CGP/ext subguilds/skill bump discussion

[Nyr]

To discuss or ask questions about this announced change.

[Rathustra]

[Desertman]

[Barsook]

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh!

[Down Under]

Reading between the lines, this means that there is no longer a restriction of 3 Skill Bumps / Application? So if you have 6 karma, you could (in theory) use all 6 CGP on an application to boost skills across the board? (With current restrictions in place regarding weapons skills, etc.)

[Rathustra]

Reading between the lines, this means that there is no longer a restriction of 3 Skill Bumps / Application? So if you have 6 karma, you could (in theory) use all 6 CGP on an application to boost skills across the board? (With current restrictions in place regarding weapons skills, etc.)

Yes - as long as your main guild costs 0 karma, you take no extended subguild and your race costs no karma.

[Nyr]

Mostly correct...

If you have 6 karma, you can do one of the following:

apply for any combination of race/guild that gets you to 6 karma, where applicable
apply for an extended subguild and a 0 karma race/guild selection AND get 6 skill bumps, where applicable
apply for skill bumps for a 0 karma race/guild combo, and get 9 skill bumps, where applicable

[Down Under]

So Half giants (even if you have the option through your karma) counts as 4 karma towards the application, correct?

Er, CGP. Karma. You know.

[Barzalene]

If Malik has eight karma can he play a half giant sorc? (Because that would be awesome.)

[Desertman]

If Malik has eight karma can he play a half giant sorc? (Because that would be awesome.)

Sorcerers are required to be human aren't they?

[Down Under]

Also, will this open up the ceiling of karma from 8 to 8+?

[Barzalene]

If Malik has eight karma can he play a half giant sorc? (Because that would be awesome.)

Sorcerers are required to be human aren't they?

Yes, but... I had to ask.

[Nyr]

So Half giants (even if you have the option through your karma) counts as 4 karma towards the application, correct?

Half-giants are 3 karma.  Unless I am misunderstanding what you are asking?

[Rathustra]

If Malik has eight karma can he play a half giant sorc? (Because that would be awesome.)

Sorcerers are required to be human aren't they?

No. This isn't the case. But if Malik has 8 karma he cannot be a HG sorcerer as HG costs 3 CGP and sorcerer costs 8CGP.

[Down Under]

So Half giants (even if you have the option through your karma) counts as 4 karma towards the application, correct?

Half-giants are 3 karma.  Unless I am misunderstanding what you are asking?

Herp, derp. 3 karma.

But it would count as 3 towards the application, right?

[Fujikoma]

If Malik has eight karma can he play a half giant sorc? (Because that would be awesome.)

Sorcerers are required to be human aren't they?

No. This isn't the case. But if Malik has 8 karma he cannot be a HG sorcerer as HG costs 3 CGP and sorcerer costs 8CGP.

But he could spec-app, right?

[Rathustra]

Also, will this open up the ceiling of karma from 8 to 8+?

Someone spec. apping with 8 account karma gets 11 points to spend on their character, yes.

[Barzalene]

+ 3 no?

[Fujikoma]

I figured if you had 8 karma you could have previously apped a HG sorc, unless I'm mistaken... seems like that wouldn't change. Maybe I misunderstood something somewhere.

[Patuk]

How will/does this affect extended subguild apps filed before the change?

[Rathustra]

I figured if you had 8 karma you could have previously apped a HG sorc, unless I'm mistaken... seems like that wouldn't change. Maybe I misunderstood something somewhere.

If Malik has eight karma can he play a half giant sorc? (Because that would be awesome.)

Sorcerers are required to be human aren't they?

No. This isn't the case. But if Malik has 8 karma he cannot be a HG sorcerer as HG costs 3 CGP and sorcerer costs 8CGP.

But he could spec-app, right?

Yes, correct. Sorry I can't maths apparently - 8 (sorc) + 3 (hg) = 11, which is our current CGP limit.

[Rathustra]

How will/does this affect extended subguild apps filed before the change?

If you have an extended subguild request in queue now, you can reply to it to request skill bumps if you are eligible.

[Eyeball]

The following would not be possible, is that correct?

Player with 4 karma. Applies for a human (0 karma) Rukkian (2 karma) with an Outdoorsman extended subguild (3 cpg) and 2 skill bumps to, say, forage (2 karma worth of skill bumps).

[Barzalene]

I figured if you had 8 karma you could have previously apped a HG sorc, unless I'm mistaken... seems like that wouldn't change. Maybe I misunderstood something somewhere.

If Malik has eight karma can he play a half giant sorc? (Because that would be awesome.)

Sorcerers are required to be human aren't they?

No. This isn't the case. But if Malik has 8 karma he cannot be a HG sorcerer as HG costs 3 CGP and sorcerer costs 8CGP.

But he could spec-app, right?

Yes, correct. Sorry I can't maths apparently - 8 (sorc) + 3 (hg) = 11, which is our current CGP limit.

GO MALIK, GO!

[Rathustra]

The following would not be possible, is that correct?

Player with 4 karma. Applies for a human (0 karma) Rukkian (2 karma) with an Outdoorsman extended subguild (3 cpg) and 2 skill bumps to, say, forage (2 karma worth of skill bumps).

That is a possible concept. The player has 7CGP to spend (4 account karma +3 bonus CGP for spec. app.):

-2 for guild,
-3 for subguild,
-1 for one bump,
-1 for second bump,
= 7 CGP in total.