Bar Fighting

[Chettaman]

I just want to encourage people to be more creative in their brawling. If you hit someone with the ''hit'' command in a bar I say that you have a choice. You can... let the echo that appeared be what happened or you can quickly come up with an action of your own. For example:
"I'm gonna put my foot in your ass, necker!"
the dood swings at you, but misses.
>hit dood
You drive your elbow into his ribs!
---
in this moment. You can continue to emote elbowing the guy in the ribs or... whatever else sounds cool to you. Nothing ''outlandish'' of course.
>emote steps on %dood toe!
>emote grabs a nearby bottle and shatters it over %dood head!
>emote shoves ~dood before sending ^me forehead straight into %dood nose!
>emote kisses %dood nose, doing horrendous damage to ^dood pride!

you can emote before or after - or both.
But I /really/ want to see people get creative with this. I really do.

Now. The same applies for when someone hits at you and you counter them.
The dood throws a punch at you and you duck away before uppercutting him!
>emote after easily batting %dood punch aside, @Me jabs ^dood in the face.
>emote doesn't actually retaliate at all, he just backs off.
>emote slips in a pool of vomit, luckily avoiding the chair that was swung at his back - that now finds itself swung into ~dood
>emote back-flips off of a table onto %dood

you know... I just thought I'd bring this up. It didn't seem like everyone knew they could be so creative during a brawl.

[WanderingOoze]

I support this.  Especially the nose kissing.

[Sphynx]

I support this.  Especially the nose kissing.

Lips on elves...ewwww *shudders*, honestly though I think that the brawl code opens a lot of avenues for some creativity and I personally have no issue at all with someone deciding to use all, some, or none of the code generated message as long as the outcome of said emote is reflected in the result of the brawl attempt. Not much is more entertaining IMO than watching people beat up gicks and sharps in the Gaj, more brawling please!

[Chettaman]

Right. I think if a ''hit'' is successful, the person doing the hitting should be allowed to emote  whatever they want (within reason).

[Barzalene]

I'd like to encourage people to be more hostile during bar fights. So they feel more like fights and less like fooseball games.

[Alesan]

I always thought the brawl messages were entertaining on their own. But maybe that's because I haven't seen them a hundred times before. I'm surprised anyone has time to flesh out brawl code messages considering they scroll across the screen so fast. I also feel like you shouldn't deviate too far from what is "actually" happening, or you start creeping into poweremote territory. It's a grey area to me.

I'd also like to think there isn't too much pressure to flesh out *every* hit, because I know I'm not that creative and I as a player avoid brawls because I don't want to be "that boring person" who just hits and doesn't flesh it out.

[Chettaman]

I want people to be aware of greater brawling possibilities because I feel like it may end up inspiring other types of greater roleplay.

I guess there should also be an etiquette, because I feel like that guy who uses hit like five times in a row is nuts.
There should be a hit from one guy and if he succeeds or fails the other person should be the next person to use hit. (I myself try to ignore when ''someone gets in between you fighting'')

But after using hit (successfully or otherwise) I wait for the next person's response.
>Hit dood - you give him a good right-cross!
>emote puts ~dood a headlock
... wait
The dood elbows you in the ribs!
(in this moment - I know it's already the perfect come back, but like I said. I imagine and expect someone...)
The dood grabs your wrist and bends over flipping you onto your back!

and then it's my turn again!
But if...
The dood swings at you missing entirely.
I would imagine and expect someone to emote being trapped in my head lock despite their attempt to struggle.
And then again it's my turn... muahahaha!

-in a free for all there's usually less etiquette.
*just imagined final fantasy 7 battle intro at the beginning of a bar fight - then turn based bar fighting.

[Asmoth]

You should be able to actually knock someone out instead of getting a message about hurting them more will cause a death or whatever it says.

[Asanadas]

And then all 6 of the stealth elves watching strip the knocked out man naked in a minute without anyone being able to see. No Thanks bro: keep brawling a cool IC gimmick of the seedier taverns and not a killing tool.

[whitt]

And then all 6 of the stealth elves

Ahahahahahahh. Six.  Elves....  Ahahahahhah

EtA:  But seriously,  once you're unconscious subdue doesn't invoke crimcode... so abuse could be bad.

[Jihelu]

People play elves?

[Asanadas]

Just because you've never seen them doesn't mean they're not there.

Edit: and yeah I'm speaking with experience in Allanak crime code... knocking out dudes with brawl would be a bad thing.

[whitt]

Just because you've never seen them doesn't mean they're not there.

One... maybe two... three if there was a convention.   

[Jihelu]

Do the elf drovions account for the stealthed elves?

[Patuk]

The six stealth what now? Desert hide doesn't work inside bars, you know.

[whitt]

I'd like to encourage people to be more hostile during bar fights. So they feel more like fights and less like fooseball games.

I think the lack of potential for bar brawls to escalate beyond Batman levels of *BAM!* *Ka-Pow!* *Kerrrrrr-ASH!* limits the hostility levels of most brawls.  They're more like pastimes than fights.

[Jihelu]

The six stealth what now? Desert hide doesn't work inside bars, you know.

Then city elves fam

[Barzalene]

I'd like to encourage people to be more hostile during bar fights. So they feel more like fights and less like fooseball games.

I think the lack of potential for bar brawls to escalate beyond Batman levels of *BAM!* *Ka-Pow!* *Kerrrrrr-ASH!* limits the hostility levels of most brawls.  They're more like pastimes than fights.

Seems like a case of code trumping role play. It's like you're watching Game of Thrones and they throw in a bar fight from Men in Tights.

[Patuk]

The six stealth what now? Desert hide doesn't work inside bars, you know.

Then city elves fam

Then what elves..?

[solera]

And then all 6 of the stealth elves

Ahahahahahahh. Six.  Elves....  Ahahahahhah

EtA:  But seriously,  once you're unconscious subdue doesn't invoke crimcode... so abuse could be bad.

True? Or just when the victim has no save on?

[fourTwenty]

If you talked shit and got KTFO shouldn't you probably be robbed of most of your shit? Seems fitting.

[Asmoth]

If you talked shit and got KTFO shouldn't you probably be robbed of most of your shit? Seems fitting.

Yup.

This is a game that about three rooms from the city you can murder someone for absolutely no reason.

But we are now suddenly worried that you might get knocked out in a bar fight?

[Kryos]

As a random observation and injection of my experience:  I've seen and been in dozens of bar fights, both on the winning and losing end.  Some were sillier, because they were between mostly amicable parties, some were downright a step away from lethal violence, with noses, fingers and feet broken.  Almost all of them had emotes.  So there are some wonderous bar fighters out there.

[Asanadas]

If you talked shit and got KTFO shouldn't you probably be robbed of most of your shit? Seems fitting.

Yup.

This is a game that about three rooms from the city you can murder someone for absolutely no reason.

But we are now suddenly worried that you might get knocked out in a bar fight?

Ok buddy better just       wait until you walk in, and get me and my buddies to brawl you 10 times really quick to knock you out (no crim flag) then subdue you (no crim flag) and drag you into an alley where I can kill you (no crim flag). Murder corruption betrayal, right?! That's the height of game design you're talking about here. The pinnacle.  

[whitt]

If you talked shit and got KTFO shouldn't you probably be robbed of most of your shit? Seems fitting.

Like all good RP?  Probably not unless you have zero friends (PC or vNPC) there picking you up after you knocked out.  I doubt all the other Bynners in the bar, for instance, are going to sit idly by while Runner Amos is picked clean.  Or that most anyone else is going be left like an unwanted corpse on the pile either.  A few things grabbed off?  Maybe to Sure if it's a breed for example.  But in general?  It seems like pretty standard behavior in the Gaj to just ignore someone passed out on the floor.

[Asmoth]

If you talked shit and got KTFO shouldn't you probably be robbed of most of your shit? Seems fitting.

Yup.

This is a game that about three rooms from the city you can murder someone for absolutely no reason.

But we are now suddenly worried that you might get knocked out in a bar fight?

Ok buddy better just       wait until you walk in, and get me and my buddies to brawl you 10 times really quick to knock you out (no crim flag) then subdue you (no crim flag) and drag you into an alley where I can kill you (no crim flag). Murder corruption betrayal, right?! That's the height of game design you're talking about here. The pinnacle.  

Using code to your advantage isn't a bad thing.

[manipura]

If you talked shit and got KTFO shouldn't you probably be robbed of most of your shit? Seems fitting.

Yup.

This is a game that about three rooms from the city you can murder someone for absolutely no reason.

But we are now suddenly worried that you might get knocked out in a bar fight?

Ok buddy better just       wait until you walk in, and get me and my buddies to brawl you 10 times really quick to knock you out (no crim flag) then subdue you (no crim flag) and drag you into an alley where I can kill you (no crim flag). Murder corruption betrayal, right?! That's the height of game design you're talking about here. The pinnacle. 

Using code to your advantage isn't a bad thing.

Well, just because the code allows you to do something, it doesn't mean you should disregard the game world to do it.

[whitt]

Using code to your advantage isn't a bad thing.

Suppose I'll edit out all the other things ahead of Delirium needing to do it and just say... no.  Plain.  No.  

Or maybe simply point out that using and abusing are two very different things.

[Asanadas]

Using code to your advantage isn't a bad thing.

Suppose I'll edit out all the other things ahead of Delirium needing to do it and just say... no.  Plain.  No.  

Or maybe simply point out that using and abusing are two very different things.

I'd concur. You know when people talk about not wanting to give other players the benefit of the doubt -- to always be looking at the meta side not to lose out terribly -- well, there are players around that make such a caution a necessity. Wish that wasn't the case. That's the type of reason why brawl code is limited, maybe. /back on topic

[Chettaman]

Bar fighting is the topic.
Bar fighting. If you want to do more than harm someone's pride than you use the ''kill'' command.
That's my take on it. If you want to knock someone out. There's a command for that.

During a bar fight: if you get too violent, like I do see many people do... you /should/ use the kill command. - but ... if you actually agree that you just wanted to hit the person then ''hit'' makes sense.
If you get into a fight where you actually want to beat someone to the inch of their life... that's the kill command. I know, I know... you don't want to go to jail. It is, of course, asking too much to allow your characters to suffer any consequence because this game is supposed to be fun. Oh well. I guess just keep spamming the ''hit'' command.

''hit'' and bar fight are two different things; although it is easy to use hit during a bar fight. It is just as easy to use ''kill''. ... it will still be a bar fight. But a very serious one.

[Miradus]

I've only seen one bar fight, and it was pretty ridiculous. The one guy emoted hitting every round and jump kicking up in the air like a scene from the Matrix (even though he was missing every round). The other guy didn't emote at all and the emoter was unconscious on the floor in about six rounds.

[Desertman]

I wish we would just go the route of unarmed combat isn't against the law in "brawl rooms". If you "brawl" it would just initiate basic unarmed combat just like any other unarmed combat. If you continued to attack someone after they were unconscious you would get a message like:

"They are already down. If you keep going it will be considered an attempt at murder and soldiers will react accordingly. Type "hit <target>" now if you wish to continue."

Keep the bitch-mode lock in place that makes it so you can't attack someone that is sitting down. (This prevents people from running in and attacking AFK players.)

While I don't like the whole, "They are on the magical safe-stool so you can't touch them no matter how much shit they talk." code, if we implemented actual unarmed coded combat into brawl rooms I see it as a necessary evil.

Right now I see most people use the brawl code as just another goofy spar-time-in-the-tavern mechanic to try and show off to everyone in a completely safe environment how "badass" they are.

9/10 times it's just goofy fucknuts that say shit like:

"Hey, it's our day off! Let's brawl each other good buddy!"
"Yeah good buddy! Let's brawl! It's so much fun!"

Then the room gets spammed up with fucking retards being fucking retards.

An actual element of danger needs to exist in the brawl code since in reality getting into a bar fight in Zalanthas shouldn't be "super safe fun time for the entire family", which is how it is treated now.

Edited to Add:

Not to mention the fucking idiots who don't realize that the brawl code doesn't take into account multiple opponents. I can't tell you how many times I've seen this:

"I am John The Bar Warrior! I just beat up four people at once by myself and didn't take a single hit in this bar! I am so badass!".

The fucknut doesn't realize the code works so that he is actually brawling four different people one at a time instead of four people all at once.

Just...what a shitshow that entire code is. A completely goofy shitshow.

[Synthesis]

Oh noooo, people are having fuuuuun.

Somebody stop them, quick!

[Asanadas]

If you want the Gaj to be emptier than it has been recently, then go ahead and put in a way for people to knock somebody out without coded repercussions. I guarantee you, there will be no- one but griefers in the Gaj waiting for someone important to walk in and punch.

[nauta]

A modest proposal:

o Eliminate the brawl code entirely.

o Create a room in each bar with no crim-code (move the soldiers out of sight, vNPCs won't flag you as a criminal or wanted).

o Make this room visible from the main room like the arena (just fluff, but it'd be cool).

[Synthesis]

There's already a crime-free room visible from the Gaj:  it's called "the street, at night."

Go get 'em, tigers. Knock yourselves out.

[Chettaman]

I can agree with making unarmed combat ----less---- illegal, Dman.
Get into a bar fight with hit and it's just fun and games.
Get into a bar fight with kill and it becomes combat! Then off to jail with you for I dunno... ten - twenty minutes ... or pay a fine or something.

[Patuk]

There's already a crime-free room visible from the Gaj:  it's called "the street, at night."

Go get 'em, tigers. Knock yourselves out.

Not anymore, thank fuck.

[Desertman]

I just feel the current brawl code has no place in the theme of Armageddon as a whole.

It is at its very best a cotton construct being paraded around in what's supposed to be a hardmode game.

I personally find it both IC'ly and OOC'ly jarring.

We have a game where physical conflict is supposed to be a serious affair, but we decided to write an entire code around physical conflict that turns it into The Lord of The Rings meets World Wrestling Entertainment.

Every time someone starts using the brawl code I expect to see The Nacho Can Sandy Ravage come running in from the north shouting, "Ooooh yeahhh! ELBOW OFF THE BARTOP! LET THE FAKE BLOOD FLOW!!!".

[Jihelu]

I just feel the current brawl code has no place in the theme of Armageddon as a whole.

It is at its very best a cotton construct being paraded around in what's supposed to be a hardmode game.

I personally find it both IC'ly and OOC'ly jarring.

We have a game where physical conflict is supposed to be a serious affair, but we decided to write an entire code around physical conflict that turns it into The Lord of The Rings meet World Wrestling Entertainment.

Every time someone starts using the brawl code I expect to see The Nacho Can Sandy Ravage come running in from the north shouting, "Ooooh yeahhh! ELBOW OFF THE BARTOP! LET THE FAKE BLOOD FLOW!!!".

Which reminds me.
When are we getting slams/grapples?

[Desertman]

I just feel the current brawl code has no place in the theme of Armageddon as a whole.

It is at its very best a cotton construct being paraded around in what's supposed to be a hardmode game.

I personally find it both IC'ly and OOC'ly jarring.

We have a game where physical conflict is supposed to be a serious affair, but we decided to write an entire code around physical conflict that turns it into The Lord of The Rings meet World Wrestling Entertainment.

Every time someone starts using the brawl code I expect to see The Nacho Can Sandy Ravage come running in from the north shouting, "Ooooh yeahhh! ELBOW OFF THE BARTOP! LET THE FAKE BLOOD FLOW!!!".

Which reminds me.
When are we getting slams/grapples?

I don't know, but I just had a good laugh. This reminded me of the time I saw the dwarf Korath in game elbow drop a dead body.

I think the emote was something like...

The dwarf Korath leaps into the air and comes down on the already dead body of the so-and-so man giving him the elbow drop!

The guy had already been dead for a good thirty seconds but Korath just wasn't finished.

I laughed for a good long while.

[Miradus]

That's it. If I ever get in a barfight and knock my opponent out, I'm climbing up on the bar and jumping down on them, going for the pin.

[Riev]

That's it. If I ever get in a barfight and knock my opponent out, I'm climbing up on the bar and jumping down on them, going for the pin.

I wrote up a PC who wanted, more than anything else, to be a wrestler.

I could NOT figure out how to legally practice subduing things to train my awesome skills, and then realized size is SUCH a factor it wasn't worth while.

[Jihelu]

That's it. If I ever get in a barfight and knock my opponent out, I'm climbing up on the bar and jumping down on them, going for the pin.

I wrote up a PC who wanted, more than anything else, to be a wrestler.

I could NOT figure out how to legally practice subduing things to train my awesome skills, and then realized size is SUCH a factor it wasn't worth while.

Join the army.

[IAmJacksOpinion]

9/10 times it's just goofy fucknuts that say shit like:

"Hey, it's our day off! Let's brawl each other good buddy!"
"Yeah good buddy! Let's brawl! It's so much fun!"

Then the room gets spammed up with fucking retards being fucking retards.

That I can agree with you on. "Hey guys, we beat each other half to death with sticks 10 days a week, want to punch each other in the face for the other two?" (Too lazy to look up the Zalanthan calendar.) I think there was one time in my life were I had a bare knuckle fight for "fun". I was 16, drunk as hell, and we both gave up after a couple good hits each because at that point my face was lopsided and his eyebrow was cut open. Bare knuckle boxing isn't "fun", and I have a hard time believing people would do it if there wasn't at least some kind of money or dispute involved - which there never is in these cases.

That being said, I'm still not fond of the idea of completely opening up unarmed "kill" in the bar. The main reason being that, unarmed combat working as it does, an opponent with moderately higher offense and a good strength score can KO you in like 2-4 rounds, no problem. That's not enough time to emote, flee, or do much else. While I agree that there should be consequences to wandering into the Gaj and shit-talking a mercenary and his friends, usually it's the other way around. My personal experience has been that for every 1 bar brawl I've been in that had a realistic motive, 2 of them have resulted from bored Bynners attacking me with almost no provocation or warning. With subdue and steal working the way they do on unconscious people, I can see "brawling" replacing shit digging as the new Ocandra money maker.

[RogueGunslinger]

We're criticizing bar brawling now?   

[Desertman]

We're criticizing bar brawling now?  

Not bar brawling, just the code that currently governs bar brawling.

[Synthesis]

We're criticizing bar brawling now?  

Not bar brawling, just the code that currently governs bar brawling.

If the code were realistic, the combatants would get so winded within several flurries that they couldn't continue, and would spend the rest of the scene gasping for breath and trying to act hard.

Fighting is goddamn hard work.

[Desertman]

We're criticizing bar brawling now?  

Not bar brawling, just the code that currently governs bar brawling.

If the code were realistic, the combatants would get so winded within several flurries that they couldn't continue, and would spend the rest of the scene gasping for breath and trying to act hard.

Fighting is goddamn hard work.

Eh. I don't want to get into a debate about the realism of combat. I know guys that can fight at a high level for fifteen to twenty five minutes and come up still ready to go.

I also know guys who will gas in a minute and a half.

Zalanthans, especially PC's that are combat oriented, have been known on many occasions to fight spiders the size of a moving van with a stone sword in sandstorms and 130 degree weather quite literally ALL DAY.

I just don't feel the realism front is really the way to go here.

[Synthesis]

We're criticizing bar brawling now?  

Not bar brawling, just the code that currently governs bar brawling.

If the code were realistic, the combatants would get so winded within several flurries that they couldn't continue, and would spend the rest of the scene gasping for breath and trying to act hard.

Fighting is goddamn hard work.

Eh. I don't want to get into a debate about the realism of combat. I know guys that can fight at a high level for fifteen to twenty five minutes and come up still ready to go.

I also know guys who will gas in a minute and a half.

Zalanthans, especially PC's that are combat oriented, have been known on many occasions to fight spiders the size of a moving van with a stone sword in sandstorms and 130 degree weather quite literally ALL DAY.

I just don't feel the realism front is really the way to go here.

Well, yeah, if you have plenty of fighting experience, you can get away with it.

Most PCs "claim" to have plenty of fighting experience, but there aren't many who can actually fight spiders the size of a moving van and win, when you get right down to it.

[BadSkeelz]

I once had a runner in my unit called "the scarred, albino elf" or something. One day we were in the Gaj when "the albino, scarred elf" walks out of the dorms.

Of course I demanded that my runner fight the new guy. And of course, the Runner went straight for the kill and got splattered.

Promptly let the "albino, scarred elf" know the Byn had an opening if he was interested.

I guess what I'm saying is: be careful about egging newbies on in brawls.

[evilcabbage]

the spiders are man-sized.

if you are fighting spiders the size of a van, that is terrifying.

[Synthesis]

the spiders are man-sized.

if you are fighting spiders the size of a van, that is terrifying.

There are various types, and they aren't all the same size.

Especially that one.

#justsayin

[Chettaman]

I can fight for hours. Literally. (show boating) Also, I love fighting - despite injuries.
You can already use "kill" in a bar.
I was thinking about it, though and if you went to jail for less time for such a thing, I guess it would encourage more actual use of the "kill" command and there would be way more unconscious, vulnerable people.

...so now... I want to just encourage the use of the kill command if you:

Code Select Expand

>hit punk
he looks too out of it to take another hit.
>hit punk
he looks too out of it to take another hit.
>hit punk
he looks too out of it to take another hit.
>hit punk
he looks too out of it to take another hit.
>hit punk
he looks too out of it to take another hit.
>hit punk
he looks too out of it to take another hit.

>tell punk (retaking his stool) You're not worth my time, punk.
>sit bar

if you're that guy. Just use the kill command and accept your fate because it's what you /are/ doing practically.
And be ready to surrender because the guards are commin' suckuh!
I also recommend roleplaying guards comming in to stop the fight maybe /before/ the kill command or something. Also possible to do.

[Miradus]

In reality, if I suspected there were spiders that big even on the same CONTINENT as me I would curl into the fetal position and never recover.

I like to think of myself as a badass tough-guy in every regard EXCEPT spiders. It's the pedipalps. I can't abide pedipalps.

[RogueGunslinger]

[evilcabbage]

nooooooooooope

[Asmoth]

These were in Iraq when I was there.  Creepy shits.

[Miradus]

We slept with our boots in our sleeping bags to keep those things out of there. Any hole we dug, there would be cool sand beneath and every stinkin' thing with too many legs would crawl into the hole with us to cool off.

Find something like that in your MOPP and you don't care what the air is like.

[Doublepalli]

I'm very cautious when it comes to bar brawling now. Unless it's a pc in game my guy is acquainted with and I know for sure is not a noob, because it can go south really fast. I've noticed some people who even think emoting in league with the bar brawl code is poweremoting.

emote sends a left hook at ~elf!
the bulbous-nosed, rotten-toothed runner sends a left hook at a skinny, shit-stained elf!

hit elf

you send the elf stumbling with a right cross.

the skinny, shit-stained elf swings at you, missing entirely
you grab them by the shoulder sending them slamming into a wall.

hit elf
you bend the skinny, shit-stained elf over and ram a knee into their gut.

emote rushes and slams the elf into the wall again, throwing a heavy gut-shot.

And then some people will pull the powergaming flag. From my experience, either someone kicks you or types kill instead of hit and dies, the pc isn't acquainted with brawling or willing, or you know the pc has been around and the brawl ends up being of epic proportions. I love bar brawls, because the brawl code allows you and other players another opportunity at some funny, thrilling roleplay, but sometimes people really don't like their characters face being punched in, and they'll run out, or ignore rp too. It's a game, an RPI, sit back and make the most out of the good and bad, because each character is a story. Just have to take the next step and get really creative with it!

It would be cool if Kick could be a dual-feature, in both combat, and brawling code, because honestly, if I was in a brawl, I'd be kicking too, and it throws alot of newbies off. Make stun dmg more realistic to race. When an elf in a brawl hits you for 40 stun, it's like whoa. Then the big-armed dwarf hits you for two stun, or that sergeant human somehow is not hurting you at all. Brawl damage seems very random to me.

[Desertman]

This scene may in fact perfectly depict the exact flow of around 97% of the bar fights I have seen in game with the current code...up to and including the dialogue and facial expressions made.

[Chettaman]

Double says it can sometimes be too much. - I'm tellin' ya. Just pull your punches. If you're really willing to go full combat on a guy just use the kill command. I understand, it's difficult to tell when you're going nuts on a guy's face and you're having a good time - and I recently learned a new argument, "I feel like I'm playing for someone else." (the conversation had nothing to do with the brawl code) - which is a reasonable argument, I guess - not only that - sometimes the /other/ guy can't take the hint. >hit the guy one more time, emote throwing his dumbass outside and settle it there. Either he'll attack you for real or he'll back down from how serious you are. You can even give him options. You could even bully him.
I dunno... aside from the guy that doesn't know when to quit it's difficult deciding yourself, when to quit. But figure it out.

Desertman says it can be too little.
I won't lie. Sometimes I'm that guy - but it's tough roleplaying a tough guy that gets his ass kicked when the person your brawling with doesn't help you out! I don't consider it power emoting, I just think the person I'm bammin' with just doesn't realize I'd rather roleplay than use this code that decides our fates. I mean I'll use the code to help decide who actually wins, but I mean... gimme a break. You don't /actually/ have to emote sending a right cross into my jaw.

You don't have to! Fuck the system! Roleplay like human beings not like computers!
Roleplay because of the system. Don't let the system be your roleplay.

extreme argument: Why ever emote if the system will spit out emotes for you?

[Desertman]

extreme argument: Why ever emote if the system will spit out emotes for you?

Because the system emotes, on their VERY BEST DAY, are the Diet Coke of a poorly put together WWE match where both combatants are in fact comedic relief and not even part of the "main show". (Where even the main show is a show about comedic relief.)

[evilcabbage]

hit chettaman

you send him staggering with a right cross.

emote takes his fist, and plants it brutally against %chettaman sternum, following up with a bone-crackling left hook.

[Chettaman]

it's been so long since I've actually bar fought. *tear

emote recovers with a vengeful roar and a charge towards ~cabbage!

hit cabbage

your punch at the evil cabbage misses entirely!

[Jihelu]

em falls flat on his face as vomit leaves his open mouth.


I haven't used hit in fucking...
Since my first character.
Jesus.