Transfer command

Started by Incognito, July 16, 2009, 12:03:36 PM

In the ongoing pursuit of making Arm more and more versatile and user-friendly, I would like to suggest the following three additions:

1) Transfer command
Syntax:
transfer <number> <item name> <container or inventory> <target container or person>
Examples:
transfer 10 feather backpack chest
transfer 10 stone me chest
transfer 10 knife me nessalin
transfer all.stone 1.chest 3.chest
Onlookers would see something like:
The figure in a dark hooded cloak puts a couple/few/some/many feathers from his backpack into a baobab chest.

2) Partial gag for multiple transfers - i.e. - no more of :
The figure in a dark hooded cloak gives his a bloodied throwing knife to the figure in a dark hooded cloak.
The figure in a dark hooded cloak gives his a bloodied throwing knife to the figure in a dark hooded cloak.
The figure in a dark hooded cloak gives his a bloodied throwing knife to the figure in a dark hooded cloak.
The figure in a dark hooded cloak gives his a bloodied throwing knife to the figure in a dark hooded cloak.
The figure in a dark hooded cloak gives his a bloodied throwing knife to the figure in a dark hooded cloak.
The figure in a dark hooded cloak gives his a bloodied throwing knife to the figure in a dark hooded cloak.
The figure in a dark hooded cloak gives his a bloodied throwing knife to the figure in a dark hooded cloak.

Instead we'd just see :
The figure in a dark hooded cloak gives a couple/few/some/many bloodied throwing knives to the figure in a dark hooded cloak.

3) For those Guilds who have the ability to take/put things with stealth, this could be expanded to include a measure of mystery as in:
Syntax: slip <number> <item name> <target person or container>
The figure in a dark hooded cloak gives something to the figure in a dark hooded cloak.

Anyone using the Watch Skill on either of the two persons transacting, would see something like:
You notice the figure in a dark hooded cloak slipping his a bloodied throwing knife to the figure in a dark hooded cloak.


The figure in a dark hooded cloak says in rinthi-accented Sirihish, 'Winrothol Tor Fale?'

This could be manipulated into the give/drop/put commands instead of creating a new command altogether.

:)

I love the idea of it automatically parsing it correctly.


You give 8 knives to so and so.
Your dude gives so and so several knives.
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On topic, I do NOT want to see the "all." sort of functionality applied to stealing/planting.  I would rather see people use "get all.stone bag;put all.stone pack" rather than some new command.  I could support some sort of gag that works on multiple actions when someone does a 'get all' sort of thing, though.
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July 17, 2009, 06:04:50 AM #4 Last Edit: July 17, 2009, 06:07:31 AM by Incognito
Spawnloser - is there some logic to why you prefer to "get all.stone bag;put all.stone pack" instead of "transfer all.stone bag pack" ?

Please note - my suggestion for the transfer command - was to avoid the delicate issue of agility-based cap on items in inventory. To elaborate, if your HG had a max cap of 5 items in inventory, but you had 20 feathers in a bag which you wanted to put into a chest - the transfer command would automatically transfer all 20 feathers from the bag into the chest, without causing your HG the anguish of doing a get all.feather bag/put all.feather chest 4 times. It would also ONLY transfer the feathers from the bag to the chest, and if you happened to have an extra feather in your inventory at the time, it would still remain there. Think about it.

Also, regarding slip, palm, plant - is there really any difference if you see the quantity being transferred from person A to person B, considering that you might not even notice the exchange in the first place?

Perhaps I misunderstood your post - please explain if so......


Edited to add: Since Transfer is an IMM cmd - this command could always be termed something else - xfer perhaps.
The figure in a dark hooded cloak says in rinthi-accented Sirihish, 'Winrothol Tor Fale?'

Um.

Stack the get.all.feather bag and put all.feather chest commands.

They will currently work concurrently.  IE if you do them both one on top of the other, you should do 2-3 get commands...then you will do a put comand, followed by a get command, followed by a put command....till you run out.
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You can use the empty command to handle much of this request.  Yes, I hear the call to be able to do just certain items, but I think that get all followed by put all is fine to handle that.
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Quote from: Morgenes on July 17, 2009, 08:10:04 PM
You can use the empty command to handle much of this request.  Yes, I hear the call to be able to do just certain items, but I think that get all followed by put all is fine to handle that.

Well, the problem I've been having with that is uber spam, and you can't empty bags onto carpets, rugs, tables, ect. Makes things VERY spammy when you keep all wood piled up on a carpet and you've just collected 50+ branches a a few logs.


Bolded part is what I think would help the most here.


The other reason I think this would be useful, when hunting I keep anything I collect in one bag, but when storing it, I don't put it all in the same place:

transfer all.meat bag bin

transfer all.feather bag basket

transfer all.hide bag trunk
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Quote from: tortall on July 18, 2009, 02:07:14 PM
Well, the problem I've been having with that is uber spam, and you can't empty bags onto carpets, rugs, tables, ect. Makes things VERY spammy when you keep all wood piled up on a carpet and you've just collected 50+ branches a a few logs.

Try the pour command.

>Pour bag bin.
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There is a transfer command. It's how I move you from your sweet apartment to that fall room above the death room in the Sea of Silt.
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Quote from: Olgaris on July 18, 2009, 03:20:08 PM
There is a transfer command. It's how I move you from your sweet apartment to that fall room above the death room in the Sea of Silt.

Could you take my mudex partner with me next time? Falling-down-mudsex would be pretty hot.

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Quote from: tortall on July 18, 2009, 02:07:14 PM
Well, the problem I've been having with that is uber spam, and you can't empty bags onto carpets, rugs, tables, ect. Makes things VERY spammy when you keep all wood piled up on a carpet and you've just collected 50+ branches a a few logs.

Try the pour command.

>Pour bag bin.

You should be able to empty containers onto anything you can put something on or in, for instance, tables definitely should have this.  If you run across items you can't put things on but you feel you should, bug it and we will consider allowing it to have things put on it.

The reason I disagree with the original proposal, and why I feel the empty/pour commands cover what I think should be granted from a 'ease' standpoint, is that to take the time to sort out specific items as suggested (transfer all.feather bag chest), means you're taking the time to pick out each feather in a bag.  If it's a bag full of feathers, use empty or pour, and dump the contents into the chest.  Otherwise, there likely is other stuff that you don't want to put in the chest, and so you need to pick through it with get/put.  Yes it's not perfect, but in my mind if you want better organization than that, you should organize it from the start so that all your feathers are in one bag.
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If the primary issue is spam reduction (and I know it is for me), then what about this:

l in bag
A whole bunch of stuff, plus a whole bunch of feathers, in a variety of colors.

think I need just to put the WHITE feathers..in that box. All of them.

get all white.feather bag

You get as many %item as you can carry from %container, which is currently #n.

inv

You are carrying:
A large bag
five white feathers

ALSO:

It would be great if things that should weigh practically nothing..such as lengths of silk and feathers and bone splinters - be carryable at a higher capacity than currently.

So, whereas a half-giant with lousy agility might only be able to pick up 2 5000-pound chests..

Now, he can carry 2 5000-pound chests AND 5 feathers.

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Quote from: Olgaris on July 18, 2009, 03:20:08 PM
There is a transfer command. It's how I move you from your sweet apartment to that fall room above the death room in the Sea of Silt.

Could you take my mudex partner with me next time? Falling-down-mudsex would be pretty hot.

Sounds like you should try playing a Whiran.  ;)
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