Assess -v

Started by FantasyWriter, May 31, 2009, 12:55:52 AM

Quote from: Veges on June 23, 2009, 01:04:22 PM
Will half-elves who choose to codedly resemble elves be given a higher allundean skill to reflect their likelihood of having spent more time among elves?

No, it has nothing to do with your upbringing, just what you more physically resemble.  If you want that you can submit a special application.
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em sighs, preparing for the inevitable flood of half-elven humans.

Quote from: Qzzrbl on June 23, 2009, 06:47:49 PM
em sighs, preparing for the inevitable flood of half-elven humans.

I believe that happened a month or two ago. ;)
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June 23, 2009, 06:51:04 PM #153 Last Edit: June 23, 2009, 06:52:44 PM by Qzzrbl
Quote from: FantasyWriter on June 23, 2009, 06:48:51 PM
Quote from: Qzzrbl on June 23, 2009, 06:47:49 PM
em sighs, preparing for the inevitable flood of half-elven humans.

I believe that happened a month or two ago. ;)

Yeah, but now we won't even know. D:

This change really kinda puts a damper on me and other people who <3's them some hot Zalanthan racism, because now we won't know who to treat like shit. :/

Unless some people stick with looking like a breed, but I see that becoming rare as hell.

Quote from: Qzzrbl on June 23, 2009, 06:51:04 PM
Quote from: FantasyWriter on June 23, 2009, 06:48:51 PM
Quote from: Qzzrbl on June 23, 2009, 06:47:49 PM
em sighs, preparing for the inevitable flood of half-elven humans.

I believe that happened a month or two ago. ;)

Yeah, but now we won't even know. D:

This change really kinda puts a damper on me and other people who <3's them some hot Zalanthan racism, because now we won't know who to treat like shit. :/

Unless some people stick with looking like a breed, but I see that becoming rare as hell.

Honestly, I doubt it. And now, it'll just be a little trickier to tell. A well-RP'd breed, you can still possibly find out, even if they can codedly appear human or elven.
"Life isn't divided into genres. It's a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you're lucky."

--Alan Moore

June 23, 2009, 07:41:38 PM #155 Last Edit: June 23, 2009, 07:45:30 PM by Qzzrbl
Quote from: NoteworthyFellow on June 23, 2009, 07:32:25 PM
Quote from: Qzzrbl on June 23, 2009, 06:51:04 PM
Quote from: FantasyWriter on June 23, 2009, 06:48:51 PM
Quote from: Qzzrbl on June 23, 2009, 06:47:49 PM
em sighs, preparing for the inevitable flood of half-elven humans.

I believe that happened a month or two ago. ;)

Yeah, but now we won't even know. D:

This change really kinda puts a damper on me and other people who <3's them some hot Zalanthan racism, because now we won't know who to treat like shit. :/

Unless some people stick with looking like a breed, but I see that becoming rare as hell.

Honestly, I doubt it. And now, it'll just be a little trickier to tell. A well-RP'd breed, you can still possibly find out, even if they can codedly appear human or elven.

That's just the thing.... I've only really seen two or three "well-rp'd" breeds in my year of playing.... I'm not saying there aren't any more well-played breeds, just that I never seem to run into them.

I'd feel alot better if this "Select human, half-elf, or elf" for breeds were made a karma option.

I just fear that newer players will read the docs and think, "Half-elves get stats and stuff that I'd like to have.... But are treated like dirt. I'VE GOT IT! I'll just make him look human and drop no hints whatsoever at his elven blood! :D".

And then they'd start to get the idea that it's okay to be a half-elf. Which it's not. Not socially at least.

But then again, I'm probably just being paranoid.

Quote from: Qzzrbl on June 23, 2009, 07:41:38 PM
Quote from: NoteworthyFellow on June 23, 2009, 07:32:25 PM
Quote from: Qzzrbl on June 23, 2009, 06:51:04 PM
Quote from: FantasyWriter on June 23, 2009, 06:48:51 PM
Quote from: Qzzrbl on June 23, 2009, 06:47:49 PM
em sighs, preparing for the inevitable flood of half-elven humans.

I believe that happened a month or two ago. ;)

Yeah, but now we won't even know. D:

This change really kinda puts a damper on me and other people who <3's them some hot Zalanthan racism, because now we won't know who to treat like shit. :/

Unless some people stick with looking like a breed, but I see that becoming rare as hell.

Honestly, I doubt it. And now, it'll just be a little trickier to tell. A well-RP'd breed, you can still possibly find out, even if they can codedly appear human or elven.

That's just the thing.... I've only really seen two or three "well-rp'd" breeds in my year of playing.... I'm not saying there aren't any more well-played breeds, just that I never seem to run into them.

I'd feel alot better if this "Select human, half-elf, or elf" for breeds were made a karma option.

I just fear that newer players will read the docs and think, "Half-elves get stats and stuff that I'd like to have.... But are treated like dirt. I'VE GOT IT! I'll just make him look human and drop no hints whatsoever at his elven blood! :D".

And then they'd start to get the idea that it's okay to be a half-elf. Which it's not. Not socially at least.

But then again, I'm probably just being paranoid.

Honestly? I hate to be negative, but I'm not sure karma's going to ensure much if anything. There are plenty of players with karma who don't roleplay half-elves well. I'm comfortable enough with it as it is--making it a 1 or 2 karma option would make no difference, and any more karma than that would be kind of absurd.
"Life isn't divided into genres. It's a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you're lucky."

--Alan Moore

I like the change. I hate how you ass -v someone, and then you know they're a breed. I think more players abuse THAT then this will be abused. I'm more likely now to try and play a concealed, well-thought out breed. Before, I wouldn't have wanted to, because you're relying on everyone else NOT simply v ass'ing you and saying "BREED! SCUM!" Has never appealed to me.

Some people may abuse it, but I'm not more likely to play a breed just for stat reasons. If people are playing for stat reasons, they'd probably find other ways to abuse the system anyways, reguardless of this change or no.
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You know what I like about this? I'm gonna be able to start looking down at all those skinny, almond-eyed people I see around so much.  I can't wait.
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Quote from: Dalmeth on June 23, 2009, 08:14:38 PM
You know what I like about this? I'm gonna be able to start looking down at all those skinny, almond-eyed people I see around so much.  I can't wait.

The added potential for suspicion is great.
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The arrow swift, the Gate is strong.
The heart is bold that looks on gold;
The dwarves no more shall suffer wrong.

Quote from: brytta.leofa on June 23, 2009, 08:28:56 PM
Quote from: Dalmeth on June 23, 2009, 08:14:38 PM
You know what I like about this? I'm gonna be able to start looking down at all those skinny, almond-eyed people I see around so much.  I can't wait.

The added potential for suspicion is great.

Hadn't thought of it that way. Now I like it even more.
"Life isn't divided into genres. It's a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you're lucky."

--Alan Moore

And more outrage when you discover that you've been kanking one.

Or trusting one.

Or treating it like it wasn't a breed.

How embarrassing!
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You go south and one of the other directions that isn't north.  That is seriously the limit of my geographical knowledge of Arm.
Sarge?

I've seen half-elves who are obviously half-elves not being treated like dirt. And I've seen some newbies with human like half-elves pull it off great. Lol, I think breeds are much easier to roleplay correctly than dwarves or elves and certainly less abusable than a dwarf; might as well let them be 0-karma.

Heheh, I'm going to suspect all you rangers out there of being half-elves now. And I'm going to make one coded human with slightly sharp ears sometime in the future.
Quote from: Rahnevyn on March 09, 2009, 03:39:45 PM
Clans can give stat bonuses and penalties, too. The Byn drop in wisdom is particularly notorious.

QuoteHeheh, I'm going to suspect ...

Nah, they smell different from us.

I don't know if anybody knows this or not (apparently not...) but you shouldn't be worried about people "twinking" by having half-elves that look like humans--because halfies with shitty stats are a statistical majority.
Quote from: Fathi on March 08, 2018, 06:40:45 PMAnd then I sat there going "really? that was it? that's so stupid."

I still think the best closure you get in Armageddon is just moving on to the next character.

Quote from: Qzzrbl on June 23, 2009, 07:41:38 PM
Quote from: NoteworthyFellow on June 23, 2009, 07:32:25 PM
Quote from: Qzzrbl on June 23, 2009, 06:51:04 PM
Quote from: FantasyWriter on June 23, 2009, 06:48:51 PM
Quote from: Qzzrbl on June 23, 2009, 06:47:49 PM
em sighs, preparing for the inevitable flood of half-elven humans.

I believe that happened a month or two ago. ;)

Yeah, but now we won't even know. D:

This change really kinda puts a damper on me and other people who <3's them some hot Zalanthan racism, because now we won't know who to treat like shit. :/

Unless some people stick with looking like a breed, but I see that becoming rare as hell.

Honestly, I doubt it. And now, it'll just be a little trickier to tell. A well-RP'd breed, you can still possibly find out, even if they can codedly appear human or elven.

That's just the thing.... I've only really seen two or three "well-rp'd" breeds in my year of playing.... I'm not saying there aren't any more well-played breeds, just that I never seem to run into them.

I'd feel alot better if this "Select human, half-elf, or elf" for breeds were made a karma option.

I just fear that newer players will read the docs and think, "Half-elves get stats and stuff that I'd like to have.... But are treated like dirt. I'VE GOT IT! I'll just make him look human and drop no hints whatsoever at his elven blood! :D".

And then they'd start to get the idea that it's okay to be a half-elf. Which it's not. Not socially at least.

But then again, I'm probably just being paranoid.

Because reacting to what your character sees in another person's behaviour or physical appearance is somehow worse than reacting to what you see with an infallible coded command? That's actually very Armageddon.

I liked the old rule.
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The best part about playing a human-like half-elf is manipulating your associates into killing anyone who dares call you a half-elf.

Quote from: jstorrie on June 24, 2009, 02:12:35 PM
The best part about playing a human-like half-elf is manipulating your associates into killing anyone who dares call you a half-elf.

I've always suspected that that was the true reason behind the earphones in your avatar.  Hiding your skinny heritage, no doubt.
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Quote from: lordcooper
You go south and one of the other directions that isn't north.  That is seriously the limit of my geographical knowledge of Arm.
Sarge?

Quote from: Thunkkin on June 23, 2009, 09:35:56 PM
And more outrage when you discover that you've been kanking one.

Or trusting one.

Or treating it like it wasn't a breed.

How embarrassing!

I had this happen to a PC of mine. OOCly, I knew from ass -v that he was a breed, but ICly my poor PC had no clue. It was some amazing role-play when they found out. I do wish I hadn't known OOCly, though. Something like this would have been awesome.
As of February 2017, I no longer play Armageddon.