City Elves and Traveling

Started by TripleX, February 28, 2004, 08:07:30 PM

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February 28, 2004, 08:07:30 PM
I find it a bit unfair that city elves cannot travel easily between cities (stamina wise) as compared to humans using a mount.  I understand that city elves are not desert elves, but they still pride for their running ability over distances no less than desert elves, which results in them never using a mount.

Isn't there like a better way to allow city elves to roam the land? Maybe better stamina regeneration in the desert than mounts?
February 28, 2004, 08:15:12 PM #1
City elves stay within their tribes, in the city.  They wouldn't really want to travel outside the city.  It wouldn't be profitable, travelling.  Get someone to come visit you instead.  That's my take on it.
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February 28, 2004, 08:16:08 PM #2
I've gotta say that I think it is fine. After all, these city elves are called city elves for a reason. They are used to the shadows and slightly less cool conditions of the city. While running along the North Road, you might find that it is a tad hotter than in the cities.

THerefore, I think, personally, that it is fine as is.
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February 28, 2004, 08:18:48 PM #3
Mansa hit the nail on the head.  Elves stay with their tribes and their tribal 'territories'.  Tribes of city elves are found in cities.  Hence, most city elves would rarely travel between cities.

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February 28, 2004, 08:23:49 PM #4
Well, not every single city elf belongs to a tribe, right?

I don't think there should be a CITY elf and DESERT elf.  It's not black and white, there must be something in between.
February 28, 2004, 08:26:02 PM #5
There is. City Elves are just 'Elves' and Desert Elves are 'Desert Elves' Desert elves, having lived a harder life in the harsh wilds of Zalanthas have appropriate stamina bonuses, moreson than City Elves do.

Besides, last I checked, city elves could still out run a human if they have to.
February 28, 2004, 08:33:05 PM #6
Every single city elf belongs to a tribe.  I'm putting my foot down on that.
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February 28, 2004, 08:33:42 PM #7
Get a tent.  You'll still travel as quickly (perhaps even more quickly) than a mounted character over long distances, because you'll regenerate much faster inside the tent than a kank does outside in the sand.  It is hard to find a tent that weighs less than 20 stone though, so a low strength elf may have trouble carrying off-the-rack tents.  Maybe you could special order a light pup-tent from Kurac.  Dunno, I've never tried it.


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February 28, 2004, 08:37:14 PM #8
Quote from: "Angela Christine"a low strength elf may have trouble carrying off-the-rack tents.  Maybe you could special order a light pup-tent from Kurac.
Or just buy a kank ;)
February 28, 2004, 08:38:13 PM #9
Quote from: "John"Or just buy a kank ;)

No.  :roll:

Please. No more elves on mounts. I might scream.
February 28, 2004, 08:41:27 PM #10
Quote from: "Pungee"No more elves on mounts.
You can actually have elves with pack-mounts (to carry heavy stuff such as tents).
February 28, 2004, 08:44:08 PM #11
I think he means buy a kank to pack with a tent.  I think this is reasonable, even if it does require the stupid elves to briefly mount their kanks to get their stuff.  Its much harder and therefore MUCH more expensive to travel, but they're not really supposed to anyway... so uhh there!

Edit:  John posted his reply while I added mine, go figure
February 28, 2004, 08:45:39 PM #12
Not as a mount, as a pack animal.  Have your low-strength elf pack his tent and other gear on a kank, not ride the kank.  You still maintain your elven pride by running around on your own two feet, but you run around with a kank tied to your ass.

However, if you are using a pack animal you're probably better off walking than running.  Running will tire out a kank quickly and then you'll have to wait a loooong time for the kank to rest.  I once had a delf merchant with a pack-kank, and it got pretty annoying.  But that was before delf stamina was reduced, it might be better now.


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February 28, 2004, 08:49:08 PM #13
Pack animals are fine. I just dont like seeing elves ON mounts. Like using them for transportation. It jarrs me.
February 28, 2004, 09:18:47 PM #14
Quote from: "Pungee"Pack animals are fine. I just dont like seeing elves ON mounts. Like using them for transportation. It jarrs me.

It's not jarring, it's bad rp. Kill any elfie you see riding. =)
February 28, 2004, 09:26:23 PM #15
Roger roger.

Ensign: Cap'n we've got a lock on! It's an elf! He's riding!

Captain: Load up the Templar and give me a firing solution.

Ensign: Locked and loaded. Fire when ready cap'n!

Captain: Release!

Ensign: Templar is away! Templar is away!

Captain: Three... Two... One

Ensign: It's a hit! The templar decapitated the elf!
February 28, 2004, 10:57:48 PM #16
Quote from: "Forest Junkie"It's not jarring, it's bad rp. Kill any elfie you see riding. =)

Wouldn't it also be bad RP to kill an elf just because she's riding a kank?
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February 28, 2004, 11:45:21 PM #17
Quote from: "EvilRoeSlade"
Quote from: "Forest Junkie"It's not jarring, it's bad rp. Kill any elfie you see riding. =)

Wouldn't it also be bad RP to kill an elf just because she's riding a kank?

No.

(Not if you are a prideful d-elfie Salad)

*sigh* I must fucking -SUCK- at making jokes.
February 29, 2004, 04:09:51 AM #18
Alright boys and gals, I get the idea, thanks for sharing with me your most inner thoughts regarding city elves and desert elves.  Next character will be a human  :D
February 29, 2004, 04:17:44 AM #19
You can always hire an escort, heh.

I think maybe city elves should get the running bonus that desert elves do. Desert elves lose less stamina when running. They don't get the extra stamina, so they still wouldn't be able to run across the desert, but they should have strong, long legs, good for running. At least, I think it's a considerable thought.
February 29, 2004, 12:26:52 PM #20
Quote from: "Forest Junkie"No.

(Not if you are a prideful d-elfie Salad)

*sigh* I must fucking -SUCK- at making jokes.

Heh, sorry.  I was just picking on you.

The reason I even mentioned it is because I have done the sin of "elf-riding a kank" in the past.  I had my reasons and I stand by what I did.

I guess I could elaborate, but instead I think I'll do the same thing again.  Maybe I can take out a couple of you filthy elf-killers in the process.

DISCLAIMER:  I don't condone elves riding kanks under any circumstances.  If you think you can figure out the same thing that I did, then you are stupid and wrong.
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February 29, 2004, 06:17:17 PM #21
There are FEW reasons (yet there are reasons) for elves to ride. Thus why the command is not just disabled for them. Like if there were no reasons there would be something like "Elves don't ride kanks." when you try to mount. But there are instances, probably less then one in a hundred, where an elf may be willed to ride.

Its not common, and its rarer then rare.
February 29, 2004, 06:29:23 PM #22
Grrr....city elves can traverse the desert just fine for direct trips.

I tend to play mostly city elves, and I've taken one out into the desert several times...now...he wasn't actually able to fend for himself...but...it was fine.
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February 29, 2004, 06:36:17 PM #23
QuoteEvery single city elf belongs to a tribe. I'm putting my foot down on that.

Well you better get it off because its not right :).
QuoteDo All Elves Need to Belong to a Tribe?
No; almost all elves that dwell in the desert belong to a tribe, for there is a dependency upon trusted ones for survival. In the city, however, elves may lose their parents (and thus their heritage) much more easily, and will then be left without a tribe. These elves without a tribe lead shiftless lives, never committing themselves greatly to any cause but those that may benefit themselves.
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