Idea: "Mumble"

[DustMight]

What we don't need is more and more complicated command sets.  What we need to do is maximize our use of our existing commands with appropriate and inventive roleplay.

I see a lot of additional and somewhat unneeded "bloat" to the game that could be handled with a more thoughtful application of role play.

For example, we don't need an "approach" command or complicated movement vectoring - we need rational roleplaying - really, (extreme example of course) all roleplay could happen in one room if we approached our interactions with a bit of suspension of disbelief and a thoughtful understanding of what is occurring in the environment.

We don't need a "mumble" command when we can already whisper, emote speaking to ourselves and leave words out or in to paint the picture we would like.  Others can freely decide how much they (don't) hear based on how realistic that is.

We dont' need tool code (which we already have) if we just approached craft making with the understanding that it would be good roleplay to use tools.   

Much like the finest (hopefully you've read this far and haven't already responded to my post) roleplaying games - you don't even need rules - you need people sitting around a table agreeing to share in a reality-creation for several hours.

In my mind, this "mumble" is a symptom of a cancer.  Are we role-playing or roll-playing here?

[Ampere]

What we don't need is more and more complicated command sets.  What we need to do is maximize our use of our existing commands with appropriate and inventive roleplay.

I see a lot of additional and somewhat unneeded "bloat" to the game that could be handled with a more thoughtful application of role play.

For example, we don't need an "approach" command or complicated movement vectoring - we need rational roleplaying - really, (extreme example of course) all roleplay could happen in one room if we approached our interactions with a bit of suspension of disbelief and a thoughtful understanding of what is occurring in the environment.

We don't need a "mumble" command when we can already whisper, emote speaking to ourselves and leave words out or in to paint the picture we would like.  Others can freely decide how much they (don't) hear based on how realistic that is.

We dont' need tool code (which we already have) if we just approached craft making with the understanding that it would be good roleplay to use tools.   

Much like the finest (hopefully you've read this far and haven't already responded to my post) roleplaying games - you don't even need rules - you need people sitting around a table agreeing to share in a reality-creation for several hours.

In my mind, this "mumble" is a symptom of a cancer.  Are we role-playing or roll-playing here?

mumble: a quiet or unintelligible vocalization; a low tone of voice.
whisper: speak softly; in a low voice.

whisper self = mumble

[Synthesis]

What we don't need is more and more complicated command sets.  What we need to do is maximize our use of our existing commands with appropriate and inventive roleplay.

I see a lot of additional and somewhat unneeded "bloat" to the game that could be handled with a more thoughtful application of role play.

For example, we don't need an "approach" command or complicated movement vectoring - we need rational roleplaying - really, (extreme example of course) all roleplay could happen in one room if we approached our interactions with a bit of suspension of disbelief and a thoughtful understanding of what is occurring in the environment.

We don't need a "mumble" command when we can already whisper, emote speaking to ourselves and leave words out or in to paint the picture we would like.  Others can freely decide how much they (don't) hear based on how realistic that is.

We dont' need tool code (which we already have) if we just approached craft making with the understanding that it would be good roleplay to use tools.   

Much like the finest (hopefully you've read this far and haven't already responded to my post) roleplaying games - you don't even need rules - you need people sitting around a table agreeing to share in a reality-creation for several hours.

In my mind, this "mumble" is a symptom of a cancer.  Are we role-playing or roll-playing here?

[X-D]

Whisper self is fine, mumble, I don't care, and I doubt if anybody else here cares much. Other then those going..NO, No new syntax! Which, for something so simple I find mildly funny.

BUT, If it is just being able to whisper self, it should still parse to something other then.

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The tall muscular man whispers to himself.

You overhear the tall muscular man whispering to himself in sirihish, "Fucking idiot."

That just looks silly. No reason why if self is used with whisper that it cannot parse to mumble for the echo.

[NoteworthyFellow]

Whisper self is fine, mumble, I don't care, and I doubt if anybody else here cares much. Other then those going..NO, No new syntax! Which, for something so simple I find mildly funny.

BUT, If it is just being able to whisper self, it should still parse to something other then.

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The tall muscular man whispers to himself.

You overhear the tall muscular man whispering to himself in sirihish, "Fucking idiot."

That just looks silly. No reason why if self is used with whisper that it cannot parse to mumble for the echo.

I like this.  Whisper self, have it parse to mumble, the end.  I'd use it all the damn time.

[Reiloth]

As would I.

[SMuz]

Whisper self is fine, mumble, I don't care, and I doubt if anybody else here cares much. Other then those going..NO, No new syntax! Which, for something so simple I find mildly funny.

BUT, If it is just being able to whisper self, it should still parse to something other then.

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The tall muscular man whispers to himself.

You overhear the tall muscular man whispering to himself in sirihish, "Fucking idiot."

That just looks silly. No reason why if self is used with whisper that it cannot parse to mumble for the echo.

I like this.  Whisper self, have it parse to mumble, the end.  I'd use it all the damn time.

Yup, I'd go with that. But if it's going to be a whisper, I'd like it to apply to items as well Seriously.

Stuff.

Personally, I don't like 'pretending I didn't see that', because I did. It's like when someone emotes punching at you and you choose whether to emote dodging the blow or to emote getting hit. Something like this helps in suspension of disbelief, the code itself is being a referee to the communication. Without rules, it would just be a MUSH. More complicated command sets doesn't seem to be much of a problem to most players, since Armageddon already has the most complicated emoting system in the world

[FantasyWriter]

Or how about whisper with no argument?

>Whisper (under his breath) If he doesn't shut the feck up, I'm gonna jab this spear up his arse.

No llisten: The man says something under his breath.

Good enough listen: The man whispers, under his breath, in sirihish:
               "If he doesn't shut the feck up, I'm gonna jab this spear up his arse."

[DustMight]

Stuff.

Personally, I don't like 'pretending I didn't see that', because I did. It's like when someone emotes punching at you and you choose whether to emote dodging the blow or to emote getting hit. Something like this helps in suspension of disbelief, the code itself is being a referee to the communication. Without rules, it would just be a MUSH. More complicated command sets doesn't seem to be much of a problem to most players, since Armageddon already has the most complicated emoting system in the world

1. More complication = fewer newbs that are going to be willing to spend the time to learn the system.
2. IMO the code is to facilitate role-play, not the other way around.

[Krath]

I agree with Smuz's original idea. Implement mumble. There are no valid arguments why it should not be added.
Stop worrying about Newbies and let the helpers deal with it.

[brytta.leofa]

1. More complication = fewer newbs that are going to be willing to spend the time to learn the system.
2. IMO the code is to facilitate role-play, not the other way around.

1.  Removing the coded prohibition against whispering to yourself is a simplification, not a complication.
2.  Code that removes from the player the burden of determining, for instance, what your character did and didn't overhear is one of Armageddon's key strengths, and a great boon to immersive roleplay.

[X-D]

1.  Removing the coded prohibition against whispering to yourself is a simplification, not a complication.
2.  Code that removes from the player the burden of determining, for instance, what your character did and didn't overhear is one of Armageddon's key strengths, and a great boon to immersive roleplay.

Truth.

[deviant storm]

1. More complication = fewer newbs that are going to be willing to spend the time to learn the system.
2. IMO the code is to facilitate role-play, not the other way around.

1.  Removing the coded prohibition against whispering to yourself is a simplification, not a complication.
2.  Code that removes from the player the burden of determining, for instance, what your character did and didn't overhear is one of Armageddon's key strengths, and a great boon to immersive roleplay.

I have to agree. This isn't adding a whole lot of other coding in. This is just making it possible to whisper to yourself...and allows you the opportunity of being overheard by others with good listen skills.

It doesn't complicate anything. Just allows someone to whisper to themselves, and since whisper is already part of the game Smuz' idea makes for more roleplay options.