Subguild and Sorcerer Changes

[Armaddict]

Even at low levels, flee is pretty useful.  I'd take a subguild with low level flee simply because it gives a couple of advantages, even at low level.  I won't go into detail here because I'm not sure it's allowed, but having easy access to the flee skill is definitely beneficial for some people.

This is one of the skills that we determined fits better in as a base skill for all.

I told you guys that back when you put in the flee changes.  *huff*

[Adhira]

 

[rodic]

Wait did we just lose the ability to dual stealth a Ranger with out an extended sub?

As well, we can't select thief and skip the gouge my eyes out listen grind?

[wizturbo]

Love the changes!

One question, what happened to the search skill?  It was one of my favorites from scavenger and isn't represented anywhere on the new subguilds.

[Dresan]

I guess this helpfile answers my question, along with the new CGP values.

http://armageddon.org/help/view/Skill%20Bumps

[JackGibbons]

Wait did we just lose the ability to dual stealth a Ranger with out an extended sub?

As well, we can't select thief and skip the gouge my eyes out listen grind?

Thieves are petty criminals with clever hands. Able to conceal themselves in crowds and approach their marks unnoticed, they can both pick the pockets of their mark and perform the sleight of hand required to secrete their ill-gotten gains. Always on the lookout for their next mark, thieves have an eye for spotting choice targets on other people's persons.

Thieves are able to reach the level of advanced in sleight of hand. They can also attain the level of journeyman in sneak, steal, peek and hide.

[rodic]

Wait did we just lose the ability to dual stealth a Ranger with out an extended sub?

As well, we can't select thief and skip the gouge my eyes out listen grind?

Thieves are petty criminals with clever hands. Able to conceal themselves in crowds and approach their marks unnoticed, they can both pick the pockets of their mark and perform the sleight of hand required to secrete their ill-gotten gains. Always on the lookout for their next mark, thieves have an eye for spotting choice targets on other people's persons.

Thieves are able to reach the level of advanced in sleight of hand. They can also attain the level of journeyman in sneak, steal, peek and hide.

Didn't catch that, nice. 

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[RogueGunslinger]

Rogue and Cutpurse need helpfiles added/adjusted.

[Nyr]

Love the changes!

One question, what happened to the search skill?  It was one of my favorites from scavenger and isn't represented anywhere on the new subguilds.

Search was found to not have much impact in the game.

[Rathustra]

Love the changes!

One question, what happened to the search skill?  It was one of my favorites from scavenger and isn't represented anywhere on the new subguilds.

Search was found to not have much impact in the game.

But then we removed search so we lost it again.

[RogueGunslinger]

Welcome back, Nyr.

[wizturbo]

I'm confused.  Search is no longer a skill in Armageddon?  How are we supposed to find the plethora of hidden rooms out there?

[Dar]

Heya.

I think some options are missing amongst the extended subguild during chargen.

I'm not seeing

Aggressor
Majordomo
Master Trader
Apothecary
Minstrel
Berserker    
Bruiser
Master Crafter
Protector
Cutpurse
Rogue
Grebber
Master Potter
Slipknife
Master Tailor
Weaponsmith

[Synthesis]

I'm confused.  Search is no longer a skill in Armageddon?  How are we supposed to find the plethora of hidden rooms out there?

Burglars still get it, presumably.

I have yet to meet a burglar explorer, though.

Probably because they all get ate.

Burglar/protector:  CAREFULLY climb up

[Adhira]

Heya.

I think some options are missing amongst the extended subguild during chargen.

I'm not seeing

Aggressor
Majordomo
Master Trader
Apothecary
Minstrel
Berserker    
Bruiser
Master Crafter
Protector
Cutpurse
Rogue
Grebber
Master Potter
Slipknife
Master Tailor
Weaponsmith

The changes get applied to your account once you have logged in your character and it updates according to your karma.  If you do not have a character to log in those changes won't be able to be applied, please submit a request.

[Malken]

Maybe you just type 'search' and then go make yourself a sandwich and you come back like half an hour later and then if there's a hidden room or exit it'll pop up eventually and automatically.

[Nergal]

Dar, you should be fixed. Anyone else who doesn't have a character, has at least 1 karma and doesn't see their subguild options should put in a request as Adhira said.

[RogueGunslinger]

Code Select Expand

m) Forester             n) Gladiator            o) Grebber
p) Guard                q) House Servant        r) Hunter
s) Jeweler              t) Lancer               u) Linguist
v) Majordomo            w) Mercenary            x) Minstrel
y) Nomad                z) Outdoorsman          A) Outlaw
B) Physician            C) Protector            D) Rogue
E) Slipknife            F) Tailor               G) Thief
H) Thug                 I) Weapon Crafter
J) Master Armorsmith    K) Master Chef          L) Master Crafter
M) Master Jeweler       N) Master Potter        O) Master Tailor

P) Master Trader        Q) Master Weaponsmith

R)                      S)                      T)
U)



There's a formatting problem at the moment, I think it has to do with J being on the next line?

[nessalin]

There's a formatting problem at the moment, I think it has to do with J being on the next line?

That's so the master craft subguilds are all in one lump.  Same as the next group of options are all of a kind.

[Case]

I wish you needed clanning or search to find all the secret alcoves and stuff, instead of being lame and using key .

[Synthesis]

I wish you needed clanning or search to find all the secret alcoves and stuff, instead of being lame and using key .

There are a bunch of secret doors out there that you can't find with the key . method.

I just wish their names changed every once in a while, so I couldn't "open grimypelts" with any subsequent PC just because I saw someone go through the grimypelts door once upon a time.

[RogueGunslinger]

I wish you needed clanning or search to find all the secret alcoves and stuff, instead of being lame and using key .

I think this was either fixed, or doesn't work in so many places now.

There's a formatting problem at the moment, I think it has to do with J being on the next line?

That's so the master craft subguilds are all in one lump.  Same as the next group of options are all of a kind.

Ah that makes sense. The formatting problem I'm talking about is the spaces between the lines after M,N,O and P,Q.

[Dar]

I wish the outlaw part didnt mention red storm, or mul's outpost. I understand the hint, but there could be other sources of outlawism, or ... life's choices and events that would bring a person to that type of lifestyle.  Then again, rebel was even worse at that.

[Dar]

whining aside. What a curious change. You guys are the devils. I've been trying to come up with a chara concept for the last 20 days I think, but kept postponing it, or coming up blank. Now you've got this ... wtf am I to do now? I've got like ... IRL stuff to do. Work! Life! Ughrrrh.



There is a mention that some civil worker in spain managed to pull off a 6 year sick leave. Do you think I'll swing that?

[Case]

So like, can people play ext subs all the time now? and starting at 1 karma? seems like normal subs are tons weak now