Ice elementalist...

[ashjpd]

Wouldn't it be cool? I think it would. Or maybe an elementalist with the power to freeze things would be better. Maybe the water elementalist would have the power to freeze the water they create? I haven't been playing the game long, but I think this would be pretty fun. It would add more to the game in many ways.

For example:
You wake up with your hunter character one day..
You head out to go hunt for some gortok up north...
Until finding a gortok in the middle of the road, frozen, not moving at all.

shrug*

[Vositus]

I'm afriad I'm going to be blunt...

No.

[Armaddict]

I've thought about this...I personally think it would fall under a water elementalist's field of expertise.

And it would be a -very- strange thing for anyone else to see.

[Ueda]

No Ice Elementalist... but I could see the water elementalist having the power to create Ice, & I actually like that Idea, cause think of what kind of weird powerful thing you char' would do if he saw -ICE- now what on zalanthis? But to sum it up... Meh, I don't really care.

[Lazloth]

Only if he could shoot ice from his hands and glide along like a roller coaster slide...and if he had a Krathi buddy who wore a form-fitting yellow jumpsuit...and some kind of webcrawling friend.

[Armaddict]

Way to make an idea sound as ludicrous as possible, Lazloth.

But really...why's it such a bad idea?

[creeper386]

I'd say it fit under water elementalist due to having power over water. Although in a wierd way could fit it under fire elementalists with control over heat to a degree I'd say.


Creeper says no anyways.

[Ueda]

No Ice Elementalist... but I could see the water elementalist having the power to create Ice, & I actually like that Idea, cause think of what kind of weird powerful thing you char' would do if he saw -ICE- now what on zalanthis? But to sum it up... Meh, I don't really care.

[Lazloth]

Way to make an idea sound as ludicrous as possible, Lazloth.

Obviously not a child of the seventies.

[JollyGreenGiant]

I understood perfectly, Lazloth, small consolation though that may be.  Don't forget that they need to recruit the winged guy along the way.

[sacac]

Yeah I can see it now.. A bunch of kids poking at a frozen bucket of water.
Then an old man walks by..
old man says, When Allanak freezes over.. what is that..

[Armaddict]

Blah blah, yes, I know about the X-Men, archangel, Ice man, spider man and what not.

It just sounded as though you were mocking the idea...sorry if I misunderstood. :oops:

[Angela Christine]

No, if he wanted to make the idea sound as ridiculous as possible he would have used the Superfriends.  :shudder:

But forget ice, it would almost instantly melt anyway, what's the point?  Sell pieces of "cold quartz" to crafters, and then laugh at them when it melts?  Ok, that would be fun, but only until you got killed for witchcraft.

No, I say someone should tap into the demi-plane of steam.  Think of the possibilities!  A spell that causes burns and blistering to the flesh, but instead of leaving your clothes burned and raggedy looking, it leaves them completely clean -- very handy for raiders that want to kill or incapacitate a target without ruining the loot.  A spell that fills the room with a nice relaxing steam bath, while in the steam bath you regen 2X normal, and you come out clean.  A spell for filling the room with a confusing but harmless steam-fog, it's better than being invisible because the damp brings up all the odours in the ground, which drives gortoks (and other dog-like creatures that track by smell) into a sniffing frenzy and causes them to forget all about you.  A spell for cooking vegetables without losing valuable vitamins.  A spell for steam cleaning garments.  The ability to power steam engines.

Ok, don't tell anyone I told you this, but there used to be Steam Elementalists.  They were even rarer than Elkrosians, who tap into the demi-plane of lightning, because Zalanthas doesn't have a good connection to the demi-plane of steam.  The Dry Cleaners Guild had them all assasinated.


Angela Christine

[Armaddict]

Erm.

A spell of a blast of cold that gives frostbite.

A bolt of ice?

-freezing- winds.

Hail storms.

Do I have to explain why someone who wielded the powers of frozen water would be -damn- scary?

I think -just- the frostbite would be damn cool.  I bet that would do -massive- nerve damage, considering how unused the zalanthan body is to cold -and- how fast the frostbite would melt (You're supposed to reheat it gradually).

Man.  That would be one -scary- motherfucker.

[Angela Christine]

I'd say it fit under water elementalist due to having power over water. Although in a wierd way could fit it under fire elementalists with control over heat to a degree I'd say.

I'm not sure.  Krathians affect heat and light, so you'd think cold and dark would fall into their area of expertise because in our understanding cold and dark are just low levels of heat and light.  But they don't, Krathians can control light but not the absence of light: Drovians control the absence of light.  Does that mean Drovians would also have power over the absence of heat, ie. cold?  Dunno.  Nobody says the Demi-plane of Shadow is cold, but then you wouldn't expect it to be a tropical paradise either.

Then you have Nilazi.  Nilazi are tapped into the Void, the absence of everything.  I'm not sure what a place free of both light and darkness would look like, I guess it would be a place beyond vision entirely . . . or something.  I suppose the Void could be luke warm, ie. devoid of any perception of temperature, but I think it would be cold.  I think if anyone would have anti-heat spells it would be Nilazi.  But Nilazi probably wouldn't have spells that would *create* water and then freeze it, or create frozen water.  I think they'd be stuck freezing things that already exist.  That wouldn't affect most inanimate objects, although even in an arid environment I suppose a frozen rock would attract some condensation which might temporarily form frost.  Freezing a living creature, which is already chock full of water, would have the same effect from a Nilazi as from an Ice Elementalist.  You can get frostbite without frost, it just doesn't happen much in the real world.  If you get trapped in an electric freezer you will freeze and die, even if there are no ice cubes in the freezer with you.

Then there are the evil, evil sorcerers.  Elementalists control just one element, but sorcerers can combine elements in freakish and twisted ways.  It would certainly be within the power of a sorcerer to creat water and freeze water (combining vivadu and nilazi) in one unholy spell of icy destruction.  Spells for frostbite, icy winds, and steam also fall within their twisted grasp.  Sure, few people have enough karma to play a sorcerer, but not many people have the karma to play a Nilazi or a Drovian either.  


I think frostbite would be cool, I just don't know if it merits an entirely new guild.  Like my steam elementalist there are a few potentially cool spells, but then it just kind of peters out.


Angela Christine

[X-D]

If anybody would, it would be nilazi.

But anyway, at least for the last oh, what, 5000 years, no ice has existed on zalanthas, even if one of the magic classes 'could' make something cold, who says they would ever think to try? They would not have a word or even concept for such a thing.

[Anonymous]

Wonder twin powers, activate!  

Form of - A tiger!
Form of - A puddle of ice!

[Tamarin]

I didn't bother to read all the other posts, but I'm just assuming no one brought this up...ice-elementalist -only- if the player is willing to dress up in black and blue ninja robes, and constantly go around freezing people into solid ice, and then kicking them so they explode into bits of guts.

[Delirium]

Hehehehehe.

[Seeker]

CRW wrote

Wonder twin powers, activate!

Form of - A tiger!
Form of - A puddle of ice!

Um.... that should be:
Shape of... a tiger!
Form of... an ice piano!


Seeker
(anyone want to hear the opening song lyrics to The Herculoids?)

[Dan]

No.

[Anonymous]

The serious answer for me, as to why I'd say no way is that ice is not an element.  Water is and ice would be redundant.

[spawnloser]

I gotta say, 'No' as well, there not being any natural ice anywhere near the Known World.  I am with everyone that suggests a sorcerer could do what was suggested as suggested...a Nilazi or Drovian maybe could freeze but not create...the Vivaduan creating the water, but not freezing it.  The ice elementalist, though, that I just can't see in such an environment.

[Armaddict]

I'm not saying an all new class.  I'm speaking of ice spells in general.

I thought it was a good idea.  Any reasons I've heard for ice spells to not exist...have been flimsy, thusfar.

[JollyGreenGiant]

I'm not saying an all new class.  I'm speaking of ice spells in general.

I thought it was a good idea.  Any reasons I've heard for ice spells to not exist...have been flimsy, thusfar.

I have yet to hear a good reason for ice spells to exist. Since that requires more effort than ice spells not existing, their continued non-existence seems likely.