Whoa!

[jhunter]

I can't wait for halflings to open again. Most fun I've had with a pc, they're so different from -anything- else.

I'd love to give gith a try. I hope they're one of the ones being considered.

[Delirium]

I would love to play a gith.

ALL YOUR BYN ARE BELONG TO ME

[razorback]

I would love to play a gith.

ALL YOUR BYN ARE BELONG TO ME

Ok, that's it, I'm sticking to the city types.   :shock:

Gith seems like it would be an awesome clan to try, or halflings too, for that matter. Still...I vote for opening the tregil clan. *nod*

[cyberpatrol_735]

I would love to play a gith.

ALL YOUR BYN ARE BELONG TO ME

Isn't that a cheat from warcraft 3?

ALL YOUR BASE BELONG TO US

??

Anyway, halflings -- Tight, probably won't play one because I'm more into politics than isolation and eating people.

Closing noble houses: Depends on the house.

Borsail should stay open, definently, with naiona running it? Heck yeah, borsail is awesome, northern houses? Not quite sure.
Southern houses? Keep them ;-)

But at any rate, awesome things are going on at armageddon lately..

[Xygax]

I would love to play a gith.

ALL YOUR BYN ARE BELONG TO ME

Isn't that a cheat from warcraft 3?

ALL YOUR BASE BELONG TO US

In the interests of historical accuracy:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_your_base_are_belong_to_us

[bloodfromstone]

Noooo, not more iso clans. *weeps*

[Desertman]

I would love to see gith re-opened, I have actually had a pc tell me recently..."There are no gith in the desert"...this would change thier minds real quick about the realism of dangers in Zalanthas.

[flurry]

I'm curious what karma level halflings (and gith?) will be set at.  Or if they'd only be special ap.

[mansa]

I suspect Gith will be at 5 karma, the same as lightning and shadow elementalist, and Halflings will be at 6 karma, the same as void elementalist.

[Cuusardo]

I'm curious what karma level halflings (and gith?) will be set at.  Or if they'd only be special ap.

I doubt they'll be given a karma level.  Halflings AFAIK were special app only the last time they were opened.

[jhunter]

I'm curious what karma level halflings (and gith?) will be set at.  Or if they'd only be special ap.

I doubt they'll be given a karma level.  Halflings AFAIK were special app only the last time they were opened.

That was for a test run Cuusardo. I'd think that if they are opening them up on a more permanent basis it would be special app at first and then probably a karma option.
*shrug*

[mattrious]

Their return grows near. Halflings and Gith? Pssh. Feeding day and night their food supply is slowly dwindling. They continue to grow in number and size as the Queen continues to lay her eggs. It's only a matter of time..before the clutch returns.

- Mantis -

They've laid dormant for far too long in their secluded nest within the far reaches of the known world. I think it's time for them to leave another mark on the delicate flower that we know as Zalanthas.

:twisted:

- Matt.

[Larrath]

My bet is 2 karma for Gith (like Rukkian/Vivaduan) and 3 karma for Halflings (like Half-Giants).  Making them a very high-karma Race would mean their population would be pretty damn thin.

[SpyGuy]

My personal bet is any iso-clan will be special app only with a moderately limited playerbase.  But then again I'm thinking only halflings will be reopened and involved in some sort of major plotline (hopefully making them work with desert elf tribes or something).

Then the two noble houses in the North will be closed (makes no sense to remove one from each city, that'd just stifle noble RP more) and House Fale would be reopened.  That way Allanak has four bickering Houses to choose from.

As for gith vs mantis...I'd do with whichever one would realistically have more involvement with the playerbase.  If the gith were active and could have limited interaction with the world other than raiding (in Red Storm, through the Red Fangs, etc.) that'd be alright.  If the mantis had something better to do than just sit in their valley all day (like an all out war on desert elves) then I'd be down with that too.

[EvilRoeSlade]

Damn I hope they decide to close two noble houses.

If one of those houses was Borsail, I would be very sad, but that would be balanced by my sheer delight at the fact that any noble house besides Borsail is also going to be closed.

[mansa]

I hope Kurac closes.

*hates Kurac*

Or Gypsys

*hates Gypsys*

Or Lesbians

*hates Lesbians*

[LoD]

The fatal flaw of the PC gith, mantis and halfling of yesteryear had been a lack of common culture and opportunity for non-combative interaction.

Halflings, gith or mantis meeting up with any other PC race usually resulted in trouble of some kind because the races were so different culturally that there wasn't room enough for peace.  No peace, delicate or otherwise, means that these characters, no matter how well played or conceived, would eventually devolve into PK encounters with the rest of the world.

If each of these civilizations were to develop the potential to interact peacefully with even a portion of the PC playerbase, then I think they could become a staple part of the gameworld again.  Until that time, however, it's just a passing fancy until they meet up with a non-gith, non-halfling, non-mantis.

-LoD

[jmordetsky]

The fatal flaw of the PC gith, mantis and halfling of yesteryear had been a lack of common culture and opportunity for non-combative interaction.

Halflings, gith or mantis meeting up with any other PC race usually resulted in trouble of some kind because the races were so different culturally that there wasn't room enough for peace.  No peace, delicate or otherwise, means that these characters, no matter how well played or conceived, would eventually devolve into PK encounters with the rest of the world.

If each of these civilizations were to develop the potential to interact peacefully with even a portion of the PC playerbase, then I think they could become a staple part of the gameworld again.  Until that time, however, it's just a passing fancy until they meet up with a non-gith, non-halfling, non-mantis.

-LoD

I don't think it would crumble to that right away. Plots might be more interesting with some direct D-Elf vs Gith, AoD vs Gith items. I could see a some creative Imm collaboration making some coolness here. For example setting up new oasis water supply somewhere and and having both Allanak and a large Gith tribe struggle to control it.

Might be what we're all missing. Some open conflict rather then hidden stuff.

[Anonymous]

The fatal flaw of the PC gith, mantis and halfling of yesteryear had been a lack of common culture and opportunity for non-combative interaction.

Halflings, gith or mantis meeting up with any other PC race usually resulted in trouble of some kind because the races were so different culturally that there wasn't room enough for peace.

It doesn't help that these three races have been labeled by Tektolnes an
"Axis of Elementalism" and he has accused them of trading in Weapons of
Magickal Destruction.  He's already started petitioning the United Northlands
for the authority to make sure they don't threaten the culture, and economy,
of Known World.

Seriously, how do you expect them to react?

[Jherlen]

I don't think it would crumble to that right away. Plots might be more interesting with some direct D-Elf vs Gith, AoD vs Gith items. I could see a some creative Imm collaboration making some coolness here. For example setting up new oasis water supply somewhere and and having both Allanak and a large Gith tribe struggle to control it.

Might be what we're all missing. Some open conflict rather then hidden stuff.

By "struggle to control it", you're referring to basically exactly what LoD said things would crumble to - violence. Unless you think there's some possibility of Allanak and Large PC Gith Tribe sitting down and negotiating about said oasis and working out ways to share it. I really don't see that happening. It's far more likely you would just have bands of militia/templars and bands of gith running around said oasis raiding and PKing each other.

I'm with what LoD said. If you gave halflings/gith/mantis cultures the reasons to coexist with the rest of the world WITHOUT resorting to "I want to kill/eat you", I think they could add something interesting to plots and the gameworld. Otherwise, I don't think there is potential for anything besides a bunch of fighting.

[Cale_Knight]

If (when) halfings come in, it'll pretty much kill any desire I ever had to play a northern character, because I'd lay money down that they eventually get bored and start raiding.

Not my cup of spiced tea.

[Ktavialt]

If you gave halflings/gith/mantis cultures the reasons to coexist with the rest of the world WITHOUT resorting to "I want to kill/eat you", I think they could add something interesting to plots and the gameworld. Otherwise, I don't think there is potential for anything besides a bunch of fighting.

While yes, the RP between the races is pretty slim to none, I do like the
added element of danger of having PC gith and PC halflings around. It's
just crazy kool.

- Ktavialt

[Angela Christine]

If (when) halfings come in, it'll pretty much kill any desire I ever had to play a northern character, because I'd lay money down that they eventually get bored and start raiding.

What, you don't think being a canibalistic hippy would be exciting?    I am curious about how they will be integrated, should be interesting.

[Yokunama]

If (when) halfings come in, it'll pretty much kill any desire I ever had to play a northern character, because I'd lay money down that they eventually get bored and start raiding.

What, you don't think being a canibalistic hippy would be exciting?    I am curious about how they will be integrated, should be interesting.

Do halflings smoke spice?

[Intrepid]

There is one clan I'm personally hoping for the return of, but I'm not sure
it's a publically known clan.  We lost it during consolidation, and I was
never convinced that it had to remain entirely iso myself.  Those of you
from way back probably know which clan I'm referring to, especially if
you were in it, and probably can tell exactly why it would be nice to have
them back.

Yes, I know it's cryptic.  But I'd rather not get in trouble for letting the
quirri out of the bag when said clan is not meant to be known by the
general populace.