Noob hawks

[Anonymous]

I just have to bring this up, because I feel something needs to be changed about it. Has anyone else noticed, that when a player comes in with a pack, sleevless cotton vest, and leggings comes into the room, everyone warms up to him, either tries to rip him off, or lure him into a death trap? Maybe I am insane, but I love it when a noob walks into a tavern and sits at a bar, and the entire tavern does "look noob" and then they all warm up to him. Could someone maybe take the time to put in different clothes for noobs, or give them a cloak and less sid or something?

[Larrath]

I remember when I was a newbie and was sitting in the Gaj with like 15 hp left.  One of these "newbie hawks" came to me...actually a templar, and specifically decided to molest my character.

That experience was the coolest thing I had for my entire first month.


I don't think that it's bad that people can spot new characters, and let's face it, this is better for the newbies.  Most people don't make a living luring newbies into places and killing them for their 'sid, and those who do generally get found out and dealt with.

When I see someone in newbie clothes, I try to determine if it's a true newbie, and if it is, I will see if I can help them somehow.  Maybe I'll recruit them and maybe I won't, but at least they won't be stranded in a foreign land full of spammy (with all our sdesc stuck in every emote) people who ignore them.


About the 'sid, by the way...I think that figure's pretty good, really.  If you want to get your character a tattoo, or a change of clothes or a couple of weapons or a kank or whatever, this money disappears pretty fast.

[JollyGreenGiant]

I was quite grateful when someone warmed up to my first character and recruited him into the Byn.  I credit that experience with being the defining thing that got me hooked on the game.

[jmordetsky]

I love killing n00bs.


That said,

In all seriousness, there are people who hawk on n00bs, and there are people who try to teach the n00b to RP.

There are also two types of n00bs, those who read the docs, and those who are just retarded.

When I encounter a n00b who seems to have a clue, I try to involve them, get them to join the byn or a house, RP with the world around them etc.

If I meet a n00b who completely clueless, disrespecting the rank of others, bleeding in the middle of the tavern, or sleeping in the streets...I assume OC they haven't read the docs, IC that they must be crazy or retarded or both and are ripe to be taken advantage of.

At which point, I kill them.

EDIT: This of course takes into account whats IC for my char....

[Delirium]

I was quite grateful when someone warmed up to my first character and recruited him into the Byn.  I credit that experience with being the defining thing that got me hooked on the game.

Similar here. Someone snapped me up into a loose band of traders almost as soon as I logged in with my new character, and without them, I probably would not have gotten hooked so quickly, nor would my first character have gone on to survive 18+ days.

[Seeker]

I needed every (rare) stinking break I could get as a n00b, and I am still working my ass off to pay them all back.

I won't shower a sleeveless vested wonder with 'sids, but he sure will get my time and attention and the best IC RP I can dredge up at the moment.

Eventually, he will buy a new shirt, and I can begin the complex, vile betrayal.   :twisted:

Seeker

[Boggis]

I'd guess that most new players would be appreciative of any interaction from other players (once its not somebody blatantly taking advantage of their lack of knowledge of the game). On other muds I've heard complaints of how its hard initially to get into the RP because the "senior players" won't interact with n00bs. I think that kind of attitude would be far worse than having "n00b hawks". I'd guess that most interaction in the cities is generally pretty benign and from my experiences players will try to prod a n00b in a direction that will likely get them drawn into the game more.

[My 2 sids]

I'd guess that most new players would be appreciative of any interaction from other players (once its not somebody blatantly taking advantage of their lack of knowledge of the game). On other muds I've heard complaints of how its hard initially to get into the RP because the "senior players" won't interact with n00bs. I think that kind of attitude would be far worse than having "n00b hawks". I'd guess that most interaction in the cities is generally pretty benign and from my experiences players will try to prod a n00b in a direction that will likely get them drawn into the game more.

Agreed

[Anonymous]

You guys find some nice people. I had someone when I first logged on tell me where to find free weapons out in the desert, about how they were left there and I could find ANYTHING I wanted...(I had never played before so we went) and then the guy killed me two rroms west of the gates without no emotes or anything.

          There's some good, theres some bad. I think he means the bad ones.

[Cenghiz]

You guys find some nice people. I had someone when I first logged on tell me where to find free weapons out in the desert, about how they were left there and I could find ANYTHING I wanted...(I had never played before so we went) and then the guy killed me two rroms west of the gates without no emotes or anything.

Man! Send the log to the account and I'm 100% sure an imm will waste a long time to f*ck him hard. Just don't be too lazy to send the log to the MUD. We're just players here, can't start a manhunt and most imms don't visit GDB all the time. Best way to reach them would be a simple mail. Probably you will still be dead, but that player will be punished nicely that way.
Revenge's good.

[mansa]

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I put the bold in.


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[Anarchy]

Mmm, the only time i could be considered a "newbie hawk" was when i was in the 'rinth, playing a elf. I ran into a human newbie - who asked to do something stupid with my elf - and then told me he was a recruit of a certain clan, that my PC hated...None the less i didn't end up killing this person because he was a newbie oocly. - i did it because of what his PC was.


I donno, i really like it when folk warm up to "newbie" PCs, it makes developing the PC heeps easer.

[Sir Diealot]

mansa, telling an OOC noob 'free weapons in the desert!' is COMPLETELY ooc and wrong.. Because the guy, the character, would know a hell of a lot better.

[Agent_137]

Right, it's an OOC thought process that leads to "I can tell this guy there's free shit in the desert and he'll run out with just his newb clothes on to get it, and then I'll take his huge sack of newb coins."

It's one thing if some one's like,
"How do I get to red storm?"
and you're like,
"Head out east, and keep heading east . . .until you get there."

I mean, there are city dwellers that don't know where red storm is, or how to get there.

But there are NO city dwellers that would believe some one that tells them there are free piles of weapons in the desert. These people have been brought up within the walls and KNOWING the desert is scary.

While the newb shouldn't get any restitution for what happened to him, the person who tricked him should be punished for abusing OOC knowledge.

[Cavus]

I am completely OOC at this issue. I never kill a newbie. In fact, I don't like killling PCs either, but sometimes I have to do icly. Shit, I hate those situations.

I spend lots of time with newbies. lol We need them for better ic life.

[mansa]

I like to be a murderous bastard...

... when my character is a murderous bastard.

[Cenghiz]

No Mansa! I insist! If someone cheats a player with an unbelieveable OOC lie, he deserves a punishment.

By the way... Mansa Mansa Mansa!