Discussion of changes to Armageddon Website

[Patuk]

Is there any way we can get the concise table back on the new site that was on the old site for the 'short' meanings of the kruth cards for kruth readings?

I read tarot cards in real life. I'm sure I could devise a way of reading kruth cards for you.

[AmandaGreathouse]

Is there any way we can get the concise table back on the new site that was on the old site for the 'short' meanings of the kruth cards for kruth readings?

I read tarot cards in real life. I'm sure I could devise a way of reading kruth cards for you.

Actually? I do too. I have a lot of fun in blowing the meanings off when I have pcs who 'pretend' they can read them, but it would be nice if there were still a set in stone blurb meaning for them like there was on the old kruth cards webpage.

[Zul]

This may have been brought up on an earlier page, so sorry.

Small request: May we have the current staff running each respective clan/tribe listed on the page, or is there a way to look this up on the website?

Is there a particular reason you need this information?

I imagine because it was available on the old website before the database issues under the clan specific information page where it had the clan staff in charge, as well as which clans were opened and closed, and the clans available to be used as background vs the ones not okay.

That would be the reason why, yes.

I find it useful to know at a glance which staff members are currently handling a clan/tribe.

[Ben Arie]

Shyly, the slim, tan man waves his hand at the GDB.

Hello, just thought I'd compliment you on the new look as well, having been fortunate enough to see the old one! 

[mangler]

Okay so I've now noticed if you right click on the 'world' tab, and open it in a new tab, it directs you to a page with:

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Thought the lists it then gives options of are up to date herb/animal lists, whilst if you just select a list from the dropdown menu, it navigates to out of date helpfiles.

This is from firefox btw.

[Nyr]

Okay so I've now noticed if you right click on the 'world' tab, and open it in a new tab, it directs you to a page with:

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Works fine for me in chrome and firefox.

Thought the lists it then gives options of are up to date herb/animal lists, whilst if you just select a list from the dropdown menu, it navigates to out of date helpfiles.

I'm not seeing this at all with either chrome or firefox.

[Molten Heart]

Actually? I do too. I have a lot of fun in blowing the meanings off when I have pcs who 'pretend' they can read them, but it would be nice if there were still a set in stone blurb meaning for them like there was on the old kruth cards webpage.

Is this what you're suggesting?  It doesn't have the chart from the old website but the rest of it is there.

[AmandaGreathouse]

No, I'm suggesting bringing back the chart with the blurbs for each card, like is on the old site but not the new one. I think it would be nice to have a more codified meaning for the people who want to have a more solid idea of what the cards mean for various reasons due to IC backgrounds or for various roleplaying purposes. Yes, that's the page I'm referring to, but I'm suggesting that the chart be brought over. I know the rest of it is there, but it's not as helpful/concise as the chart is for coming to a sort of 'Ah, the tower, yeah, get ready to fail if you keep pushing in that direction' (tarot reference) sort of meaning that anyone with the appropriate background ought to be familiar with.

[mangler]

Hmm.. seems the right click thing has been fixed, the old address it navigated to was http://www.armageddon.org/world/bestiary.shtml though this now this now yields 404.

If you just look at the list under animal life, and compare it to the one found at http://old.armageddon.org/general/beasts.html you can see that the list on the new website is out of date, for example it doesn't have an entry for Ankheg.

[Nyr]

I don't think we can do tables in helpfiles.  We can probably provide that information, it just may not work as a chart.

[Kismetic]

I encountered this one:

'Emoting' not found, searching...
Access denied for user 'apache'@'localhost' (using password: NO)Access denied for user 'apache'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
Search term 'Emoting' not found in any help topic.

Firefox 19.0.2, if you were wondering.

[Nyr]

If you just look at the list under animal life, and compare it to the one found at http://old.armageddon.org/general/beasts.html you can see that the list on the new website is out of date, for example it doesn't have an entry for Ankheg.

Ah--you confused me when you said it was out of date.  Yes, not everything got moved over because of that database issue we had.

[Nyr]

I encountered this one:

'Emoting' not found, searching...
Access denied for user 'apache'@'localhost' (using password: NO)Access denied for user 'apache'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
Search term 'Emoting' not found in any help topic.

Firefox 19.0.2, if you were wondering.

Having some problems with mySQL this morning.

[Kismetic]

Gotcha.  No biggie, doing my due diligence.

[Kismetic]

Btw the way, it just came back up.  Really digging this format, over all.

[mangler]

Ah okay. Was just peculiar as when I right clicked and opened the world tab in a new tab yesterday, the links provided then did include all the information, was a slightly different looking page with some background art, not the one from the old website.  

[Morgenes]

Ah okay. Was just peculiar as when I right clicked and opened the world tab in a new tab yesterday, the links provided then did include all the information, was a slightly different looking page with some background art, not the one from the old website.  

You were seeing an older in-between version of the site that was never finished.  I've cleared it out (hence the 404's).  Sorry about that.

We're going to be working through content differences between the sites and update things.

[razorback]

You guys take your time and do what you do, we the players enjoy the hell out of every new little thing you give us. Hence, crackageddon. 

[Morgenes]

No, I'm suggesting bringing back the chart with the blurbs for each card, like is on the old site but not the new one. I think it would be nice to have a more codified meaning for the people who want to have a more solid idea of what the cards mean for various reasons due to IC backgrounds or for various roleplaying purposes. Yes, that's the page I'm referring to, but I'm suggesting that the chart be brought over. I know the rest of it is there, but it's not as helpful/concise as the chart is for coming to a sort of 'Ah, the tower, yeah, get ready to fail if you keep pushing in that direction' (tarot reference) sort of meaning that anyone with the appropriate background ought to be familiar with.

It's not in the same format, but I've got this information back in under 'Kruth Philosophy'

[Delirium]

There's a few pieces out of place (they were out of place on the original chart too, and it always drove me nuts but I never got around to submitting the fix).

Basically, things that were meant to be in one category to the left/right were tagged onto the beginning/end of the adjacent category.

Here's the fixed list.

Life/Wind   Sudden change. Something new. Momentous moment.
Life/Sun   Destruction leads to rebirth. Fire brings form. To win.
Life/Stone  Prevail/Conjurer. Enemy to friend. Nothing to something.
Life/Water    Found/The Birth. New job. Good endeavor. Good omen. Pregnancy.
Truth/Wind   Beliefs will be revealed true. Trustworthiness. Cleansing.
Truth/Sun   The feared is true. Fire brings purification.
Truth/Stone The Arrow. Follow the facts. Facts point to truth. Direct path.
Truth/Water   Forgiveness. Second Chance. Healing. Knowledge is vital.
Fate/Wind   Whim of Fate. Small actions amplified.
Fate/Sun   Trial/Enemy. Unavoidable enemy or struggle. Inner struggle.
Fate/Stone   Calm/The Balance. Uneventful. Non-action. To wait, also compensation
Fate/Water   Profits. Sudden Gain. Health, or good fortune.
Kings/Wind   Shifting of power. The upper hand. Political change.
Kings/Sun   The Harsh. Unfairness. Harsh judgment. Iron rule.
Kings/Stone   Means/Law. Justice. The law. The good of society.
Kings/Water   Righteousness/Ends. Vindication for good intentions. Good of the many
Deceit/Wind   Things that change still remain the same. Tradition.
Deceit/Sun   Betrayer. Treachery. Cheating. Lying. Conning. Also smooth talker.
Deceit/Stone Escape from pursuit or bonds, or offenders getting away.
Deceit/Water The Thief. something stolen. Bad judgment. Bad investment.
Death/Wind   Perpetual change. Loss of love. Flame burned out.
Death/Sun   The Scar. Permanent injury. Eternal effects. Lost mind.
Death/Stone   Slavery. death. Stopping, rest, retire, settle down.
Death/Water   Poison. Lost friend or family. Missing cherished object.

[Nyr]

Updated with suggested changes.

[Fredd]

There's a few pieces out of place (they were out of place on the original chart too, and it always drove me nuts but I never got around to submitting the fix).

Basically, things that were meant to be in one category to the left/right were tagged onto the beginning/end of the adjacent category.

Here's the fixed list.

Life/Wind   Sudden change. Something new. Momentous moment.
Life/Sun   Destruction leads to rebirth. Fire brings form. To win.
Life/Stone  Prevail/Conjurer. Enemy to friend. Nothing to something.
Life/Water    Found/The Birth. New job. Good endeavor. Good omen. Pregnancy.
Truth/Wind   Beliefs will be revealed true. Trustworthiness. Cleansing.
Truth/Sun   The feared is true. Fire brings purification.
Truth/Stone The Arrow. Follow the facts. Facts point to truth. Direct path.
Truth/Water   Forgiveness. Second Chance. Healing. Knowledge is vital.
Fate/Wind   Whim of Fate. Small actions amplified.
Fate/Sun   Trial/Enemy. Unavoidable enemy or struggle. Inner struggle.
Fate/Stone   Calm/The Balance. Uneventful. Non-action. To wait, also compensation
Fate/Water   Profits. Sudden Gain. Health, or good fortune.
Kings/Wind   Shifting of power. The upper hand. Political change.
Kings/Sun   The Harsh. Unfairness. Harsh judgment. Iron rule.
Kings/Stone   Means/Law. Justice. The law. The good of society.
Kings/Water   Righteousness/Ends. Vindication for good intentions. Good of the many
Deceit/Wind   Things that change still remain the same. Tradition.
Deceit/Sun   Betrayer. Treachery. Cheating. Lying. Conning. Also smooth talker.
Deceit/Stone Escape from pursuit or bonds, or offenders getting away.
Deceit/Water The Thief. something stolen. Bad judgment. Bad investment.
Death/Wind   Perpetual change. Loss of love. Flame burned out.
Death/Sun   The Scar. Permanent injury. Eternal effects. Lost mind.
Death/Stone   Slavery. death. Stopping, rest, retire, settle down.
Death/Water   Poison. Lost friend or family. Missing cherished object.

Very very nice. Next time I play a tribal... This.

[Patuk]

I'm going to devise my own system anyway. I've looked through the cards' imagings, they got potential.

[AmandaGreathouse]

Thank you so much for fixing the kruth page!

SOOOOOO MUUUUUUUCH!

I've always -adored- playing with kruth cards as a rough fortune-telling tool, as a tarot reader IRL. It means a lot to me to see the information back and better than ever.

[ShaLeah]

I'm going to devise my own system anyway. I've looked through the cards' imagings, they got potential.

I have a concept for this with my own made up kruth version. Nooooooooooow... Ender's char once read my char's cards, he was AMAZINGLY accurate sooooooooooooo... rock on Kruth readers, rock on.