Fight the Lag! - with metrics

[Nyr]

Fight lag & crashes with metrics.

Fortunately, the game has not crashed.  There was either a reboot or a crash 4 days ago.

[Celest]

4:30 EST and I'm getting a ton of lag.

[My 2 sids]

4:30 EST and I'm getting a ton of lag.

Same

[lussien]

5.30 GMT+8/+16

Right noooowww.

[Celest]

I've noticed that stamina and HPS don't regen during lag - but time SEEMS to continue on. Does thirst continue as normal while the lag goes on?

[Yasbusta]

Perhaps people are going to get annoyed, but there are two lags going on, system lag and other lag. The system lag is what stalls everything in game. Game time is based on the machine time so it advances when the system time does, creating hikkups. During these hickups you will not regen stamina stun, but also wont loose it, but time moves normally. The other lag thats going on, well I'm sure you can all see where that is happening already,

[My 2 sids]

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[My 2 sids]

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Seriously though, are we seeing any kind of diagnostic pattern here?

[Old Kank]

Perhaps people are going to get annoyed, but there are two lags going on, system lag and other lag. The system lag is what stalls everything in game. Game time is based on the machine time so it advances when the system time does, creating hikkups. During these hickups you will not regen stamina stun, but also wont loose it, but time moves normally. The other lag thats going on, well I'm sure you can all see where that is happening already,

During the system lag we were having last week, I checked and game time was running pretty close to normal (~10 minutes per ZT hour), but regeneration seemed really slow.  It's possible that was just lag anxiety affecting my perception, but at one point it took close to a RL hour for my character to regen their hp, and that seems excessively slow.  Hard to really judge a consistent regen rate, though.

[Celest]

Perhaps people are going to get annoyed, but there are two lags going on, system lag and other lag. The system lag is what stalls everything in game. Game time is based on the machine time so it advances when the system time does, creating hikkups. During these hickups you will not regen stamina stun, but also wont loose it, but time moves normally. The other lag thats going on, well I'm sure you can all see where that is happening already,

I sort of figured, but that still doesn't answer whether thirst depletes, because I don't know if it's tied to the time mechanism (where every time the hour passes, I lose X thirst) or if it's tied to the system which is lagging. I ask because if it's the former, then you could basically get "trapped" in the lag outside and potentially dehydrate yourself to death (or strong impairment) without really being able to do much about it.

If you have a lag that lasts, basically, from Late Morning to High Sun, and then another that lasts between High Sun to Early Afternoon, then you've basically stood in the desert for two hours without drinking. You can see how this could quickly become a problem if thirst is tied to time, instead of the same system as health/stamina/movement, especially because you can get locked out of some areas at dusk.

As it is now I'm almost positive that the system (health/stamina/stun) regeneration is lagged with the rest of things, as is combat, but I still have concerns about thirst.

[Potaje]

Yea, whats up with the sudden return of Lagzilla.

Internet Tokyo watch out.




I got it, Ginka's new system has constipated itself after eating to many brainz.

ExLax for your moments of unbearable Lag:

[Yasbusta]

Perhaps people are going to get annoyed, but there are two lags going on, system lag and other lag. The system lag is what stalls everything in game. Game time is based on the machine time so it advances when the system time does, creating hikkups. During these hickups you will not regen stamina stun, but also wont loose it, but time moves normally. The other lag thats going on, well I'm sure you can all see where that is happening already,

I sort of figured, but that still doesn't answer whether thirst depletes, because I don't know if it's tied to the time mechanism (where every time the hour passes, I lose X thirst) or if it's tied to the system which is lagging. I ask because if it's the former, then you could basically get "trapped" in the lag outside and potentially dehydrate yourself to death (or strong impairment) without really being able to do much about it.

If you have a lag that lasts, basically, from Late Morning to High Sun, and then another that lasts between High Sun to Early Afternoon, then you've basically stood in the desert for two hours without drinking. You can see how this could quickly become a problem if thirst is tied to time, instead of the same system as health/stamina/movement, especially because you can get locked out of some areas at dusk.

As it is now I'm almost positive that the system (health/stamina/stun) regeneration is lagged with the rest of things, as is combat, but I still have concerns about thirst.

Fairly certain that thirst is based on both time and character, an issue you have to watch closely.

[muddy]

In his belly OF LAG, you will find a new definition of pain and suffering, as you are slowly digested over a thousand years.

[Talia]

Code-wise, I believe regeneration/degeneration of anything (hp, thirst, etc) is not tied to time, rather it's semi-random but requires the game's code processor to actually be ticking over. So if the game is lagging and missing ticks, yes, it will affect your regen. That should mean that thirst/hunger go more slowly, as will hp/stun/mana regen.

[lussien]

I'm getting so pissed off at the lag.

[DustMight]

Meh.  Unable to play on a rare day off this month.  Alas.

[Old Kank]

Has the cause of the lag been determined yet?

Seems like it went away completely over the holiday weekend, and now it's back.

[Iiyola]

Yeah, very bad atm

[Celest]

Code-wise, I believe regeneration/degeneration of anything (hp, thirst, etc) is not tied to time, rather it's semi-random but requires the game's code processor to actually be ticking over. So if the game is lagging and missing ticks, yes, it will affect your regen. That should mean that thirst/hunger go more slowly, as will hp/stun/mana regen.

That's really good to know, thank you

Also, it's baaaaaaack! Early Morning was the starting time IG, just like last time.

[Morgenes]

A change has been made server side, please speak up if you notice any more lag.

[brytta.leofa]

Morgenes, please tell me that the main event loop was doing a callback for every dung object.

[Morgenes]

Morgenes, please tell me that the main event loop was doing a callback for every dung object.

No, in this case we don't believe the issue to be due to any changes or issues with Armageddon.  It appears to be (have been hopefully) a server issue with our virtual server.

[Marauder Moe]

Seemed like there was a spot of lag just now, ~6:00-6:02 PM EST.

[Morgenes]

Alright, I went through the log I was keeping and couldn't correlate it, but it was 4 hours ago, so I might have missed it.  I've added a time stamp to the log so hopefully if you can give me a time again when it happens, I'll be able to find it.

[Kismetic]

bilbo laggins, spotted 10:42 PM est