How does babby get ignoreded?

[Maso]

Muls don't count. They not really people anyway.

[ShaLeah]

Muls don't count. They not really people anyway.

Yes but they get sooooooooooo testy when you remind them of that.
(I totally laughed out loud that my kids were like "What's so funny?!?")

[Akaramu]

The ultimate contraception: Do it with a mul.

[Marauder Moe]

More importantly, if a female PC is kanking a mul, she probably ought to notice that fact and should know not to roll for preggers.


Actually, now that I think about it more, if your non-mul male PC has sterility written in his background for some reason, I'd suggest perhaps the onus is on you to OOCly convey that abnormality during/after mudsex, rather than on the female PC's player to ask about it.

[Synthesis]

If you're non-dwarf, you can also get it on with dwarves, because IIRC it takes additional shenanigans to form mul babby.  Still waiting on the day I shadow someone into some hawt elf on dwarf action.

[Spider]

New Focus:

Become a stud in the House Borsail mul breeding division.

[benegesseritwitch]

Not baby-related, but similar:

"you now have zagu-la, crotch rot. there is no way you could escape it from my fluids."

A long time ago, but one of the most memorable funny things I've witnessed while shadowing someone.

If you're non-dwarf, you can also get it on with dwarves, because IIRC it takes additional shenanigans to form mul babby.  Still waiting on the day I shadow someone into some hawt elf on dwarf action.

People shadow people to watch mudsex?  *innocence shattered*

[thatkid]

Not baby-related, but similar:

"you now have zagu-la, crotch rot. there is no way you could escape it from my fluids."

A long time ago, but one of the most memorable funny things I've witnessed while shadowing someone.

If you're non-dwarf, you can also get it on with dwarves, because IIRC it takes additional shenanigans to form mul babby.  Still waiting on the day I shadow someone into some hawt elf on dwarf action.

People shadow people to watch mudsex?  *innocence shattered*

this is why people roll burglars right

[racurtne]

On-topic

I'm of the stance that Merchant and Noble Houses take care of their employees' children. This is just a good investment for the future, and makes sense. I imagine many house employees are generational.

I also believe the military of both city-states would do the same. Raising those future soldiers raised from birth in a military lifestyle just seems like a good plan for your run-of-the-mill military-state.

[Harmless]

I don't want to depress anybody, but even infants can survive with once a day feedings. They will be horribly, horribly hurt by that level of neglect, and it has permanent impact. But they can survive it, and survival is adequate for a slaver's stable. Look into the state of orphanages even today if you feel like getting more depressed.

If adult Zalanthans can handle a brutal mauling from a scrab on a weekly basis and still operate at their peak level for years... well, I'm actually a little sick to my stomach to imagine what would be possible with that theoretical human limitation lifted. I don't think anybody in this community has really pushed the theme of baby-abuse to its limit. At least not that I've seen. (No judging those who have, really. It all fits in the setting. Just consent, please.)

[Maso]

There are scientific studies into the stressors that can effect a babies growth and development, and while occasional malnutrition might not kill a baby it will increase the chance of various illnesses later in life. Also, a lack of maternal affection (physical proximity) is a proven stressor that will stunt the growth of infants and children. While the details of such scientific studies might not readily available to the slave breeding Houses of Zalanthas, they would likely be pretty experienced and knowledgeable about what breeds a strong, healthy and well-minded product and therefore would provide for them in a manner suitable for the desired outcome. Some slavers might be guilty of unhealthy levels of neglect and nutrition, but this probably wouldn't extend to Borsail and whatever their Northern counterpart is - they have reputations to uphold.

[Barzalene]

I don't want to depress anybody, but even infants can survive with once a day feedings. They will be horribly, horribly hurt by that level of neglect, and it has permanent impact. But they can survive it, and survival is adequate for a slaver's stable. Look into the state of orphanages even today if you feel like getting more depressed.

I also encountered this recently re-reading Beloved. (Beautiful book, if you like beautiful books.) And while the differences between American slavery and Zalanthan are too different to be comparable (in Zalanthan one might prefer to be owned as you gain a value you wouldn't otherwise have and you reduce your vulnerability to the uncertainties of Zalanthan life) it does touch on the concept that Harmless mentions in the quote above.

[Fredd]

I don't know. Just a difference of vision I guess. My feeling is, in a world where resources are scarce, and labor is more plentiful than jobs most people aren't important enough that they'd take on the trouble or expense of providing daycare. I think you'd be lucky not to be fired the second you start to show.

Now if one were to promise said child like some kind of indenture that might do it. But they'd probably have your brat washing dishes as soon as it could stand next to the sand barrel,

I'm all for sellin' dem babies.

Sure, sell that virtual baby to the virtual slavers get some virtual sid. Better than having to have that virtual baby, interact with it the first few weeks then give it to your virtual parents in their virtual house to virtually raise them because the sands are too rough to raise babies on. Then when people ask you how's the kid you can say it's great! Nothing bad ever happens to it because it's safe with my parents who have been in a monogamous, loving and loyal relationship for forty years! Did I tell you I'm pregnant again!? Amos and Waloola are exactly a year apart and this one will be too! My boss thinks it's GREAT because I make the best bone swords in the known.

I roll for pgs, then once I roll positive I roll gender and viability and whether it will come on time, early or late. I find babies in bars on Zalanthas weirder than I do babies in bars in real life because in real life everyone isn't armed, most people aren't mercenaries or cut throats or evil gemmers.

I'd fire an employee who got knocked up without having earned that whole loyalty thing. I may even kill them if I was in the position for wasting my time and sid with that procreate and continue your line tribal mindset. On the other hand, if it's a trusted employee, a lifer, I'd be hooting and hollering because the it'd seem more likely that that parent will raise them a die hard X House Fan. Kinda like a modern day Sports Fan, you raise them to be what you want them to be.

That said! I'd totally have boog's and Barz's babies in a NY minute.

I've sold a baby to a non virtual slaver icly before. a couple years back. Wont say who, where blah blah. But it may still be an option. Find out IC.

[Zoan]

Did the baby get stored immediately afterwards?

[Inks]

I am 100% with Harmless' earlier post. Anyone who has the energy and will to RP pregnancy and especially a baby make the world so much richer, even if your baby annoys the crud out of my character IC. I respect you greatly as a player, no matter how poorly you treat your virtual spawn. When I think of Zalanthan babies I think of Dwarf Fortress parents.
Kudos to you all.
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