Feedback on Bio Tool

[Sanvean]

If you don't know what I'm talking about, see http://www.zalanthas.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=27632

[Kennath]

I just read through my chars and realized I only have only two non-human and two magickers. Anyone else get any awesome realizations?

-Ken

[Agent_137]

Anyone else get any awesome realizations?

-Ken

most of my chars were made before bios existed, and thus don't have entries.


i also realize how badly i want to be able to add more entries to each of my old chars.


and how excited i am to be nearing that possibility.

[Mudder]

I have a question. On some of them it has things written out to the left. What is that?

[Manhattan]

1. how are these ordered...certainly not alphabetically or by date...

2. how come there's only a select few pc's on here?

[Belenos]

I have a question. On some of them it has things written out to the left. What is that?

The stuff on the left is your character name.  From looking at the logs something is odd with your account. Ignore the odd entry. I will find out what it is.

[Belenos]

1. how are these ordered...certainly not alphabetically or by date...

2. how come there's only a select few pc's on here?

1.   The ordering is how it parses.  I didn't make any attempt to do any sorting of the entries.  I may later.

2.  You will only see entries from after the time that the biography command was implemented.  Entries before that time do not have the needed XML formatted files.

[Folker]

Doesnt look to be possible to get back to the character index once you've opened one of the bios. Clicking 'back' would 'eventually' get you back to login page.

[Fathi]

Doesnt look to be possible to get back to the character index once you've opened one of the bios. Clicking 'back' would 'eventually' get you back to login page.

Odd. It works fine for me.

[Yokunama]

Doesnt look to be possible to get back to the character index once you've opened one of the bios. Clicking 'back' would 'eventually' get you back to login page.

Odd. It works fine for me.

Works for me too.

[Mood]

Doesnt look to be possible to get back to the character index once you've opened one of the bios. Clicking 'back' would 'eventually' get you back to login page.

Odd. It works fine for me.

Works for me too.

Same.

[LauraMars]

This is really, really kickass.

One thing I'd like to see is some structured ordering of the characters in the list.  For someone with a lot of characters, it is confusing to have everyone you've ever played splashed randomly on the page.  So it would be nice to have some kind of organized system.

Is there some kind of limit as to how many characters can be displayed, or does the tool just grab whomever has been around since the bio tool was introduced?  My earliest characters are not displayed, but I think some characters are on the list who never had the advantage of the bio tool, though I could be wrong.

[edit - woops, the above question was answered earlier in the thread, sorry, please disregard.]

Do you have any plans for making the tool display other things specific to each character?  Keywords, clans, or stats, for instance?

[Ammit]

Doesnt look to be possible to get back to the character index once you've opened one of the bios. Clicking 'back' would 'eventually' get you back to login page.

I had the same problem under Internet Explorer 6.0. Problem doesn't exist under IE 7.0, Firefox 2.0 or Safari 3.0 for Windows.

If your having the problem under IE 6.0 I'd recommend upgrading or downloading an alternate browser. Or if you're at work, avoiding using the tool

Alternatively a work around I discovered is to hit back once, then refresh.

[Yang]

I justed used this tool to recover something that I thought I had lost for good, which turned out to be in one of the bios. Aside from satiating my curiosity, it actually turned out to be very useful...I can't thank the staff enough for this tool.

[Cuusardo]

When I'm looking at a bio and I hit the back button to get back to the list of my PCs, it goes back to that bio I was reading, and then when I hit it again, it goes back to the login.  Also, all of my characters aren't listed there.

Other than that, it's great.

[a strange shadow]

My only complaint is that I wish I'd taken more time to write bios for my old favorite character.

The ones I could read (and thought I'd lost) were such a welcome blast from the past.

[Sanvean]

Cuusardo:

2. You will only see entries from after the time that the biography command was implemented. Entries before that time do not have the needed XML formatted files.

Is that possibly why you're not seeing all of them?

[Belenos]

I addressed a couple of concerns.  The entries now sort alphabetically, and there are some more navigational links.

[Maso]

I want it in chronological order not alphebetical!!

Or so you can change it?  :oops:

I wish it recorded more information too. Like when the character was created, when they died, how many hours played etc.

[Bebop]

I would like to have the option to put these in chronological order but I LOVE THIS.

[Malifaxis]

Belenos, if I didn't know you were frighteningly well hung, I would offer to bear your children.

This is the Awesome of the Year.

[Belenos]

The people you should be thanking are the folks that wrote the biography command.  Writing a viewer is not all that hard.  Without their work this wouldn't be possible.

[Rhyden]

Fucking awesome.

Well done, all involved in creating this.

[Fnord]

As someone who has gotten into bios with the past few characters, I'm really enjoying the shit out of this. Thanks so much for developing it.

[Aruven]

Yeah this is great stuff, major props.

[Maso]

I like it. Wouldn't it be better under Community Resources though? As it's less a 'helpfile' or 'information' thing?

[Dusky]

Hands down I think this is one of the most awesome coded solutions I've seen for the mud so far.  Great job!

[Belenos]

I like it. Wouldn't it be better under Community Resources though? As it's less a 'helpfile' or 'information' thing?

Yep, but I don't have access to that machine.   Things will change when Arm 2.0 rolls out anyway.

[Maso]

I look forward to it!

[slipshod]

Belenos,

You post-dated your update note on that page by a month.  It says it was last updated on September 17, 2007.

[Lizzie]

Unfortunately, like the request tool, I can't use this new bio tool either. A combination of things on my end prevents it from working for me.

I'm glad it's working out for everyone else though, and it sounds like a really excellent addition.

[jhunter]

So cool.

Fucking sweet.

[Seeker]

Hands down, deluxe.

Props and thanks.


Seeker

[Cuusardo]

Cuusardo:

2. You will only see entries from after the time that the biography command was implemented. Entries before that time do not have the needed XML formatted files.

Is that possibly why you're not seeing all of them?

Hmm, probably.  I couldn't remember when the bio command went in, so I thought I should've had more characters listed there.

[Mudder]

Cuusardo:

2. You will only see entries from after the time that the biography command was implemented. Entries before that time do not have the needed XML formatted files.

Is that possibly why you're not seeing all of them?

Hmm, probably.  I couldn't remember when the bio command went in, so I thought I should've had more characters listed there.

My very first pc had it, and that was around June or July of 2005, give a month or two, cause I remember when it was implemented so it wasn't before my first pc.

[Belenos]

Unfortunately, like the request tool, I can't use this new bio tool either. A combination of things on my end prevents it from working for me.

Feel free to contact me on this if you want.  There is a bit of common code between the request tool and the biography viewer.  My initial suspicion is that you don't have cookies enabled.  Without being able to store a session ID cookie, the system will never know you've logged in.

[Lizzie]

Unfortunately, like the request tool, I can't use this new bio tool either. A combination of things on my end prevents it from working for me.

Feel free to contact me on this if you want.  There is a bit of common code between the request tool and the biography viewer.  My initial suspicion is that you don't have cookies enabled.  Without being able to store a session ID cookie, the system will never know you've logged in.

It's a combination of things. Mostly it's my browser settings; no third-party cookies. Because I use a proxy to access the web, the proxy site is considered the "first party" and zalanthas.org is considered the "second" party. The request tool is a third party, so no go. I can't allow third-party cookies for security reasons. It really isn't a big deal, because the Armageddon staff has been helpful and understanding in the past and I try not to make many requests that require personal attention.

I appreciate your willingness to take a look, but I assure you it is on my end, and there is nothing I am able to do to change it.

Thanks once again!

L. Stanson

[FightClub]

Hmm needs to check dis out.

[Agent_137]

Lizzie, quit playing from work!!

[mansa]

I don't know if this was answered, but;

Do you have any plans for making the tool display other things specific to each character?  Keywords, clans, or stats, for instance?

Also, can we get the date that the bio entry was added?   I know it shows up when you type 'bio', but can it also show up in the bio viewer page?

Thanks!

[daedroug]

Also when Arm 2 goes up are we still going to have access to this or should we be backing up the3 info right now?

[spawnloser]

From a web-design point of view... is it possible to get 'back' functionality?

[Belenos]

There will be enhancements on the tool over time, within the limits of what is doable.  I would suspect also that we will allow you access to your Arm 1.0 characters when 2.0 goes live, although none of that has been discussed at all.