Why don't D-elves get an accent?

[ShaLeah]

I like the general idea of what ShaLeah suggests, but think it could run into some pretty ridiculous settings:

The tall and obese figure wearing a dusty, bulging hooded desert-camouflaged greatcloak and a bloodied, mottled purple sandcloth veil says to you, in indiscernably-accented, northern-sirihish:
"No."

You forgot to ass the say-mote to make it even more ridiculous.

I agree that it can make for pretty long says and talks, however... seeing as we're a detail oriented world, I think we'd eventually get used to it.  I don't pay attention to cloaks and veils anymore even though at first I found them a bit jarring. I think of all the possibilities of having an accent code that detailed and I giggle like a school girl because the realism would be heightened for -me-.  Anytime I see a northern-accented anything I "hear" it differently than if I was listening to a southern-accented thing. I want more realism, not less.  :wink:

[Agent_137]

I stand firmly apathetic on this issue.

[Sanvean]

As currently implemented, accents are dependent on your starting location and are set at the time you point in the Hall in Kings.  If you start in Tuluk, you will have a northern accent, regardless of race.  If you start in the south, you will have a southern accent, regardless of race.

I would be glad to add one for the DE outpost, but would like something a little more elegant than "an allundean accent".  Suggestions are welcome.

[Anarchy]

As currently implemented, accents are dependent on your starting location and are set at the time you point in the Hall in Kings.  If you start in Tuluk, you will have a northern accent, regardless of race.  If you start in the south, you will have a southern accent, regardless of race.

I would be glad to add one for the DE outpost, but would like something a little more elegant than "an allundean accent".  Suggestions are welcome.

An elvish-tribal accent?

[mansa]

I would be glad to add one for the DE outpost, but would like something a little more elegant than "an allundean accent".  Suggestions are welcome.

An elvish-tribal accent?

See...  in most High Fantasy games, all elves are noble, and they speak a language called 'Elvish'.  That word is not a good word to use.  And 'tribal' seems a bit...iffy.  Who has other ideas for english words they've found in the thesaurus?

[Xerokine]

I would be glad to add one for the DE outpost, but would like something a little more elegant than "an allundean accent".  Suggestions are welcome.

An elvish-tribal accent?

See...  in most High Fantasy games, all elves are noble, and they speak a language called 'Elvish'.  That word is not a good word to use.  And 'tribal' seems a bit...iffy.  Who has other ideas for english words they've found in the thesaurus?

A more elegant elvish-tribal accent?

[Anarchy]

Yeah. I know. I was only half serious.

But since most d-elves are from a tribe. What is wrong with just having a tribal accent? Its diffrent enough so most people know its not a northern or southern accent, and vague enough so people cant be certain of where the accent comes from.

[Delirium]

Yeah. I know. I was only half serious.

But since most d-elves are from a tribe. What is wrong with just having a tribal accent? Its diffrent enough so most people know its not a northern or southern accent, and vague enough so people cant be certain of where the accent comes from.

I suspect because native bendune speakers have a 'tribal' accent.

Though I don't see any major reason why native allundean speakers can't have a tribal accent as well. I imagine both languages as sounding very fluid and almost sibilant, with bendune a little more run-together and allundean a little more on the sharper side. Does that make any sense whatsoever?

[Anarchy]

I suspect because native bendune speakers have a 'tribal' accent.
Though I don't see any major reason why native allundean speakers can't have a tribal accent as well. I imagine both languages as sounding very fluid and almost sibilant, with bendune a little more run-together and allundean a little more on the sharper side. Does that make any sense whatsoever?

I understand where your coming from, but having a tribal accent for those who speak bendune...is pretty much pointless, because in the bigger picture it makes little diffrence. A tribal accent is a tribal accent. Bendune should have nothing to do with it. Elves, Dwarves, humans, muls and half-elves ALL get southern accents if they pick allanak as their start location - just like they would get northern accents if they picked Tuluk. And they all speak a diffrent lanauage. So, a tribal accent of a elf, dwarf, human, mul or half-elf wouldn't be much of a diffrence, would it? a common person can tell that they arn't from the cities, so its given a broad label as tribal - just like red stormers have southern accents, and luirs folk have northern accents...

Mmm, i rambled on there, im sorry, just trying to explain myself. Hope i did.

[mansa]

After careful thought.  Why not?  I'm agreeing that the 'desert elf outpost' as a starting location should give you the 'tribal' accent.

[Delirium]

Right.. the accent has been (from what I noticed so far) given out as 'BenduneAccent', which suggests that it was originally meant only for native bendune speakers. BUT, I think it could easily be more broadly applied to any tribal - whether elvish or human - that does not originate from a city, Luir's, or 'Storm.

So, to sum up - yeah, I say go ahead and give d-elves that start in the Blackwing Post the tribal accent.

[path]

Harshly accented?
Rhythmically accented?
Savagely accented (I liked it.)

An idea and two.

[Angela Christine]

I understand where your coming from, but having a tribal accent for those who speak bendune...is pretty much pointless, because in the bigger picture it makes little diffrence. A tribal accent is a tribal accent. Bendune should have nothing to do with it.

Anyali, who are human tribals, do not have a "tribal" accent.  They have a special Anyali-only accent.  Tribals don't all sound the same.


For elves starting in the desert elf outpost, I suggest a "tablelands" accent. Most of the delves starting there are from the tablelands, and the few random delves whose virtual tribes are elsewhere can wish up to have the appropritate northern or southern accent added.



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[Malifaxis]

I always pictured allundean as being a pretty rapid fire language... them speedy elves being all hell bent for quickness and efficiency.

rapidly-accented?

Maybe it's just me, but I can see an elf trying to speak any language faster than normal, just because it also helps confuse the target/buyer as well.

[Twilight]

From the help files, Bendune and Allundean are related languages, or at least bear some resemblence to one another.  Given that, could a sirihish speaker even differentiate the difference between the accents?  Just how close are they?

[Anarchy]

I understand where your coming from, but having a tribal accent for those who speak bendune...is pretty much pointless, because in the bigger picture it makes little diffrence. A tribal accent is a tribal accent. Bendune should have nothing to do with it.

Anyali, who are human tribals, do not have a "tribal" accent.  They have a special Anyali-only accent.  Tribals don't all sound the same.

Yeah. Your right that all tribals dont sound the sound, however, the Anyali are big enough, and known enough to have their own distinct accent. We are just talking about D-elves who point to the D-elf outpost, not other starting locations. I would expect the SLK to have a diffrent accent, and the ATV also.

[moreweeds]

A guttural accent?
Just seems right to me.

[Delirium]

A guttural accent?
Just seems right to me.

Nah. Mirukkim is gutteral, maybe. But not allundean..

[Candi]

A boorish and somewhat provencal accent with a gutteral tone?
J/K  
I like the idea of something simple, like Elven or Elven Tribal.  Maybe an Uncultured accent?  Dune Accent?  Or something like a wild accent?  Just a stream of consciousness.

[Delirium]

Ooh.. dune-accented.

I kinda like that one.. probably wouldn't work too well, but I like it anyway.

[drasik]

just my stupidty here but how about:

a harsh yet flowing accent (for delves)

[Xamminy]

Why not have no accent?

Desert elves go everywhere.  They meet everyone.  Why not pick up a little bit of everything?

[Agent_137]

i thought they stayed in their territory.

[Cenghiz]

No... no d-elves I know of do stay in a territory.. They wander for many reasons, but first; because they can :p

[Xamminy]

Okay, so maybe they don't go everywhere, but they go to a decent amount of places and meet anyone else that shows up there.