Suiciding: The Unspoken Rule

[Zoan]

I swear I never suicided my poor-strength delf, Looonie. I loved that widdle guy.

[Aaron Goulet]

Personally, I'm shocked that everybody he talked to thought it was ok to suicide.

It's always the same crowd that says it.  Perhaps I'm jaded.

Then I'm jaded too.  A lot has changed since 2004, but not this.

[Reiloth]

I played a Haruch Kemad elven crimelord with 3 poor stats and 1 BA stat.

It was my favorite character to date, and I was really sad to see him go more than my TRIPLE EXCEPTIONAL WARRIOR OF BADASSERY!

There's something about having shitty stats that just makes you say "Fuck it" and play Armageddon like it should be played.

Then again, I am a sucker for awesome stats. It's nice to stand out in the crowd, but it usually leads to you being a leader. So -- Middle of the road, FTW!

Having those shit stats as a Haruch Kemad crimelord probably helped more than hinder him in surviving, psychologically speaking.

Well, actually, his 'position' made him seem much more powerful than he actually was, and he never killed a single PC, just had other people do it. So his power was more in what people assumed he could do, rather than what he -could- do.

It was a ton of fun. It was right before the HORRIBLE MAGICKAL TIMES OF THE LABYRINTH CIRCA 2007/08.

[jmordetsky]

My best character ever had horrible stats.

Suiciding for stats is lame.

[drasik]

I've never really suicided ever. It may have appeared to the Imms that I did, but I've never died on purpose.

And suiciding for stats is dumb as hell. Some of my favorite PCs didn't have great stats, just mediocre.

[Riev]

My impression was that this is also a newbie / veteran divide on survivability.  Now that I can keep a character alive more than two or three days, I'm not as insistent on higher stats.  It took learning a new playstyle for me, though.

I think this is a valid distinction as well. When I first started, I knew -nothing- but what I figured out on my own. So, if I made a ranger with VG strength, and I could kill a tregil, and then made another with below average strength and couldn't.. I admit I would suicide because I didn't understand what was going on.

Often, now, I hope certain stats are lower, because I know how to survive and how to "play the game" enough to not care that my endurance was maxed, giving me that extra hit to flee.

[jstorrie]

It was a ton of fun. It was right before the HORRIBLE MAGICKAL TIMES OF THE LABYRINTH CIRCA 2007/08.

You are responsible for a lot of those horrible times yourself, Mister dual-[REDACTED]-wielding, multiple-[REDACTED]-wearing [REDACTED UNUSUAL CREATURE TYPE].

[Versu]

I want a spike pit in every town for my mis-created pc's. A gortok pit, a 24-7 arena floor and someone to murder me on stand-by.

[KankWhisperer]

Nah...should have bad stats arena!!!

[Myrdryn]

Nah...should have bad stats arena!!!

Yeah, the winners are sentenced to a long life because obviously their stats aren't that bad.

[mansa]

I have a story, similar to Reiloth.  A character with terrible TERRIBLE stats, yet had the most fun with.

[spicemustflow]

I did a fair bit of suiciding. Not that I'm proud of it at all, but I came into the game with a D&D maxxing mindset. Even though my tabletop crowd 'tried' to roleplay, a fighter under 18/90 strength was perceived as a pussy. Took me a while to shed that off. Also, guilty of suiciding chars with EXCELLENT stats, I'm talking about exceptionalx3 + extremely good. I had this problem where I wanted to experience as much as possible and wanted to play everything at once. Chronic restarter syndrome. It all backfired, I'm playing the game for more than a year, maybe even two, and have yet to see a plot. I had some wonderful opportunities but I blew them. So, forget the imms and their notes, it all comes to bite your ass in the end.

[RogueGunslinger]

I don't suicide for stats, I suicide to make a new character.

[spicemustflow]

I've suicided two PC's to date. Neither has been over their stats.

PC 1: Felt like she killed her daughter and jumped off the Shield Wall. Head first. (Staff assisted.)
       I actually -hated- suiciding that PC. To this date, she's had, IIRC, my best stats so far.  Not to mention how very, very much I enjoyed not only playing her but the interactions she had.  I actually ragequit Arm for like 2 months after that, then stored 3 PC's in a row because I simply didn't enjoy them and couldn't get into the concepts, at all.

Why did you suicide if you hated doing it? Things like that, I mean personal traumas, are cool and could have done wonders for your char's future development. Infinitely better when they happen in game than when merely put in the background.

[AmandaGreathouse]

Because -not- suiciding her would have been OOC (out of her character), no matter -how- much I wanted her to live.

And if the people who left her there had hung around, she likely wouldn't have done it.

But that's just how shit happened.

[Reiloth]

It was a ton of fun. It was right before the HORRIBLE MAGICKAL TIMES OF THE LABYRINTH CIRCA 2007/08.

You are responsible for a lot of those horrible times yourself, Mister dual-[REDACTED]-wielding, multiple-[REDACTED]-wearing [REDACTED UNUSUAL CREATURE TYPE].

Hey man, just because I was mister dual-[REDACTED]-wielding, multiple-[REDACTED]-wearing [REDACTED UNUSUAL CREATURE TYPE] doesn't mean I wasn't a stand up guy. And I totally didn't contribute to that, I just uh...Encouraged it sort of.

[jstorrie]

You were only a stand-up guy in bipedal form.

[Yam]

I'm actually pretty sure he had sex with dead people in bipedal form.

[Majikal]

I usually only suicide for stats if it makes the character absurdly frustrating to play.

I don't care if people suicide. It's like abortion. I support free choice.

[Oleupata]

I kinda care if people suicide. I go through these apps, correcting grammar, spelling, and narrative issues.

If you're just going to kill the character off, I could go do something productive with my life instead.

[X-D]

He must be really upset, only 1 app approved today!

Oops, 2 now.

[Zoltan]

Because -not- suiciding her would have been OOC (out of her character), no matter -how- much I wanted her to live.

And if the people who left her there had hung around, she likely wouldn't have done it.

But that's just how shit happened.

I remember on my first character, he was just beginning a suicide attempt when his best friend wandered into the apartment they shared. That kind of put a stop to it. I wonder if the other guy realized what exactly was happening?

Though I pretty much believe now that suicide would be anathema to almost all people in Zalanthas, sometimes it's just the way things go. Sometimes it -would- be against character to stop it.

[Fathi]

I'm surprised I don't have account notes about how often I suicide my characters because I imagine about 3/4 of my character deaths are so stupid they look like they were suicides.

Like the time I was sitting there, watching my assassin get chewed on by a scrab and said, "Hey look! The scrab is biting me but my HP total isn't going down!"

It was about one bite before the mantis head that I realised I was looking at my stamina points.

[The7DeadlyVenomz]

I kinda care if people suicide. I go through these apps, correcting grammar, spelling, and narrative issues.

If you're just going to kill the character off, I could go do something productive with my life instead.

Fuck yes. I feel that.

[PerpetualPatriot]

I usually only suicide for stats if it makes the character absurdly frustrating to play.

I don't care if people suicide. It's like abortion. I support free choice.