Tek

Started by saintpatcho, January 10, 2007, 11:51:46 AM

QuoteHe took no risks, each action, each risk examined many times before he made it, his mother had taught him that, just as she'd taught him how to hate his father.

TEK IS A MOMA'S BOY!!!!!

IM conversation:

MOTHERofTEK:  dood u got nothing on me
Haplesskadian:  Huh?
MOTHERofTEK:  my boy owns
Haplesskadian:  Owns what?  What are you talking about?
MOTHERofTEK:  the werld
Haplesskadian:  Whatever...prove it.
MOTHERofTEK:  u noob...he's guna fry ur brainz
MOTHERofTEK:  commners way is named after my tok
Haplesskadian:  That doesn't prove anything.
MOTHERofTEK:  my boy is tek bitch
Haplesskadian:  Never heard of him.
MOTHERofTEK:  liek the mostest powerful sorc evar
Haplesskadian:  We're talking sorcerers now?  Oh...you like roleplaying then?
MOTHERofTEK:  what a nub be IC u prick
Haplesskadian:  Oh.  I put on my robe and wizard's hat.
MOTHERofTEK:  ur robe is shit
Haplesskadian:  Oh...I put on your SON'S robe and wizard's hat.
TEKSBALLS has signed on.
TEKSBALLS:  WTF noob, wear is my robe
Haplesskadian:  ....
Haplesskadian has signed off.
Quote from: ShalooonshTuluk: More Subtly Hot. If you can't find action in Tuluk, you're from Allanak.
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Personally, I'm a little disappointed. I always liked to think that Arm was above the good vs. evil cliche, but it seems I was expecting too much.
Tek is the conniving, ruthless Caligula-type, and Muk is the selfless martyr and savior of his people. Yuck.
I'd strongly prefer it if they were both conniving and ruthless.
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I like both characters and see them both as 'ruthless' and cunning. The skull thing is awesome by the way. Time to go and try to get some hawt loot from Tek's tower, and get that skull too.

I haven't really seen anything that suggested Muk Utep was either a saviour or selfless.  He most likely had his own reasons to stop the Dragon - if Tuluk fell, Muk Utep could still fall prey to Tektolnes if he beat the Dragon.

Besides, if Muk Utep was so selfless, Tuluk and its Templarate would probably look vastky different.  And don't forget that Tektolnes is running a city, too, and allows people to live there.  If given a choice between living in Tuluk or in Allanak, I would choose Allanak in a heartbeat.  Tuluk is easier to live in, but getting killed in there is also far easier.
In Allanak, all you have to do is respect your superiors, keep an open eye and have some luck, and plan your actions wisely.  Tuluk is more complicated, and not in a good way.


I was hoping to find out more about Tektolnes, though.  Heh, I always thought it was the father that killed his son and then pretended it was the other way around.
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Quote from: "FiveDisgruntledMonkeysWit"Personally, I'm a little disappointed. I always liked to think that Arm was above the good vs. evil cliche, but it seems I was expecting too much.
Tek is the conniving, ruthless Caligula-type, and Muk is the selfless martyr and savior of his people. Yuck.
I'd strongly prefer it if they were both conniving and ruthless.

I've got to agree.  I'm glad that we're getting the opportunity to read this stories and I appreciate them, but the more of them I read the more I'm glad that this game is coming to an end.
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In a more serious vein, I think Tek acts exactly like he should--at that point, he was a young, petulant kid barely out of his teens.  I know Zalanthans are supposed to be considered adults earlier on, but in the case of Sorcerer-Kings that live for hundreds if not thousands of years, twenty years is barely any time at all.  Perhaps his attitude has mellowed over the years.  I don't really know.  That's just my take on it, which may be wrong, but it doesn't look like Muk necessarily had the same sort of things going for him as far as having things handed to him on a metal platter.
Quote from: ShalooonshTuluk: More Subtly Hot. If you can't find action in Tuluk, you're from Allanak.
Quote from: Southie"In His Radiance" -> I am a traitor / I've been playing too much in Tuluk recently.

Don't critiscize the people writing the stories and how they portray Tek and Muk, guys. We all KNEW Tek was an evil badass, and I'm glad he stayed true to character. I'd have been more depressed if there was a revelation that Tektolnes was actually a really nice guy, just deeply misunderstood.

I also don't see where this Muk Utep is a selfless savior thing comes from... he conquered all the other tribes around him and built a city every bit as based on oppression and control as Allanak is. The average common person in Allanak and Tuluk is just as screwed either place and probably unhappy about it, but they have no better alternatives.
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Quote from: "Jherlen"Don't critiscize the people writing the stories and how they portray Tek and Muk, guys. We all KNEW Tek was an evil badass, and I'm glad he stayed true to character. I'd have been more depressed if there was a revelation that Tektolnes was actually a really nice guy, just deeply misunderstood.

I also don't see where this Muk Utep is a selfless savior thing comes from... he conquered all the other tribes around him and built a city every bit as based on oppression and control as Allanak is. The average common person in Allanak and Tuluk is just as screwed either place and probably unhappy about it, but they have no better alternatives.

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You could always disguise yourself as a desert elf from a random anonymous tribe.

edit: oh uh. I think I missed the entire point of this topic.

Also.. you still don't have the full story.  Be patient.
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I always thought Muk was supposed to be a more benevolent ruler.
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Quote from: "daedroug"I always thought Muk was supposed to be a more benevolent ruler.

He's not.  His grip on his city is much tighter than what Tektolnes has built.

One thing you have to remember about young Tek is that he's only 22.  That's an awfully tender age for a sorceror king.   He's got issues with his father and mother to work out, and there's over a thousand years to do it.
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Waving a hammer, the irate, seething crafter says, in rage-accented sirihish :
"Be impressed.  Now!"

*points out Muk's callous use of life, ala half of Tuluk and a particular Jihaen templar*

He's not not nicer, people are just silly enough to trust him, so it makes his job easier.
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Quote from: "Halaster"Also.. you still don't have the full story.  Be patient.

That was my train of thought.
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Love the story so far! Me and Tek would get along IRL.. I'm soooo ruthless IRL. *snicker*  :twisted:
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An interesting insight into what goes behind the scenes. It was very revealing.. it shows that Tek was, from the start, very much a human at heart. It takes a lot to make a tyrranic ruler like him-- tyrant as in a king that deposed another, and this shows it. Think about it. No matter how much power you wield.. how much your powers can give you.. you still have a heart.

Over the centuries, that heart may numb over, but you're still human. When does a Sorcerer-King stop being human? I don't know. It's got to be developed from there. No one becomes the king of darkness and decay overnight unless they're barking more than they bite.
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Quote from: "Tisiphone"*points out Muk's callous use of life, ala half of Tuluk and a particular Jihaen templar*

He's not not nicer, people are just silly enough to trust him, so it makes his job easier.

my impression is that he takes the path of least resistance. Callous use of life? Or did he just pick the best cause of action? He can see into the future you know,

Meh, the stories feel like they are being written as we go along not things that were set in stone from the beginning of the game, makes it feel wishy washy.  I dunno.

Quote from: "Bebop"Meh, the stories feel like they are being written as we go along not things that were set in stone from the beginning of the game, makes it feel wishy washy.  I dunno.

Feel free to submit your own version based on your first hand knowledge of the events being described.  Chances are most of these events were never  more than as a notch in a timeline to provide a working history.  I appreciate the time and effort it would take to discuss and author these snippets based on a collection of doscumentation and/or random memories that predate most of the Imms.

This sort of "blah" negativity is the kind of thing that makes creative people trying to do something neat for the playerbase wonder why they go through the motions.

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Bebop, it may feel that way to you, but from what I know...the history that these stories are based on IS old.  The history that we don't get to see is out there, set in stone, I can assure you.

I would write a story and/or suggest you do the same, except that the staff knows the history better and have said that only they will be writing these stories.
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Quote from: "Bebop"Meh, the stories feel like they are being written as we go along not things that were set in stone from the beginning of the game, makes it feel wishy washy.  I dunno.

Your assumption is incorrect.  We are careful to adhere to the documentation, and established history.  While some creative license is being used in the telling of each story, the basic facts presented are what has happened.   I still remember the day when us, the newbie staff, gathered around Halaster to learn the true history of Zalanthas.  It's good that you will learn much of what we learned that day.
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Quote from: "Belenos"I still remember the day when us, the newbie staff, gathered around Halaster to learn the true history of Zalanthas.

What a weird image.
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I dunno, Laura, I think it's adorable. ;) :P
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