Stat Range Option

[Sephiroto]

There is a timeless debate about how stats do and don't affect a PC.  Over the years the staff has modified the code to allow for prioritization of stats and even for their adjustment due to age.  Dispite all the hard work gone into stats, we're still left with gripes about unplayable rolls.  Therefore I propose the following: Stat Ranges.

There are 3 ranges.  

Normal Range.  Stat rolls remain as they are now, random from Poor to AI.  
Medium Range: Stats roll from Average to Very Good.  
Tight Range: Stats roll from Above Average to Good.

These 3 ranges would give players the ability to ensure that their stats fit somewhat of a mold that allow them to be what they want them to be.  The available ranges would ensure that all players could have "playable" stats whenever they wanted them, but with proper sacrifice of higher teir stat rolls.

Discuss.

EDIT: I tightened the ranges a bit.

[Qzzrbl]

I'd fuck it.

+1

::EDIT:: Now wait.... Is this before, or after age and size and race and class modifiers?

[Cutthroat]

If such an idea were put into place, the ranges should definitely be tighter. A guaranteed average or above average stat should come at a higher cost.

Normal Range.  Stat rolls remain as they are now, random from Poor to AI.
Tight Range: Stats roll from Average to Good.

If a player absolutely doesn't want poor stats, then they should have to settle for fairly mediocre ones.

[Sephiroto]

Now wait.... Is this before, or after age and size and race and class modifiers?

My idea was that stat ranges would affect the final results you see in your score, not the pre-race/size/class modifiers.

[The7DeadlyVenomz]

I prefer the current system.

[Fnord]

Good bye low stats.

[roughneck]

wouldn't use it

[jstorrie]

I don't think the gripes about low stats need to be addressed.

[musashi]

I don't think the gripes about low stats need to be addressed.

If everyone could get average or better rolls all the time, then very good would just become the new poor, and we'd suicide anything that wasn't exceptional or above.

[Spice Spice Baby]

Personally I don't find this necessary and wouldn't use it.

[Sephiroto]

Personally, I would use normal stat rolls also because I'm a veteran and more than willing to work with a Poor stat, but there are people who might want "normal" stats across the board and would be very happy with it.  That's what I'm advocating for.

I don't see how Very Good would become the new poor.  Where do you get that idea?  Very Good or Good would be the new AI for some people and Average/AA respectively would be the new Poor.  And, under my proposal, the only way to get an Exceptional stat would be to use the normal roll set anyway.  If anything, there would be less storages and suicides because people who want to have moderate stats can now be guaranteed them.

[musashi]

I guess I'm just saying that people don't actually want moderate stats. They want awesome stats.

[Qzzrbl]

I would use this.

[Xagon]

I'm against this, but I still advocate the ability to rollback to your previous reroll. There is nothing more disappointing than having all your "below average" stats suddenly become poor.

[RogueGunslinger]

What about the option to get above average on every stat.

[brytta.leofa]

What about the option to get above average on every stat.

But then they wouldn't be--
...did I just get baited?

[Clearsighted]

I'm against this, but I still advocate the ability to rollback to your previous reroll. There is nothing more disappointing than having all your "below average" stats suddenly become poor.

Agreed.

[RogueGunslinger]

In a way I guess you did, brytta.

[Delstro]

I would use this for the characters that I designed that would require stats above poor.

[jhunter]

I think that the people that would consider a pc unplayable because of stats typically want awesome stats or nothing anyway. I don't think this would solve anything and I really don't think anything needs to be done for the most part.

[ianmartin]

Poor stats are all well and good for someone who wants to sit about a tavern all day and do that for years, more power to them.
However, when you're playing a fighter who, *gasp* fights, go figure, having all poor stats fucks your day. up but good

[spawnloser]

There are no unplayable stats.  Order them so that whatever stat you think you need isn't last.

[jhunter]

I rarely had a character that didn't have suitable enough stats to play them when we didn't have stat ordering. Now that we do, I pretty much always have a character optimized for how I envision them. Are they all gonna be perfect? Are they all gonna be "the best"? Nope...but hey, that's just like real life.

[X-D]

Since stat ordering went in, I think I've had...6 PCs...I've still never ordered my stats. I still get what I will play.

The rest of you that order stats should be even better off.

That being said, I would not mind if there was an option where you could choose to have nothing below above ave and nothing above good.

I don't see the need, but I'm not against it.

[ibusoe]

It's another option that would be easy to code, and would offer a safety net to (the sort of player) who would be likely to suicide a crappy character anyway.
People who didn't like it could just ignore it.


+1