New Command: toss

Started by Creslin, May 22, 2012, 11:14:43 AM

Suggesting a new 'toss' command to toss an item in to another room.

toss <item> <direction>

Possible uses:
- Toss a lit torch in to another room to light a dark room and scout ahead.
- Toss something to a prisoner from outside their cell.
- Toss something to someone in another room when entering the room may be dangerous or undesirable (Hostage situation with ransom? About to get mugged and throwing something to appease potential mugger? I don't know just making this up as I go...)

I'm sure people can think of tons of different ways to use this command I'm just not very creative at the moment.  ???

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Yes please. Over and over again through the years I've needed the ability to do this. Only one rope when trying to climb out of a hole? Climb up and toss the rope back for the other person to use. Idea this in game if you haven't already too.

It appears that you can use the throw command to do this already, even if you don't have throw (at least, these NPCs sure can, and they don't have throw).

Quote from: Creslin on May 22, 2012, 11:14:43 AM
Suggesting a new 'toss' command to toss an item in to another room.

toss <item> <direction>

Possible uses:
- Toss a lit torch in to another room to light a dark room and scout ahead.
>wield torch
>throw torch amos west


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- Toss something to a prisoner from outside their cell.

>hold bread
>throw bread prisoner north


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- Toss something to someone in another room when entering the room may be dangerous or undesirable (Hostage situation with ransom? About to get mugged and throwing something to appease potential mugger? I don't know just making this up as I go...)

>put coins bag
>hold bag
>throw bag dude north
>flee self

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Quote from: Nyr on May 22, 2012, 11:48:42 AM
Possible uses:
- Toss a lit torch in to another room to light a dark room and scout ahead.
>wield torch
>throw torch amos west


Of course, you'd need there to be something IN that room to throw at.  Throw needs a target.  (Doesn't seem like you can throw without a target.)
Quote from: LauraMars on December 15, 2016, 08:17:36 PMPaint on a mustache and be a dude for a day. Stuff some melons down my shirt, cinch up a corset and pass as a girl.

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Thanks for the reply Nyr. Any chance of getting a change to throw so that you can target a room and not have to target a PC/NPC? Like throw <item> <direction> instead of throw <item> <target> <direction>?

Also does that count as a hostile action? Throwing non-weapons at a person? Does it just go in their inventory?

Right, that's the problem. If there's a hole in the room to the east say and you want to toss something over there so it falls into the hole with someone who is down in it, you can't. If you can't see a target in the other room, you can't. It would be nice to be able to throw an item a direction without having a specific target to throw at there.

I don't believe, as long as the time isn't a weapon, it is considered hostile and I believe it does go into their inventory.

Quote from: Creslin on May 22, 2012, 11:52:47 AM
Also does that count as a hostile action? Throwing non-weapons at a person? Does it just go in their inventory?

In my testing it just fell on the floor because it wasn't going to hit the person.  Of course, if you're a staffer and you're throwing a fruit, you can kill someone.  (partly because you have the skill and the strength to do so)

Quote from: A Large Bag on May 22, 2012, 11:53:47 AM
Right, that's the problem. If there's a hole in the room to the east say and you want to toss something over there so it falls into the hole with someone who is down in it, you can't. If you can't see a target in the other room, you can't. It would be nice to be able to throw an item a direction without having a specific target to throw at there.

Not sure this would be easy to do or not.  At least there's a workaround for most hole/pit situations:  make sure someone can climb so you can throw stuff down to them after climbing out over the ledge.  You can also wish up.
Quote from: LauraMars on December 15, 2016, 08:17:36 PMPaint on a mustache and be a dude for a day. Stuff some melons down my shirt, cinch up a corset and pass as a girl.

With appropriate roleplay of course.

On a related note,
I've always wanted to subdue somebody and throw them down a hole...
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Quote from: Eriad on May 22, 2012, 02:30:07 PM
On a related note,
I've always wanted to subdue somebody and throw them down a hole...

I swear this happened to me once, being shoved into a jail cell.
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Quote from: Eriad on May 22, 2012, 02:30:07 PM
On a related note,
I've always wanted to subdue somebody and throw them down a hole...

You can do this. Though they changed the code and I always forget the syntax. I believe it's just "throw [person] (command emote) north.

Please use a word other than 'toss', otherwise this will render all players from the UK sniggering wrecks.

Quote from: Spoon on May 22, 2012, 02:35:15 PM
Please use a word other than 'toss', otherwise this will render all players from the UK sniggering wrecks.

<sniggers>

Maybe a modification to throw so that you can not have a target?

Like archery has now.
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Doesn't throwing already have a command to throw something in a direction alone? At least with weapons? I know shoot does something like that where you can "SHOOT FAR WEST" and it will shoot in that direction. I thought you could do the same with throwing knives and all.

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Quote from: Eriad on May 22, 2012, 02:30:07 PM
On a related note,
I've always wanted to subdue somebody and throw them down a hole...

I'm sure I've
throw not-dead man d

though it's true , I couldn't
throw thing d
which is what many of my PC's would 've tried at least once.








There is a spell, which I am not naming, that allows you to throw <item> room...simple as that....atleast the last time I checked it allowed that.
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There are also weapons and a command (hint: it rhymes with "bro") that allows you to throw items into another room.

I believe Nyr has already answered the purpose here.  The commands we need already exist.  If, for some reason, it doesn't work in a particular location, the player should likely wish up and ask the staff to help discover why it is not working.
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Quote from: Rathustra on June 23, 2016, 03:29:08 PM
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But.. he also pointed out a flaw in that you couldn't throw things without a target.  Sure there are workarounds, but that doesn't mean we can't discuss potential ways to improve things on this discussion board.

Quote from: maxid on May 22, 2012, 05:06:48 PM
But.. he also pointed out a flaw in that you couldn't throw things without a target.  Sure there are workarounds, but that doesn't mean we can't discuss potential ways to improve things on this discussion board.

Exactly what I was thinking. Just because there is a workaround is no reason not to try and make things better in a sensible way and do away with having to rely on a workaround.

This is great if you could wield head. Then throw head. Or hold head.
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Meh.  Back in the old days, we didn't need new commands.

We just needed to find a jozhal.  Throw that in the room, then throw the whatever in right after it.

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Quote from: Rathustra on June 23, 2016, 03:29:08 PM
Stop being shitty to each other.

give half-elf torch
watch east
subdue half-elf
release half-elf east

No but really I don't think you can throw an item in a direction without a target. It'd be really handy if you could.

I've been wanting to collect and throw a pile of heads into the Sanctuary for years now.

Quote from: Malifaxis on May 22, 2012, 05:12:13 PM
Meh.  Back in the old days, we didn't need new commands.

We just needed to find a jozhal.  Throw that in the room, then throw the whatever in right after it.

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Back in the old days, we didn't even Think. 

*lights up his own hardcore cigar*

I prefer the thoughtful posts of actual old timers like LoD to this new fangled dismissal of every post someone makes with suggestions for game improvement  :P

Two limitations of the throw command I wish we could get a work around to: Perhaps not all items are tagged holdable that realistically should be. And being able to throw something without an NPC target in the room.
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