Tek

Started by saintpatcho, January 10, 2007, 11:51:46 AM

Personally, I got a serious flash of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in my head.

But on topic: Awesome stories.

And also, just because Muk is wrapped in a rhetoric of "good guy savior / uniter of the tribes" (from the perspective of those who are most brainwashed, his servants / templars)...that doesn't actually make him a good guy. An apparently benevolent dictator is still a dictator. That is part of what makes Tuluk so wonderful: All the "we're so clean and pure and awesome rah rah rah!" laid down right on top of "and if you step out of line you're totally fucked!" It's the kind of dissonance I love, the evil that appears to be good.
Quote from: Vanth on February 13, 2008, 05:27:50 PM
I'm gonna go all Gimfalisette on you guys and lay down some numbers.

Quote from: "LoD"
Quote from: "Bebop"Meh, the stories feel like they are being written as we go along not things that were set in stone from the beginning of the game, makes it feel wishy washy.  I dunno.

Feel free to submit your own version based on your first hand knowledge of the events being described.  Chances are most of these events were never  more than as a notch in a timeline to provide a working history.  I appreciate the time and effort it would take to discuss and author these snippets based on a collection of doscumentation and/or random memories that predate most of the Imms.

This sort of "blah" negativity is the kind of thing that makes creative people trying to do something neat for the playerbase wonder why they go through the motions.

-LoD

Amen LoD, I can't wait for the next stories and I think the staff is doing an amazing job.. sounds like they have a full plate right now.
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Quote from: "HoD"my impression is that he takes the path of least resistance. Callous use of life? Or did he just pick the best cause of action? He can see into the future you know,

Best for whom?

I'm rather certain he didn't take the most beneficial for the greatest majority of people.
There is no general doctrine which is not capable of eating out our morality if unchecked by the deep-seated habit of direct fellow-feeling with individual fellow-men. -George Eliot

I don't see any indication that Muk Utep is belevolent to anyone outside of his own circle. He's a monster of a man that slaughtered and subjugated the native people of a region--whole tribes-- under his heel, and forged a nation. He battled with the Dragon, sure, but he took out a whole quarter of his city in the process.

Tektolnes basically did the same thing, didn't he? He conquered people, and built a nation on top of that. PLUS he took down Luir Dragonsthrall and Valasurus. Could be be construed as a kind of hero? Sure. Same way that Muk Utep could be, I guess. But it all depends on perspective. They're all larger-than-life figures that are, without a doubt, engrossed in their own motives.
"The most important thing is to find out what is the most important thing." -- Shunryu Suzuki

Okay, hold on, so since Muk didn't kill his father (if he had one), in order to gain power he's a savior? Like mentioned before, he did defeat all the tribes in his attempt to unify them. I actually think it would be creepy if I went up to talk to somebody, and before I said a sentence they finished it for me. (Plus I'm sure we kill people like that IG)

And, to add, Tuluk is not a -nice- place, even if you compare it to allanak. I can manage to survive long enough in both cities but I love how there is always the image that Allanak is hardcore and the north is not. (Even after Tuluk pwns in copper wars :P)

I will have to read more of the story on both of them, but also as stated before it just seems like Muk has been taking the safest roads he can. But from experience please don't get the idea Muk is a selfless savior, or the fact that tuluk is "nice".
And when they say that I am dead and gone, it won't be further from the truth..."

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And, to add, Tuluk is not a -nice- place, even if you compare it to allanak. I can manage to survive long enough in both cities but I love how there is always the image that Allanak is hardcore and the north is not. (Even after Tuluk pwns in copper wars :P)

Maybe it's just been pure dumb luck, but I've always had an easy time in the north.

I've been beaten, tortured, mutilated, immolated, beheaded, impaled, punctured, bled, gutted, and eviscerated in Allanak.

I've been drunk in Tuluk.

I've spread my characters pretty evenly all over the known, and I've always had it rougher in the south.


Manonfire, trust me, the north doesn't play. Their methods are different, but yeah, same deal. I've had -atleast- one character scourged there.  :wink:
And when they say that I am dead and gone, it won't be further from the truth..."

Hmm.

I'll have to come back up one of these days, see if I can't get the hell beat out of my character.

Quote from: "manonfire"Hmm.

I'll have to come back up one of these days, see if I can't get the hell beat out of my character.

It's really, really not hard to do. Disappearances are yummy.
Quote from: Vanth on February 13, 2008, 05:27:50 PM
I'm gonna go all Gimfalisette on you guys and lay down some numbers.

It's quite simple really: Tuluk is so ridiculously subtle, you don't even notice your own characters being castrated and fed to the hungry beaten slaves.
your mother is an elf.

Quote from: "Bebop"Meh, the stories feel like they are being written as we go along not things that were set in stone from the beginning of the game, makes it feel wishy washy.  I dunno.

Yes... because I'm sure the staff is waiting until the END of the game to make up all the history.  :roll:
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I personally think it's Superman gone evil and he's plotting to kill everyone by using the two strongest known forces in the world to wipe out the magickers seeing as how everyone knows that Superman is weak to magick.

The best story was Dragonthrall so far.  So much conflict, the man was crazy, miserable, wretched, torn apart, pathetic.

Who the hell was that woman in that story?  It looked like she popped out on the wrong planet.
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What woman?

[Edit: nevermind. I see.]
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Quote from: Lizzie on February 10, 2016, 09:37:57 PM
You know I think if James simply retitled his thread "Cheese" and apologized for his first post being off-topic, all problems would be solved.