Burglars, reminder

[Riev]

If my character dies (Krath forbid) I would likely roll up a sneaky stealy class, and do my damndest to do it RIGHT. Don't get caught, practice on the right marks at the right time, etc etc.


But I would definitely steal the shit out of a copper pot.

[mansa]

A bar on doors would make the game ever-more interesting.

[Qzzrbl]

A bar on doors would make the game ever-more interesting.

Zalanthans are smart enough to make key-entry door locks out of -wood-.

But completely oblivious to the idea of a door bar.

[Salt Merchant]

A bar on doors would make the game ever-more interesting.

Zalanthans are smart enough to make key-entry door locks out of -wood-.

But completely oblivious to the idea of a door bar.

I've decided to view this as a templarate sort of thing. No one is allowed to fortify their homes.

[Zharal]

I think a Bar slide on doors as option would be awsome.. just dont put them in every apartment
and if it could be made to unlock upon logging out would be cool too; then burgulars lease have
a chance.. Make it more of a online experience..  my two cents, but I love the idea...  plus it aint
like a half-giant couldn't bash the door in should it be a Templarete issue.. Damn I love this idea.

[Sephiroto]

I've decided to view this as a templarate sort of thing. No one is allowed to fortify their homes.

Why?  They have half-giant soldiers.  Staff could always script some way for them to bash down (open) any door through some "order follower" command.

[Salt Merchant]

I've decided to view this as a templarate sort of thing. No one is allowed to fortify their homes.

Why?  They have half-giant soldiers.  Staff could always script some way for them to bash down (open) any door through some "order follower" command.

Why?  Because while a half-giant might smack open a door with a lock in a single blow, a good stout barred door could take longer, especially to clear the wreckage for the soldiers to fit through. Meanwhile every shady in the area (including the ones behind the door) are given ample warning to flee through any bolt holes they have, dispose of incriminating evidence, hide, or whatever.

Really why? It's the closest thing to a good explanation (still not very good though) available for this playability-trumps-realism issue.

[mansa]

Imagine being a smart burglar, who has to track their victims in order to know -when- they leave their apartments, and NOT when they log out of the game.

[a strange shadow]

Oblivion-style burglary would rock.

[AmandaGreathouse]

Oblivion-style burglary would rock.

Yes. I don't get into sneaky roles at all as it is, but if it was like Oblivion... Oh man. But then I was one of the people that never once used autopick while beating the game. The attempts at manually picking the door were all too amazingly fun and challenging.

[a strange shadow]

The lockpicking minigame was fun (doing it manually loses you less picks, I find...) but I was talking more about the whole "living NPCs" script - tons of houses to rob, objects in them to take, someone may or may not be home, but if you watch the NPC in question long enough you can figure out the best time to make a hit. NPC's objects could load randomly and at a random rate, within a certain parameter ("object quality: high, average, poor, load: frequently, infrequently"), but all that sounds way too complicated to put into Armageddon 1.0. Still, a thief can dream.

[AmandaGreathouse]

True enough.

[Zharal]

Thats a good point.. hell in rl people case houses alll the time to see when its free to mess with..
and as far as a half giant... hell any 15 foot giant would be able to smash a door down..

[musashi]

The lockpicking minigame was fun (doing it manually loses you less picks, I find...) but I was talking more about the whole "living NPCs" script - tons of houses to rob, objects in them to take, someone may or may not be home, but if you watch the NPC in question long enough you can figure out the best time to make a hit. NPC's objects could load randomly and at a random rate, within a certain parameter ("object quality: high, average, poor, load: frequently, infrequently"), but all that sounds way too complicated to put into Armageddon 1.0. Still, a thief can dream.

That would be a fantastic idea for reborn though.

[Qzzrbl]

Just because someone bars a door doesn't mean you need to get an HG to get past it-- there -are- tools to get by barred doors IRL, y'know. 

[Pale Horse]

Just because someone bars a door doesn't mean you need to get an HG to get past it-- there -are- tools to get by barred doors IRL, y'know. 

IG, too!  They're called Magickers.

[MarshallDFX]

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>barricade n
>Barricade with what?
>barricade n log log branch
>That direction doesn't have a closed door to barricade!
>barricade e log log branch
>You build a shitty barricade on the east exit.
>A tall, muscular man has arrived from the east, breaking through a barricade.
> think shit!
> You think:
     "shit!"
>barricade e log log log log log plank plank plank branch branch rope
>You build an unbelievably awesome barricade on the east exit.
>think Damn.  I left my food outside.
> You think:
     "Damn.  I left my food outside."
>remove barricade e
>You tear down a barricade to the east.


Meh, not quite perfect.  Something the reverse of guard.