Author Topic: Changes made to how offense, defense, weapon proficiency, and twohanded increase  (Read 11631 times)

Synthesis

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Asmoth

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Hopefully they've made it raise faster on guilds other than warrior.  I had a bitch of a time on every magicker getting it up to even usable levels against wildlife.
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Malken

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Hopefully they've made it raise faster on guilds other than warrior.  I had a bitch of a time on every magicker getting it up to even usable levels against wildlife.

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Ender

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Dresan

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-Changes made to how offense, defense, weapon proficiency, and two handed increase

I know someone is asking in ask the staff, but I feel this might deserve its own thread. Since it doesn't seem like a small change either, even though the excitment over subguilds are clearly overshadowing it. What does this mean exactly?

Thanks.  ;D
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Synthesis

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My bet is that someone finally took a look at it and realized that parries and/or blocks don't count as failures, as was(?) intended.
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Malken

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Staff finally stuck with playing a mundane class for longer than a month CONFIRMED!
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Nergal

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You are more likely to gain in the listed skills if the opponent you're failing against is more skilled at fighting than you are.
  

Asanadas

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 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Uh...?

I mean it's a good change but I was hoping it was something else.
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Nergal

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-Changes made to how offense, defense, weapon proficiency, and two handed increase

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RIP Turaal University's School of the Only Way to Improve Weapon Skills... maybe finally?

I think it's safe to say their accreditation has been revoked.
  

Delirium

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You are more likely to gain in the listed skills if the opponent you're failing against is more skilled at fighting than you are.

I hope there is still a chance if they aren't. Because well... what about subject zero? Where does the "master" get the skills to teach the newbies?

What about getting better than the one who taught you? Tried and true movie trope. Be sad to see it go.

(Good to see Turaal and Stilt Lizard School go by the wayside though.)
« Last Edit: February 15, 2016, 12:26:39 PM by Delirium »
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Vositus

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You are more likely to gain in the listed skills if the opponent you're failing against is more skilled at fighting than you are.

Oh.

I thought this was already the case. Mind blown.

Does this mean fighting your equal won't raise your skills at all, or just very slowly?

Nergal

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I hope there is still a chance if they aren't.
Yes, there still is.

Does this mean fighting your equal won't raise your skills at all, or just very slowly?
It will work the same as it does now, in that case.
  

najdorf

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You are more likely to gain in the listed skills if the opponent you're failing against is more skilled at fighting than you are.

ok, I'll ask it.
more skilled at fighting in general (offense, defense, some weird score I don't know) , or more skilled at the specific skill?

Nergal

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At fighting in general.
  

Delirium

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I'm confused. But... glad to see it worked on!
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Malken

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I think we were all hoping that it meant that you now had a chance to raise your offense, defense, weapon proficiency, and two handed skills even if you didn't fail at it.

If that's not the case, I don't see how stilt lizards are now useless.
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Jingo

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This makes clan sparring relevant now at least.
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Dresan

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Only if there is someone there better than you. Which unfortunately isn't always the case and the reason skills plateau at a certain level anyways, you are surrounded by new characters you can't really train properly on without killing.
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Jingo

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If there is nobody better than you, then you're already at the top of the heap, no?
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Nergal

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I think we were all hoping that it meant that you now had a chance to raise your offense, defense, weapon proficiency, and two handed skills even if you didn't fail at it.

If that's not the case, I don't see how stilt lizards are now useless.

Stilt lizards are useless to someone who is good at fighting a stilt lizard in a similar way to how a sparring dummy is useless to someone who is good at fighting a sparring dummy.

This makes clan sparring relevant now at least.

Yes, that was one of the points of this change.

Only if there is someone there better than you. Which unfortunately isn't always the case and the reason skills plateau at a certain level anyways, you are surrounded by new characters you can't really train properly on without killing.

Gaining skill against a peer is still possible. Gaining skill against someone not as skilled as you is still possible. The change is meant to eliminate the "plateau" through challenging oneself rather than simple luck/grinding.
  

Asanadas

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If there is nobody better than you, then you're already at the top of the heap, no?

Yeah, until one-punch man walks out of the desert with the blood of stilt lizards dripping from his bone gauntlets as he wipes your entire clan.

Which has happened at least once in Arm history. Hi Red Fangs?
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Jingo

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If there is nobody better than you, then you're already at the top of the heap, no?

Yeah, until one-punch man walks out of the desert with the blood of stilt lizards dripping from his bone gauntlets as he wipes your entire clan.

Which has happened at least once in Arm history. Hi Red Fangs?

I guess you should spar that guy then.

I'm pretty sure staff are keenly aware of the stilt lizard situation.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2016, 01:00:26 PM by Jingo »
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Asanadas

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I guess you should spar that guy then.
Good luck!
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