Awesome Stats?

Started by Intrepid, October 26, 2011, 03:43:43 PM

QuoteRandomization has its place when it creates diversity, but not when it creates such inequality. If one character is to be considerably better code-wise than another, it should be because they've earned this through hard work and accomplishments, not luck of the dice

First to the bold part.

Why not? It is realistic, what any living thing gets is a roll of the dice, IE genetics, You have a large range of possible outcomes inside a certain race/species, specially with humans. And in the game, I think this is a case where realism does not normally hurt playability. Specially not with, as Nyr mentioned, stat ordering and reroll undo. If you pay attention to the docs and make a PC inside the right age range (for the stats you want) And you order to go along with that and what you want, the possible outcomes are actually very narrow and almost not random at all.

And if somebody else happens to get alot luckier then you on one PC, So what, not like that is the only PC you or they will ever have...unlike RL where I'm stuck being better then everybody else my entire life...  ;D
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Yeah, it's more fun and realistic for there to be that random luck to it.

I think it's more fun to have exceptional in all four stats, but that's me.
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May 02, 2012, 05:27:02 PM #153 Last Edit: May 02, 2012, 05:28:34 PM by A Large Bag
Characters with that crazy stats always seem doomed to a short life. I get stats where all four are really good and I get nervous.

>reroll self


think OOCly: C'mon, just one average pleeease...The rest can be awesome...just one average...c'mon....c'mon...

In many ways I like the struggle of having an imperfect pc, physical trait wise. I tend to depend on others to compensat, building alliances, role playing out the lack of perfection and its struggle.

Sometimes things can get frustrating, not being able to easly find those things I feel my pc needs to make them them, but its never impossible to achieve.

There is indeed objects in game that will allow one to over come in themselves short comings as well, and every lacking a pc has is an opportunity to explore a new avenue in game.

Not to mention, the lacking of a physical trait can be over come if you apply to the thinking of longevity and ingenuity.
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I think it would be nice to roll before you make your sdesc so you don't make "The fit and trim, perfect 10 buff man" then roll Strength- sucks, endurance- worse, wisdom- special ed.  

If I rolled bad stats, I'd want to change it to "the spastic, wuss boy".

My only character with awesome stats with my first. He was a merchant.

He died.  :D

I like non-awesome stats. All of my most fun characters have had mostly below average-average-above average.
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Oddly enough a merchant of mine had the best stats too.  I don't believe I've ever rolled a natural AI.

I've had some bad rolls, but I've never felt like they've hindered my character at all.  In fact, a low strength character helped me combat packrat syndrome.
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My non-combat characters tend to have the best stats, except for a few cases where it was no surprise due to the age/guild I chose.

I like it when my stats fit my character, regardless of how good/bad they are... but I do love having a character with amazing stats.

They do tend to get in trouble a lot because it's hard to remember not to overestimate them.

Quote from: Delirium on May 02, 2012, 07:54:49 PM
My non-combat characters tend to have the best stats.
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I rolled up a d-elf with AI endurance once.  I believe I just randomed all the stats, and when I saw it I just sort of stared for a little while.

That dude could run forever, no joke.

But, in like somewhere between 8 and 10 years of playing I think that's the only AI I've ever rolled.

I seem to remember having a character with an Absolutely incredible two exceptionals and a bellow average once. I think he lasted all of a day. The problem with it was the stats overcompensated for a lack of skills.
Basically, I went out to 'test' him and masacred the first 4-5 things I killed. More like a 10 day warrior than a 1 day warrior. Then on my way back in I stumbled on something with comparable stats to myself (I'm assuming) Because i couldn't hit it for anything and it chomped on me -.- Just outside of the newbie res time.

But yes,I like the 'random' stats, and no its not really random if you figure out the age range for the race you like you can pretty much hit the nail on the head if you really want those beastly stats I used to have it figured out to a science but that was years ago so I'm not sure I could roll another one like that again on purpose,

I do however kind of have this overwhelming yearning to play a child defiler or psionic. Seriously, start as a child with a family and work up from there actually play it all out from say mid-teens on and let the personality and life experiances go from there. Background would be rediculously short but I always thought it'd be intriguing to see what happened and assuming you could keep yourself alive into the later reaches of life (you know from say 13-14 years old all the way up to 60 or more for a human) To see how absolutely ungodly powerful you could eventually become. Somehow I think I might be disapointed though. Both in how the stats ultimately turned out, aswell in how quickly I "Maxxed out" Said character... Being a 12 year old master defiler could be cool, but where do you go from there?.

Quote from: Kebron on May 03, 2012, 03:52:37 AM
I seem to remember having a character with an Absolutely incredible two exceptionals and a bellow average once. I think he lasted all of a day. The problem with it was the stats overcompensated for a lack of skills.
Basically, I went out to 'test' him and masacred the first 4-5 things I killed. More like a 10 day warrior than a 1 day warrior. Then on my way back in I stumbled on something with comparable stats to myself (I'm assuming) Because i couldn't hit it for anything and it chomped on me -.- Just outside of the newbie res time.

But yes,I like the 'random' stats, and no its not really random if you figure out the age range for the race you like you can pretty much hit the nail on the head if you really want those beastly stats I used to have it figured out to a science but that was years ago so I'm not sure I could roll another one like that again on purpose,

I do however kind of have this overwhelming yearning to play a child defiler or psionic. Seriously, start as a child with a family and work up from there actually play it all out from say mid-teens on and let the personality and life experiances go from there. Background would be rediculously short but I always thought it'd be intriguing to see what happened and assuming you could keep yourself alive into the later reaches of life (you know from say 13-14 years old all the way up to 60 or more for a human) To see how absolutely ungodly powerful you could eventually become. Somehow I think I might be disapointed though. Both in how the stats ultimately turned out, aswell in how quickly I "Maxxed out" Said character... Being a 12 year old master defiler could be cool, but where do you go from there?.

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stats don't mean a whole lot when you have a pretty high shot of getting killed in the first few days (hours) of playing.

imo stats are kind of overrated.. but it really depends on what you want to do.
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I'm really starting to think they are too. Skill level (which is based more on play time than anything) appears far more important. Though now that I've said that I'm sure I'll be inadvertently killed in a brawl by some 20-minute old, "Absolutely Incredible Strength" newb.

stats don't matter


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tell me stats don't matter

I thought stats didn't matter ... then I played with AI's.
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I've had more than a few AI.  They were rarely in the stat I really wanted them in.

Beyond the obvious, IMHO stats matter most to the marginal characters.  Like a pickpocket combat character.  Getting a combination of great dex and decent strength and endurance on the same character (lets say excep dex, v. good str and end) can make the concept sorta work.  Not getting good stats can deep six it from the get go.
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I'm generally happy with my stats. With reroll and undo, you pretty much have a good chance to not be borked too badly ever.

I would not want it to be like, a stat-total thing. I hate that. Then every character is just a permutation of the same numbers. Guh.
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Quote from: Kebron on May 03, 2012, 03:52:37 AM
I do however kind of have this overwhelming yearning to play a child defiler or psionic. Seriously, start as a child with a family and work up from there actually play it all out from say mid-teens on and let the personality and life experiances go from there. Background would be rediculously short but I always thought it'd be intriguing to see what happened and assuming you could keep yourself alive into the later reaches of life (you know from say 13-14 years old all the way up to 60 or more for a human) To see how absolutely ungodly powerful you could eventually become. Somehow I think I might be disapointed though. Both in how the stats ultimately turned out, aswell in how quickly I "Maxxed out" Said character... Being a 12 year old master defiler could be cool, but where do you go from there?.

If you know how to keep a PC alive long enough, the stat increases are GREAT. Mostly because it's fun to actually see them move.

Too bad child PCs aren't permitted anymore.
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Too bad child PCs aren't permitted anymore.

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