When your victim asks to quit.

[Gunnerblaster]

You have no idea whether you could actually get the kill done, or not.  If you do this and you aren't successful you either a) put him on the hook for another 10-15 minutes, making him late for a RL engagement, b) make him suffer through 10-15 minutes of someone bitching at him or c) get to kill him when he goes linkdead because he -really- had to go.

In short, you're being a fucking dick.

Hm. Didn't think of it that way. I guess that's why we talk with others though, right? So we get mature responses that allow us to think "outside" of our boxes.

But, yeah. I didn't really go into specifics on the situations. It's something to definitely consider when faced with OOC urgency.

This is towards the playerbase, in-general:
Hypothetically speaking, if you were to get a PC that was wanted dead into somewhere enclosed and very locked - Instead of unlocking the door for them and letting them leave to quit when they OOC needing to log out for something, wouldn't it be a little reasonable to go ahead and try to kill them? Otherwise - They log back in later, blab about a situation in which you "attempted" to kill them, and basically ruin what should have been a completely and realistically "quiet" murder turning it into the hunt for the would-be "assassin". Of course, should something like letting the "targeted" PC leave for OOC reasons and then them returning and using their OOC escape as a means to spread word - This could be sufficiently handled in a Player Complaint to the Staff.

If the situation arises to where this same PC and yours met in, let's say, some dark alleyway where it is more then likely they could atleast successfully flee from you after the initial confrontation - And they were to OOC having to go - It is plausible to say that, assuming you've already made yourself an "enemy" to them, that they escaped into the alleyways and that both parties should roleplay accordingly.

[Jingo]

Gonna go with Synthesis.

If someone really needs to quit, everything else goes out the window. Abusable? Sure. But that's internet etiquette.

[RogueGunslinger]

If someone really needs to quit they should have the option. Plain and simple. Whether they're about to be raided or not.

[Sinna]

I agree with Rogue.  This is a problem when you can't quit anywhere.  I've had many, many characters die because I had RL stuff going on and had to go link-dead for one reason or another. 

As long as we can't quit-out anywhere, then if you are in game you take chances.

If you need to go so badly, then hand over the greb, I won't even complain about the lack of emotes.

[Is Friday]

I once had a dude run away from my dude when I was a new dude. So I had my dude beat the shit outta that dude. The staff sent my dude a private whisper and told me not to do that.

So since then I haven't done stuff like that to dudes. It's staff policy to stop this sort of thing from happening to dudes, so you shouldn't be doing it, dude.

[BlackMagic0]

I once had a dude run away from my dude when I was a new dude. So I had my dude beat the shit outta that dude. The staff sent my dude a private whisper and told me not to do that.

So since then I haven't done stuff like that to dudes. It's staff policy to stop this sort of thing from happening to dudes, so you shouldn't be doing it, dude.

I'm lost... can you retype this all in english, minus dudes? Dude. 

[Is Friday]

I once had a dude run away from my dude when I was a new dude. So I had my dude beat the shit outta that dude. The staff sent my dude a private whisper and told me not to do that.

So since then I haven't done stuff like that to dudes. It's staff policy to stop this sort of thing from happening to dudes, so you shouldn't be doing it, dude.

I'm lost... can you retype this all in english, minus dudes? Dude. 

Some cat ran away from my PC and tried to QQ to avoid conflict. My cat chased after that cat and beat the shit outta that cat before the imms stepped in.

[BlackMagic0]

I once had a dude run away from my dude when I was a new dude. So I had my dude beat the shit outta that dude. The staff sent my dude a private whisper and told me not to do that.

So since then I haven't done stuff like that to dudes. It's staff policy to stop this sort of thing from happening to dudes, so you shouldn't be doing it, dude.

I'm lost... can you retype this all in english, minus dudes? Dude. 

Some cat ran away from my PC and tried to QQ to avoid conflict. My cat chased after that cat and beat the shit outta that cat before the imms stepped in.

The question part:

Why would the staff stop you? If its IC to beat that person up, raid, mug, or pillage their assholes for your pirate plunger pleasure?
Eh.. I hate people that rush to quit-save rooms, to quit out to avoid conflict, losing a PC, or fighting.

[Is Friday]

I once had a dude run away from my dude when I was a new dude. So I had my dude beat the shit outta that dude. The staff sent my dude a private whisper and told me not to do that.

So since then I haven't done stuff like that to dudes. It's staff policy to stop this sort of thing from happening to dudes, so you shouldn't be doing it, dude.

I'm lost... can you retype this all in english, minus dudes? Dude.  

Some cat ran away from my PC and tried to QQ to avoid conflict. My cat chased after that cat and beat the shit outta that cat before the imms stepped in.

The question part:

Why would the staff stop you? If its IC to beat that person up, raid, mug, or pillage their assholes for your pirate plunger pleasure?
Eh.. I hate people that rush to quit-save rooms, to quit out to avoid conflict, losing a PC, or fighting.

Uhhh... if I recall correctly, they force D/C'd.

edit: Definitely something I don't do nowadays, obviously.

[Saellyn]

Yeah, unless the guy link-deads on me, chances are I'd just let him go. But if he goes link-dead, with one quick OOC, well... sorry, dude. You're dead meat. Depending what happened.

If you find yourself in a cave, it's because I spent an hour trying to subdue you and dragged your rear end to safety.

Not.

That will never happen.

[RogueGunslinger]

Dude don't kill link-dead people... seriously wtf? You can never know why he disconnected. If you see someone link-dead tell staff, they will log them out. I mean fuck, they sent you an OOC. Respect your fellow player, man.


This really comes down to: a player should be able to quit anywhere, at any time. With appropriate delay to people just in combat and whatnot.

[Sinna]

The staff has said repeatedly that a player's link is not their concern.
They may log someone out (if someone responds to the wish), but there is not promise of this.
It isn't wrong to kill LD characters.  It is wrong to kill them because they are link dead.

If my character is desperate enough for your water and the type to do it and your character looks like a meal ticket, you'll be apping pretty soon.  Promise.  I expect no less from you.

Being able to quit anywhere or auto-quitting out folks after idle time would solve this problem, but it hasn't been done.  One must wonder why.  

I agree we all should be able to quit out anywhere - why just rangers, I've no idea.  This means whenever I play a wilderness character I can _only_ play rangers because you know, RL and you may be 30 minutes or more from a quit location and sometimes RL stuff won't wait 30 minutes.  Given two hours to play, for example, I can't afford to be 30 minutes away from a quit location.  It limits my enjoyment of the game, certainly.

Edit to Add:
They have also stated in the docs that if someone has been mean to you, they probably have.  While it is not nice to kill someone who OOCs you about going LD and one would be wise to give that pause for thought, there is no obligation to honor that.

[jstorrie]

Dude don't kill link-dead people... seriously wtf?

what if I'm really really stoned and I feel compelled to

[RogueGunslinger]

Well not everyone get's a second chance.

[Kryos]

Dude don't kill link-dead people... seriously wtf?

what if I'm really really stoned and I feel compelled to

You should get account notes, karma removal, and forced storage on your current pc.  But hey, that's just my opinion.

[AmandaGreathouse]

Dude don't kill link-dead people... seriously wtf?

what if I'm really really stoned and I feel compelled to

You should get account notes, karma removal, and forced storage on your current pc.  But hey, that's just my opinion.

One that I can't help but agree with.

[BlackMagic0]

If they go link dead while I am fighting them, for no reason, should put mercy on. See if they reconnect if not, you already RP'd out the scene, were just getting to the death part. Either do it or just rob them blind and leave them naked in the sands, knocked out..

If they go link dead, and don't come back after 30 minutes. Wish up, or send in a player complaint. DO NOT KILL THEM.
It could be he went link dead to avoid death, like a twink, or could be his internet fucked up. Sadly is no way to tell.

[X-D]

I've had people emote going link dead before.

That being said. If it is IC for my PC to kill yours, being or going linkdead is not going to change the matter.

And that being said, if it is IC for my PC to save the kill for another time, I will do so.

[brytta.leofa]

Attacking someone because he's gone or linkdead is pretty awful.

Attacking someone because your character needs to, even though he's unable to respond, is a bit different.

[kuhfelsen]

I've had people emote going link dead before.

That being said. If it is IC for my PC to kill yours, being or going linkdead is not going to change the matter.

And that being said, if it is IC for my PC to save the kill for another time, I will do so.

They emoting that? That's low...

[X-D]

Yes well, it was low, but at least then I did not feel bad about going

(Disclaimer: This is also a nono folks.)

em walks south;hide

[spicemustflow]

I've had people emote going link dead before.

Maybe a stupid question, but how can you tell?

[X-D]

Well, When they put an extra space into the emote you kinda gotta wonder.

In the case in question they also neglected to do a reconnect emote.

[spicemustflow]

haha, ok. I didn't think it was that amateurish.

[Barzalene]

Heh.  I've heard of some raiders taking so long that their victims actually dehydrated to death while they were flapping their gums.

I hope that was a true story, because it's fucking hilarious.

Pacing back and forth, the man in the black leather mask says, in sirihish:
   "Moving on to section 7, subsection 7A under Methods of Approved Travel, victim and persons related to, employed by, or in cohorts with victim, shall no longer travel the roadway hereby termed the "North Road" without express written permission by "Black Moon Raider Inc", unless said travel is in conjunction to a meeting demand made by the management of Black Moon Raider Inc, co-Wayed by at least two officers of said organization..."

The slender, wiry man says, in sirihish:
   "So...thirsty..."

Blinking, as if distracted, the man in the black leather mask says, in sirihish:
   "Please, we're only on page 3 of the raider-victim post-encounter agreement, and we already covered "Pleas for Help, Food, and Water" under section 4, subsection 4A -- are you even listening?"

Is running out to buy a ring so she can propose to LOD