How does babby get ignoreded?

Started by Malken, December 10, 2012, 02:11:27 PM

Quote from: Maso on December 12, 2012, 08:03:01 AM
I'm pretty sure there's all sorts of 'official staff opinions' scattered over the GDB about things you can and can't do, and should and shouldn't do. If I had the time to go digging then I probably wouldn't have made that previous comment! Ya know? :)

Okay.  I assume you mean helpfiles in general and not added to the rules.  The rules of the game are the rules of the game in "help rules" and I don't really think we need to expand that to include everything discussed by staff on the GDB (or even most things, or even some things, or even all things in which staff say it is the official staff position on something--especially when you can just search the GDB as easily as you can search the helpfiles).  However, once you do find one of those things that isn't in a helpfile (but it maybe should be in a helpfile--but it is only on the GDB), please idea it in-game.  We'll go ahead and close off this unrelated derail for now.
Quote from: LauraMars on December 15, 2016, 08:17:36 PMPaint on a mustache and be a dude for a day. Stuff some melons down my shirt, cinch up a corset and pass as a girl.

With appropriate roleplay of course.

Someone should add custom pregnancy "scars" to the scar room.

<face> an enormous gravid uterus
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Quote from: Synthesis on December 12, 2012, 08:27:17 AM
Someone should add custom pregnancy "scars" to the scar room.

<face> an enormous gravid uterus

And code that as a wear location!
Varak:You tell the mangy, pointy-eared gortok, in sirihish: "What, girl? You say the sorceror-king has fallen down the well?"
Ghardoan:A pitiful voice rises from the well below, "I've fallen and I can't get up..."

Quote from: Malken on December 12, 2012, 08:18:00 AM
Quote from: Marauder Moe on December 12, 2012, 08:08:06 AM
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Quote from: RogueGunslinger on December 11, 2012, 09:12:41 PM
Quote from: Bast on December 11, 2012, 09:08:26 PM
I always ask for consent from the baby daddy before getting prego. Just seems like a horrible thing to force on another player depending on the situation. I also always role D10s

Or don't do that. And open up tons of fun RP?

What if the daddy is shooting blanks?

What if it's in his background that he's shooting blanks and the woman suddenly announces that she's pregnant!

Oh my.
How would he know?

The player would know.

Should we be putting things in our background that are (practically) unknowable to our characters?  Additionally, fertility is not usually a binary value, is it?

Musing aside, fertility probably ought to be discussed OOCly after mudsex.

I don't have in my background "and on this day of the 21st Age, unbeknownst to himself, Amos' testes became little more than a convenient place to kick him." But I would say in my first character report that this character has various physical quirks and what impact they will have (if any) on how I roleplay them. I treat them like low-grade mutations: something that probably doesn't need staff approval, but I thought the staff might like to know about.

Quote from: Marauder Moe on December 12, 2012, 08:38:00 AM
Should we be putting things in our background that are (practically) unknowable to our characters?  Additionally, fertility is not usually a binary value, is it?

Musing aside, fertility probably ought to be discussed OOCly after mudsex.

No, of course not, it would probably be ridiculous to put something like that in your character's background unless it was very important to your character's background.

My point was to illustrate why it might not be a bad idea for the woman to briefly speak about it with her partner before she decides to get pregnant.

Maybe the guy is just sick of playing characters that ends up trapped with children and child-related roleplay but would still enjoy a meaningful relationship of sort?

Relationship != mudsex.. Not sure why everyone is saying that if you mudsex, then you need to deal with the risk of pregnancy.

Faders never get pregnant then?

I don't know.. This is getting a bit ridiculous, I'll admit :) I don't really see myself fading and then having to explain to my partner that I pulled out in time or that my character is shooting blank. Usually, when you fade it's because you don't want to deal with that sort of stuff.

I just think that assuming that your partner is healthy and would get you pregnant whenever you decide to become pregnant is a bit one-sided.. Almost like forced emote. Not just quite.

I'll let you guys discuss child kidnapping instead.
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Quote from: Marauder Moe on December 12, 2012, 08:38:00 AM

Should we be putting things in our background that are (practically) unknowable to our characters? 

Sure! I think it's always more interesting to put things in character's backgrounds that you know, but that they don't know (and may or not get to discover). But that's another topic. ;)


As for pregancy, etc. I can't imagine dealing will lil'uns IRL just to log into Arm when I have a break and take care/worry about lil'uns there. No thanks.
Fear is the mind-killer.

My last PC had sex a grand total of one time ... faded ... and she still got pregnant  >:(

I stored before I had to pay child support though. Who's laughing now?!
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All my PCs shoot blanks unless I say otherwise!
Quote from: Adhira on January 01, 2014, 07:15:46 PM
I could give a shit about wholesome.

I always either ask ooc if I can roll for it if there's even a chance I want to,and IC, if, I haven't asked about it but they express interest, I use the roller. There is a roughly 1 in 10 chance for a yes. That would give about ant 85% chance over an IC year, depending on frequency to go with what I understand is the average chances or rates, if they do not take mul mix. Doing things arbitrarily and without at least implied consent on both sides on an ooc level if not IC level, it's not going to be fun for the other player, and that's not the object of the game, yeah?
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If your baby is being ignored, you are using the wrong seasonings.
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Quote from: FantasyWriter on December 12, 2012, 06:50:25 PM
If your baby is being ignored, you are using the wrong seasonings.

>taste blue
>you accidentally the baby.
This tastes like ordinary meat.
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Except me. I remember every death. And I am coming for you bastards.

December 12, 2012, 06:57:03 PM #112 Last Edit: December 12, 2012, 07:27:21 PM by Maso
It's just another situation/hurdle/challenge like any other....There is no rulebook anywhere that says the alleged Father has to take on any parental responsibilities in any way shape or form. They can tell the mother to piss off. They can run away They can say it isn't theirs. They can kill her. They have a huge number of options open to them, and likely a fair selection of responses to choose from within any type of personality.

It's usually not fun for a player when their character gets killed....but you don't ask for their consent first do you? But at the same time, you have to consider that if your character doesn't mention it IC to the daddy character...and then also does not take mulmix or whatever....then those actions need to fit within the realms of mummy PC's personality (irresponsible behaviour/deliberate entrapment etc) and there should be a justifiable thought process there too. In the majority of circumstances, I don't really see a need to take stuff like this OOC.

If the percentage of vNPC's/NPC's that reproduced was the same as the percentage of PC's....there wouldn't be anyone left in the Known.
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Quote from: Delirium on November 28, 2012, 02:26:33 AM
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Quote from: FantasyWriter on December 12, 2012, 06:50:25 PM
If your baby is being ignored, you are using the wrong seasonings.

>taste blue
>you accidentally the baby. The WHOLE thing!
This tastes like ordinary meat.

FTFY.
Quote from: Twilight on January 22, 2013, 08:17:47 PMGreb - To scavenge, forage, and if Whira is with you, loot the dead.
Grebber - One who grebs.

If your character can walk up to mine a while after having sex and tell me she's pregnant, I'm able to decide when she happens to get pregnant, too. This is my seed and I say it got you knocked up; dump the kid at Winrothol/Borsail if you don't like it.
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December 12, 2012, 08:31:25 PM #115 Last Edit: December 12, 2012, 08:32:57 PM by musashi
I support that as well.

Not really though. If you want to have the say so over when your PC gets knocked up, unlike RL, you can just roll up a woman and pregger away.
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Oh my god he's still rocking the sandwich.

Not baby-related, but similar:

"you now have zagu-la, crotch rot. there is no way you could escape it from my fluids."

A long time ago, but one of the most memorable funny things I've witnessed while shadowing someone.
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em pulls out and finishes in a mug of ale.
Quote from: Twilight on January 22, 2013, 08:17:47 PMGreb - To scavenge, forage, and if Whira is with you, loot the dead.
Grebber - One who grebs.

A few of my characters have ended up having kids.  They've alternatively had a contingency plan in case, someone ready to keep the brat, stored to take care of the kids, junked actual obsidian to pay for a wet nurse, or intended to abandon or sell it.  I believe I planned on having one die in childbirth though I can't remember whether I actually did plan that, or just thought about it.
Former player as of 2/27/23, sending love.

I like this idea of asking the other person, sort've. I mean, I've never had a baby IG so this is just speculation, but it never occurred to me before to consider how the player of the male PC might feel about a virtual baby. I would have just figured they didn't give an eff. I guess you guys just have way more depth in your game romances than I do.

IsFriday, have any of your girls given live birth?

December 13, 2012, 12:14:33 PM #120 Last Edit: December 13, 2012, 12:16:21 PM by hyzhenhok
Quote from: evilcabbage on December 12, 2012, 06:39:49 PM
All my PCs shoot blanks unless I say otherwise!

This is actually why it's necessary for the player of the female PC to not necessarily get consent, but at least make sure that the guy they decide gets to be a daddy isn't infertile. You can do this by asking OOC or having an IC conversation about the topic.

If you unilaterally decide you got pregnant, you'll have no room to complain when the "father" suddenly reveals later that he is infertile and therefore absolutely could not be the father. ;)

There is literally no way a Zalanthan guy could know that they were infertile. They could suspect it. They could know it's hard for them to get a girl knocked up....but they couldn't *know*. And fertility comes and goes, with factors like diet, stress, exercise, spice habits (?) etc....So even if tpb behind a PC 'knows' that their PC is entirely fertile...if a girl says she got knocked up by said PC...the PC themselves could be persuaded to believe it too (I'm cured!).
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Quote from: Delirium on November 28, 2012, 02:26:33 AM
I don't always act superior... but when I do it's on the forums of a text-based game

That's true, but as the writer of the character you can determine the permitters and infertility could be one of them. A really odd, persnickety one, but sure.

In which case the writer of the impregnated would have to begin having vague memories of something that happened when she was drunk..a few months back. This cannot be such a big deal.

BTW, totally grossed out by the idea of adding in pregnancy scars.

<head>  blown
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Quote from: path on December 13, 2012, 11:11:37 AM
I like this idea of asking the other person, sort've. I mean, I've never had a baby IG so this is just speculation, but it never occurred to me before to consider how the player of the male PC might feel about a virtual baby. I would have just figured they didn't give an eff.

I asked once and the player was like "I'm not about to tell you what to do with your character." Since then I realized... Hmmm... maybe they're right, it's my character's body, another player shouldn't have any say unless they're doing something TO them, like torture, main, scar etc. I roll for everything so much so that staff once told me they weren't interested in micromanaging my character's pregnancies. Heh.

If a male PC is doing the horizontal Fale mambo and doesn't wanna breed, mulmix that bitch. No different than carrying a condom. There's also the whole "Oh sure I wanna breed and am happy lurving yew forevah" stance right before you murder the bitch. Perfect for a breed that looks human but doesn't want his elfiness continuing.

Quote from: path on December 13, 2012, 11:11:37 AMIsFriday, have any of your girls given live birth?

I laughed so hard coffee flew out of my nose.

Quote from: Maso on December 13, 2012, 12:38:46 PM
There is literally no way a Zalanthan guy could know that they were infertile.

Yuh huh, if they're muls they know for sure.
I'm taking an indeterminate break from Armageddon for the foreseeable future and thereby am not available for mudsex.
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