memebers settle into their seats...*

Wonderful.  Lets begin.  We're all here because we're unquestionably tainted by our Earth influenced sexism!  Thats right my little misandrists and misogynists!  Its a difficult thing to escape having been raised on our biased little ball of blue and green.  Perhaps it'd be easier to Role Play a complete lack of sexual prejudice if we were all children of Zalanthas, but such is not the case.  Today, however, we convene, brothers and sisters, to confess our RP sins of Zalanthan sexism in hopes that we may laugh and learn from our mistakes and the mistakes of others.  We are a community of gifted minds, creative talents and wonderful writers, but we still have our shortcomings.  Each and every one of us!  We can fix them, my dear friends.  So once again, feel free(in all safety from flaming and criticism) to come clean with your past RPed mistakes in regard to our topic.  I truly believe it will help our collective consciousness rid itself of Earth-Sexism while within the realm of Zalanthas!  Let the grand absolving begin!

I'll start...

1.) A past character of mine used to refer to -all- female whores in a derogatory sense as though they were immoral.  But I've since accepted that the profession of the whore is simply just another working job on Zalanthas.  It can even be a respectable one for women to hold.  Hallelujah!

2.) That same character used to harness the belief that he couldn't be beaten in the sparring circle by a woman, and if he ever was, would become completely defensive and blatantly sexist.  I've since dropped this notion and come to realize that on Zalanthas, women make for equally as fierce and talented warriors as their male counterparts.
Hallelujah!

Those are two more or less generic displays of sexism that I've exhibited.  There are tons more that we can bring into the cleansing light, brothers and sisters!  CONFESS YOUR SINS AND FEEL THE SANDS SCRAPE YOU CLEAN OF YOUR EARTH INFLUENCED PREDJUDICE!

HALLELUJAH!

[jmordetsky]

Once, I called SarahJC a poop face.

[LauraMars]

I am guilty of sleeping with multiple women and then discarding them as if they were no more than rags with which I wipe my...face.

However I don't think this is sexist.  It is just that I had no other choice.  You see, I would have slept with way more men but most of them don't seem too keen on sleeping with a man.

SEXISM IN ACTION.  I was sexisted against.

[bloodfromstone]

I'll throw in and say, while I think I've been pretty good about not being sexist myself, I've contributed to LauraMars' problem. I have played mostly straight characters because it is what comes naturally to me, being a straight man myself and only knowing (mostly) straight women to forge my female character(s) out of. I confess to being part of this epidemic and will try to bang tons of men with my next male character.

[grog]

Recognizing that men and women are inherently different, does not mean that one is being sexist.   On Zalanthas men and women are equal, but they still think and look different.  (in some cases, I know that some women actually think exactly like men, and vice versa because of the person playing them)   Equal never means the same, it just means that their is not a single field that both women and men can be in (with either in charge).  Whores are still whores, men or women.   A lot of men sill won't understand women, and a vice versa.   And both men and women will still use each other for sex, companionship, and whatever else comes to mind.

And just because homosexuality ain't thought badly of, doesn't mean everybody thinks screwing the same sex is a good idea, for themselves.

[Rindan]

There is nothing wrong with using whore for males or females in derogatory manner, in my opinion.  Calling someone a whore implies that they will have sex with anything that has a pulse.  That includes ugly and disgusting people, people with STDs, and people who are socially unacceptable.  That goes double and triple if you throw in a qualifier, like calling someone a 'rinth whore.  Whore, in my opinion, is an inherently derogatory name that implies a little more then that people pay to sleep with them.  I probably would not call a mistress to a noble a "whore", even if she was on a payroll.  At that point she is a mistress, companion, or prostitute.  Those are all slightly more dignified or even prestigious terms.  "Whore" implies no standards and someone who is desperate for money.

[Galdun]

But isn't everyone in Zalanthas desperate for money?  How should a whore be any more derogatory a term than a mercenary; one who is willing to gut his best bud for a 'sid.  I just don't think whore's should be the 'zero standard' filth bags that some people write them off as especially when they themselves are bynners or scavengers.

Hate to derail my own thread, but thats my take.

[jhunter]

I think it depends on the pc. Gender shouldn't play an issue but I can see how some might look down on those that make their coins selling sex just like some might look down on those that make their coins stealing, doing mercenary work or whatever.
People will always find reasons/have their own reasons to look down on someone who is different in some way.

That's okay, it just creates conflict.

[Rindan]

But isn't everyone in Zalanthas desperate for money?  How should a whore be any more derogatory a term than a mercenary; one who is willing to gut his best bud for a 'sid.  I just don't think whore's should be the 'zero standard' filth bags that some people write them off as especially when they themselves are bynners or scavengers.

Well, I think mercenary is a derogatory term too, for some people.  Clearly, it depends upon the crowd how much offense one is going to take.  Calling a Tor Scorpion a mere mercenary probably is going to result in a pissed Tor and possibly a fight.  Calling a Byner a mercenary is going to get him to shrug and say "no shit".  Calling a noble's mistress a whore might land you in a world of hurt.  Calling a 'rinth prostitute a whore is likely to get her going rates for various 'services'.  It all depends upon the context and who you are talking to.  

I think whore is vaguely derogatory to most people.  Most men and women don't offer themselves out for money even though most men and women are perfectly capable of doing so.  The word "whore" implies low standards and a low going rate.  Even in Zalanthas culture where long term monogamy might not be the norm, I don't think fucking anything with a pulse for a few 'sid is really looked upon all that favorably.

[FightClub]

I am often guilty of saying "you swing like a woman"

And "only a woman bleeds like that."

And "Babies are stds."

but that last one really had no relevance, it's just a fact -- so wrap it up kids.

[Kiri]

I confess that I have often assumed that male characters are easily manipulated through their dicks.

[Hymwen]

They aren't?

[Cuusardo]

Both sexes can be manipulated by it.  

[Ghost]

What?!  We don't have any kankfuckers around?  Come on guys, just say it.

[Hymwen]

I think the docs say that men and women are equal. Not men, women and kanks.

[EvilRoeSlade]

1.) A past character of mine used to refer to -all- female whores in a derogatory sense as though they were immoral.  But I've since accepted that the profession of the whore is simply just another working job on Zalanthas.  It can even be a respectable one for women to hold.  Hallelujah!

Ironically, the sexism taking place here is not that whores are being referred to in a derogatory sense (which is okay), it is that you are assuming that only women are whores.

[Kiri]

Ironically, the sexism taking place here is not that whores are being referred to in a derogatory sense (which is okay), it is that you are assuming that only women are whores.

That's right. Everybody knows those kanks are whores! They ask for it! They don't even get the common going rate for it!

Ironically, though, I can't recall a female ever being called a kankfucker....

[Medena]

1.) A past character of mine used to refer to -all- female whores in a derogatory sense as though they were immoral.  But I've since accepted that the profession of the whore is simply just another working job on Zalanthas.  It can even be a respectable one for women to hold.  Hallelujah!

Ironically, the sexism taking place here is not that whores are being referred to in a derogatory sense (which is okay), it is that you are assuming that only women are whores.

If Galdun were assuming that only women are whores, he or she would not have specified "all female whores". The sexism here is that only female whores were referred to derogatorially and that, by necessary inference, male whores were deemed to be okay.

[EvilRoeSlade]

Well, that's sort of unclear to me.

1.) A past character of mine used to refer to -all- female whores in a derogatory sense as though they were immoral.  But I've since accepted that the profession of the whore is simply just another working job on Zalanthas.  It can even be a respectable one for women to hold.  Hallelujah!

[Maybe42or54]

I tried to be a man whore once, but no man wanted me.

[spawnloser]

I tried to be a pimp once, but noone wanted to work for me.

[jhunter]

I tried to be a half-giant whore, but the only people that would hire me were nobles and my johns didn't usually survive it.

[LauraMars]

This is starting to sound like a song.

I tried to be a whore-man, but no man wanted me
I tried to be a pimp-man but there were no customers to see
I tried to be a gay-man but there were no holes to fill...

Come on, someone write the next line!

[Delirium]

I tried to be a straight-man but there's no girls who will!

[grog]

I tried to be a straight-man but there's no girls who will!

Agree to be my comic relief.