What if instead of actions such as 'put axe pack' we could substitute emotes for them? For example you type in something along the lines of " put axe pack emote=  slips ~axe into her large backpack."

It would appear as: The rat-faced girl slips a long-hafted axe into her large backpack; the axe of course would be in the pack code-wise. Maybe this isn't feasable, I don't know.

Sounds too abuseable to me right off the bat. Unless you meant that only "put could do it" then I'd guess it would be fine.

If Get has the ability too, then it is a bad idea.

Definatly put, maybe even give.

Much like give, we'd just need a () modifier.  Replacing the code echo entirely seems unwise, and it looks like a clunky syntax anyway.

as written this won't happen, however eventually put and give will be given command emotes.

> put axe pack (slipping it over her shoulder)

Slipping it over her shoulder, the packersfan puts a hand axe into her large backpack.

Three cheers for more () style emotes.

Quote from: "Morgenes"as written this won't happen, however eventually put and give will be given command emotes.

> put axe pack (slipping it over her shoulder)

Slipping it over her shoulder, the packersfan puts a hand axe into her large backpack.

So far I have been loving the give command emotes.  I can't wait to get one for put.

Put, drop, and get would be awesome.

And make give work for giving away coins, too!

QuoteDrop                                                            (Equipment)

  This command will cause your character to drop the named item on the
ground. The object must be in your inventory at the time. Dropping money
takes the form of "drop <number of coins> coins" or "drop <number of coins>
obsidian".
  You can specify a temporary ldesc for the object much like the change
ldesc command (q.v.).  If you want the short description to appear
anywhere in the long description, or just want to get rid of the 'is here'
that the default automatically adds, put a '~' where you want the short
description to go.

Syntax:
  drop <object>
  drop <object> <ldesc>

Examples:
  > drop sword
  > drop 200 coins
  > drop sword buried to the hilt in the sand.
  > drop head Flies buzzing around it, ~ is stuck on a stake here.
See also:
  get, put, syntax, take

Quote from: "Jherlen"Put, drop, and get would be awesome.

And make give work for giving away coins, too!

It does.

>give 400 coins man (tossing over a pouch)

would result in:

Tossing over a pouch, The Jherlen gives some coins to The Man.

Quote from: "Morgenes"as written this won't happen, however eventually put and give will be given command emotes.

> put axe pack (slipping it over her shoulder)

Slipping it over her shoulder, the packersfan puts a hand axe into her large backpack.

I thought put and give already have emotes. Drink has one also.

Put and get do not.  Give does.  Drop has something else, instead.

Quote from: "Delirium"

Quote from: "Jherlen"Put, drop, and get would be awesome.

And make give work for giving away coins, too!

It does.

>give 400 coins man (tossing over a pouch)

would result in:

Tossing over a pouch, The Jherlen gives some coins to The Man.

It works, but the resulting echo is kind of wonky. Like the last time I tried it, it was:

>give 400 coins man (tossing over a pouch)

Tossing over a pouch, you give 400 coins to The Man.

Maybe it's been fixed since then, I dunno.

Oh, cool.

I'd been trying...

give (tossing over a pouch) 400 coins man.

Silly me.

I'm not getting that.  If someone can prove it, send a log of what commands you did and what the output was to morgenes@ginka.armageddon.org.

Quote from: "Jherlen"Oh, cool.

I'd been trying...

give (tossing over a pouch) 400 coins man.

Silly me.

Either will work, I just did:

> give (tossing over a pouch) 400 coins man

Tossing over a pouch, you give a man 400 coins.

Tossing over a pouch, the grey man gives some coins to the red man.

That's an odd echo. What if you were to change the room echo to 'money pouch' or 'little sack' or 'big sack' instead of 'coins'?

because there is no pouch, he handed coins, honestly the (slipping a pouch across the table) type emote is an abuse of the emote code.  Find/craft/buy a pouch and put the coins in it, if that's the way you want to hand the coins over.

Quote from: "Morgenes"because there is no pouch, he handed coins, honestly the (slipping a pouch across the table) type emote is an abuse of the emote code.  Find/craft/buy a pouch and put the coins in it, if that's the way you want to hand the coins over.

Um, every sergeant has handed my pay over that way.

Quote from: "Morgenes"because there is no pouch, he handed coins, honestly the (slipping a pouch across the table) type emote is an abuse of the emote code.  Find/craft/buy a pouch and put the coins in it, if that's the way you want to hand the coins over.

I almost always get money in a "pouch".  Templars give me money this way. Nobles do. Rinth rats do, (and where do they get a pouch, I wonder) and my peers do as well.  So I do it too.  And now I find that this is bad!

Nenyuk hands them out? That was always my impression. They aren't worth anything and when people make them.. they must be stupid to waste their time?

I see nothing abusive about emoting a pouch of coins. I have seen people emote putting a sword in their pack as wrapping it up in a bind of leather on one side of the backpack. They didn't have a scrap of leather in their inventory, and their backpack said nothing about anything like this in its description. I have emoted pitching a rock from the rubbly ground of the 'rinth at someone on more than one occasion, but I didn't spam-forage for rocks until I found one. People have emoted jarring the mugs on a bartop with a slam of their fist, but they didn't buy a bunch of mugs and line them up along the bar.

emote tosses ~you a pouch of coins. is not abusive in any shape or form that I can see. It makes the enviroment a little more real, paints the scene, and changes game mechanics of giving someone 8000 coins into something that we can visualize. I thought that was exactly what the emote command was for.

emote A short and thick male wearing a sandcloth face wrap steps up behind @ and folds his arms threateningly.
emote draws a steel sword.
emote starts casting.
Etc.
That is what I see as abuse to the emote code. Honestly, there's only so many little bags in one city and most of them key to the same stuff. I'd much rather see a small, harmless emote than someone getting 8 pouches out of their pack and digging through each of them until they find the right one and hand it over.

Quote from: "Morgenes"because there is no pouch, he handed coins, honestly the (slipping a pouch across the table) type emote is an abuse of the emote code.  Find/craft/buy a pouch and put the coins in it, if that's the way you want to hand the coins over.

I believe this use of virtual purses for coins has been used for a long while and by all sorts of players and imms alike.  I was not aware it could be considered abuse of the emote code.  

I've had all sorts of npcs use this exact method of a virtual purse for passing coins over.  I've seen it everywhere.  I've begun using it myself.  I find it makes things a little easier to play and makes a little more sense.

If it is abuse - I guess I'll stop the practice.

Quote from: "Morgenes"because there is no pouch, he handed coins, honestly the (slipping a pouch across the table) type emote is an abuse of the emote code.  Find/craft/buy a pouch and put the coins in it, if that's the way you want to hand the coins over.

I disagree as well with this statement. I think it is more than fair to virtually assume you have a small pouch to put coins in.

Ok, since you guys are apparently very sensitive about this, it's something that has happened in the past, and likely will continue to happen.  We aren't going to dock your karma for doing this, as it is a minor thing.

If you guys are looking for a way to stimulate the economy, perhaps you could find a small pouch or two, and try actually using them to give money.  But I don't expect you to actually do it.

Sorry to ruffle your tail feathers.