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Feedback & Discussion / Re: Compiled List of Feedback
« Last post by DesertT on March 19, 2023, 01:26:34 PM »
- Being able to quickly and easily see who other staff members are monitoring
- A return to the rule of new staff having to store their current PC to come on to staff (this rule was initially softened because it was increasingly hard to fill staff positions when people didn't want to store)
- Changes to which staff can see which requests, notably complaints
- New staff must inform us of any prior (or current) familial or romantic relationship with a player
- Where are all the areas where we can be more transparent in order to benefit the game and the community?
- An overhaul and expansion of the consent & rape policy and rules.

We really have a magnifying glass up to every nook and cranny of how we operate as a staffing team, how we run the game and how we interact with players. This is not a quick process nor a comfortable one but it's happening.
While I appreciate the non-bolded parts of the above post, can we leave the bolded parts out?

Re-instating a hard rule about storing when there was a MOSTLY UNKNOWN softening seems rather unfair, especially to those who didn't drop a staff application BECAUSE they didn't want to store.  If anything, this rule should only apply if the said player (staff member selectee) is playing a sponsored role, a leadership role, a mul, a magicker, sorc, or psion.  I should've just said so long as they're a mundane, karma 1, or half-giant.

And I disagree with the second part because honestly, that's nobody's business unless it starts really interfering with the game on an OOC level.  Considering we've had (to my knowledge) VERY FEW of these (the most recent one being the most obvious), I'd still vote to keep this out.  Relatively speaking over nearly 30 years of existence, I think the rarity is acceptable.

What I'd like to see is some kind of commitment from Staff for a balance between positive animations versus negative animations.  There are ways to make corrective animations and not have it be overly negative and repetitive.

Otherwise, everything else looks good and honestly, it -really- seems like Staff is listening with the implementation of some of these small but meaningful changes.  I just don't understand why it took so long to implement them.  Like the 18+ deal and a player-moderator team.

So again, overall MASSIVE KUDOS to Staff for their present meaningful efforts!!
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Feedback & Discussion / Re: Compiled List of Feedback
« Last post by Usiku on March 19, 2023, 01:05:36 PM »
I would like to add that this list is not the exhaustive list of all discussions that are happening right now. Staff have been discussing all feedback as it has been coming in and those discussions have resulted in what I suppose you could call a shortlist here. Nothing was arbitrarily or off-handedly dismissed and Halaster didn't go through all the feedback in a silo and make these decisions by himself. Now the list has been compiled, there will be further, more in-depth discussions around each.

In addition to that we also have a similar exercise happening on the staff side, where all staff have been invited to contribute their feedback ideas about what could be improved for staff, for the game, for players and for the community. There is a fair amount of overlap of ideas between what players posted and what staff posted (unsurprisingly). But being on staff and having that experience fresh and front of mind perhaps allows for a slightly different perspective. These have yet to be compiled but some small examples of the other things we are also bandying about (included but certainly not limited to):

- Being able to quickly and easily see who other staff members are monitoring
- A return to the rule of new staff having to store their current PC to come on to staff (this rule was initially softened because it was increasingly hard to fill staff positions when people didn't want to store)
- Changes to which staff can see which requests, notably complaints
- New staff must inform us of any prior (or current) familial or romantic relationship with a player
- Where are all the areas where we can be more transparent in order to benefit the game and the community?
- An overhaul and expansion of the consent & rape policy and rules.

We really have a magnifying glass up to every nook and cranny of how we operate as a staffing team, how we run the game and how we interact with players. This is not a quick process nor a comfortable one but it's happening.
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Staff Announcements / Re: Release Notes
« Last post by Halaster on March 19, 2023, 10:26:41 AM »
March 19, 2023 (Sunday)

Zorkbob the Inhaler
- Dropping something while drawing a weapon no longer makes the draw fail
- Getting disarm attempt reversed now provides chence for skillgain, as it is a failure
- Difficulty messages for craft shown via analyze now use same calculations as actual crafting
- Reformatted output when crafting
- Changed difficulty messages and percent chance of success to better convey the challenge
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Feedback & Discussion / Re: Compiled List of Feedback
« Last post by Jimpka_Moss on March 19, 2023, 08:54:26 AM »
This is good effort. This is a sign of good things. This is clear evidence to me that this is all being taken seriously behind the screen. I very much appreciate this. I'm now eagerly looking forward to more blue text in this thread. Thank you. Thank you all, again I appreciate this.
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Feedback & Discussion / Re: Compiled List of Feedback
« Last post by SpyGuy on March 19, 2023, 08:14:13 AM »
While this may fall under what a player/staff committee might do, can we please review what happened to Delirium a year ago?  I don’t know the details of the complaints she lodged at the time, the responses by staff or the reasons why.  I do know that whatever happened in that process was an abject failure that lost the game at least two great players.

What I’m asking for is a review by all staff, or a committee, to review it and try to learn from what went wrong there.  Were the player’s complaints taken seriously? At what point did staff/player communication break down? When were the times either side lost their cool?  What action was taken or solutions offered on staff side to de-escalate the situation?  This isn’t meant to be a witch hunt or tear open old wounds.  It’s so that staff can identify the mistakes that were made.

I also don’t encourage asking past players to come back.  I’m aware Delirium and Ender aren’t banned.  That’s even worse, they felt so badly treated they left a game they’d played for years. Armageddon can be emotionally intense and some folks got burned bad. I would encourage publicly posting a recap of what went wrong and takeaways.   

Players have one vote, with our feet.  I’ve exercised that option before when staff communication broke down, mostly with Shalooonsh.  I’m choosing to come back now because I hope the game can grow and change.  It won’t be able to do that in the future if people are driven to quit.
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Feedback & Discussion / Re: Compiled List of Feedback
« Last post by whengravityfails on March 19, 2023, 12:37:53 AM »
On the ERP thing, I think that the rape policy should be re-worded.  As it sits it's fine to coerce someone via sexual means.
https://www.armageddon.org/help/view/Rape
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Note that Wikipedia includes 'coercion' and 'abuse of power' as two ways that rape can be carried out. We are excluding these from our definition, as we feel they are part of the game world. Also, the rule of consent still applies as to how and if the sexual scene would be carried out.

I would recommend taking that out, as that's just ASKING for problems.

Yeah, I second this. Not including coercion and abuse of power is pretty antiquated these days.
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Feedback & Discussion / Re: Compiled List of Feedback
« Last post by Seeker on March 18, 2023, 09:44:15 PM »
This may be folded into some of the the other points in your outline, but overall it really seems that needing a system to insure accountability might be missing.

Whether it is in the staff duties (one appointed Admin must be responsible for monitoring run-logs involving all ST, one assigned Producer must be assigned to regularly monitor run-logs involving Admins.) or in some other system, we keep getting into the worst trouble with how staff fails to police their own behavior.
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Feedback & Discussion / Re: Compiled List of Feedback
« Last post by Pariah on March 18, 2023, 09:23:22 PM »
On the ERP thing, I think that the rape policy should be re-worded.  As it sits it's fine to coerce someone via sexual means.
https://www.armageddon.org/help/view/Rape
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Note that Wikipedia includes 'coercion' and 'abuse of power' as two ways that rape can be carried out. We are excluding these from our definition, as we feel they are part of the game world. Also, the rule of consent still applies as to how and if the sexual scene would be carried out.

I would recommend taking that out, as that's just ASKING for problems.
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Feedback & Discussion / Re: Compiled List of Feedback
« Last post by Tuannon on March 18, 2023, 11:04:29 AM »
"rebrand - maybe remove MCB"

MCB isn't the problem, MCB is a crutch used for stupidity 'that's what my character would do, man'. Not the problem itself.

"Whistleblower rule that absolves someone of breaking other rules if it exposes a serious problem"

Depends on what rules are being broken, in my opinion.

"staff cannot engage in ERP"

Not sure why this is relevant, ERP related manipulation should not be occurring at all unless it is for IC reasons (to get aide B to be a willing patsy in Plot Z).

Now we have hopefully cleared up a bit of the issues with staff, maybe turn the magnifying glass on players. It's all well and good to have staff's bad actors gone or censured, but you still have the usual suspects in the player population taking advantage of all this chaos.

The idea of rotating staff out when they are fatigued will probably do away with the 8 week turnarounds on simple or update requests, I think it's a good idea for the 'middle manager' staff to be more involved here.

I probably have more, but I reserve the right to forget to update this post.

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Feedback & Discussion / Re: Compiled List of Feedback
« Last post by tiny rainbow on March 18, 2023, 10:15:46 AM »
One thing probably worth mentioning is some of those things have more player support than others and it probably shouldn't be an equal list of "demands from the players" because a lot of us would prefer some of the things on that list were not added :)
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