Discuss please, I was just thinking why does it matter that you have to ride them (Other than codewise) to tame them.

I don't really see why not. But then again I know nothing about taming in real life. Maybe you need to be in full control and riding it to tame it. Maybe you don't.


What would be sick is if it was possible to BREED mounts. Tamed from birth.

If there will be taming, why not have a skill for breeding also.  It might give some cool reasons to roleplay a mount seller.

Quote from: Barsook on October 07, 2013, 06:09:12 PM
If there will be taming, why not have a skill for breeding also.  It might give some cool reasons to roleplay a mount seller.

Current professions need more love?

Okay, to me this just seems like another "everyone should be able to climb" debate. As having played several PCs that have the skills to tame wild mounts this is one of the perks you get picking that guild. Sorry but I don't think this should change. Personally I think if you want to tame a mount you should pick a guild that has it as a possibility. Also, how would someone that doesn't even know how to ride an animal and thus doesn't spend any time with them be able to relate to that animal to tame it. Just doesn't seem real life like.

Amos says in Sirihish:
"I've never ridden an inix and know nothing about them.

Amos peers out of the moving wagon and sees a wild inix.

Amos says the to the wagon driver in Sirihish:
"Driver pull this thing over I'm going to go tame that inix over there."

Sounds pretty ludicrous if you ask me.

I voted maybe.

If someone already posses the skill to plausibly tame a mount, I think they should be able to tame a mount.  Currently this is gauged with the ride skill.  I could be wrong, but from the examples given I'm guessing that what's being suggested is that someone with the appropriate skill should be able to tame a mount without having to actually use the "mount" command.  This would allow ranger half-giants and ranger elves with skill with animals to be able to tame tamable mounts that they normally wouldn't be able to because of current restrictions (example: half-giants are restricted by the code from mounting weaker/smaller animals and elves are restricted by racial mores).

Quote from: Molten Heart on October 07, 2013, 07:16:23 PM
I voted maybe.

If someone already posses the skill to plausibly tame a mount, I think they should be able to tame a mount.  Currently this is gauged with the ride skill.  I could be wrong, but from the examples given I'm guessing that what's being suggested is that someone with the appropriate skill should be able to tame a mount without having to actually use the "mount" command.  This would allow ranger half-giants and ranger elves with skill with animals to be able to tame tamable mounts that they normally wouldn't be able to because of current restrictions (example: half-giants are restricted by the code from mounting weaker/smaller animals and elves are restricted by racial mores).

1. Desert elves can cash in any of the dozens of mount tickets they have laying around their camp, no need to tame another one.
2. Half-giants can already carry more than the average erdlu can carry - if he's trying to tame something he is too big to ride, then he really doesn't need to tame anything.

In all honesty taming should be a different skill than ride anyway. You don't ride a dog to tame it. We don't have dogs (we should) buy we do have pet objects. Taming could invoke a different skill and be a sub all of its own, allowing you to take smaller things and convert them into pet objects.

Quote from: The7DeadlyVenomz on October 07, 2013, 07:24:18 PM
In all honesty taming should be a different skill than ride anyway. You don't ride a dog to tame it. We don't have dogs (we should) buy we do have pet objects. Taming could invoke a different skill and be a sub all of its own, allowing you to take smaller things and convert them into pet objects.

There's no beastmaster skill. Currently the ride skill lets you tame ridable beasts.

We have 'toks and I've seen at least one tame 'tok before in game. That required staff to create it though. It was some noble who had it IIRC.

Quote from: Molten Heart on October 07, 2013, 07:16:23 PM
I voted maybe.

If someone already posses the skill to plausibly tame a mount, I think they should be able to tame a mount.  Currently this is gauged with the ride skill.  I could be wrong, but from the examples given I'm guessing that what's being suggested is that someone with the appropriate skill should be able to tame a mount without having to actually use the "mount" command.  This would allow ranger half-giants and ranger elves with skill with animals to be able to tame tamable mounts that they normally wouldn't be able to because of current restrictions (example: half-giants are restricted by the code from mounting weaker/smaller animals and elves are restricted by racial mores).

This is exactly what I meant.

Quote from: shadeoux on October 07, 2013, 08:18:23 PM

Quote from: Molten Heart on October 07, 2013, 07:16:23 PM
I voted maybe.

If someone already posses the skill to plausibly tame a mount, I think they should be able to tame a mount.  Currently this is gauged with the ride skill.  I could be wrong, but from the examples given I'm guessing that what's being suggested is that someone with the appropriate skill should be able to tame a mount without having to actually use the "mount" command.  This would allow ranger half-giants and ranger elves with skill with animals to be able to tame tamable mounts that they normally wouldn't be able to because of current restrictions (example: half-giants are restricted by the code from mounting weaker/smaller animals and elves are restricted by racial mores).

This is exactly what I meant.

I changed my vote to yes.

Awww I want a pet 'tok to hunt with me.

Quote from: janeshephard on October 07, 2013, 07:47:52 PM

Quote from: The7DeadlyVenomz on October 07, 2013, 07:24:18 PM
In all honesty taming should be a different skill than ride anyway. You don't ride a dog to tame it. We don't have dogs (we should) buy we do have pet objects. Taming could invoke a different skill and be a sub all of its own, allowing you to take smaller things and convert them into pet objects.

There's no beastmaster skill. Currently the ride skill lets you tame ridable beasts.

We have 'toks and I've seen at least one tame 'tok before in game. That required staff to create it though. It was some noble who had it IIRC.

I know, I had it. I'm also well aware that there's no beastmastery skill. It was a suggestion, Jane.

I theenk you guys are getting the wrong idea about how taming works. I'm pretty sure the idea is that it looks like this:



Not like this:



Little hard to manage if you can't ride the animal.

Quote from: James de Monet on October 07, 2013, 09:38:41 PM
I theenk you guys are getting the wrong idea about how taming works. I'm pretty sure the idea is that it looks like this:



Not like this:



Little hard to manage if you can't ride the animal.

See that was my point exactly. I was just too lazy to find pics... Maybe I should have.

A half giant -can- tame an ox... it's just the ox doesn't survive the process. 

>subdue ox

Quote from: Qzzrbl on October 07, 2013, 11:33:07 PM
>subdue ox

>pet ox forcefully

Quote from: The7DeadlyVenomz on October 07, 2013, 07:24:18 PM
In all honesty taming should be a different skill than ride anyway. You don't ride a dog to tame it. We don't have dogs (we should) buy we do have pet objects. Taming could invoke a different skill and be a sub all of its own, allowing you to take smaller things and convert them into pet objects.

Gonna just ... highlight the ... parts I said that I guess got missed. I know how things currently work. I support the idea as presented, as well. These were extra thoughts.

Quote from: The7DeadlyVenomz on October 07, 2013, 11:46:52 PM

Quote from: The7DeadlyVenomz on October 07, 2013, 07:24:18 PM
In all honesty taming should be a different skill than ride anyway. You don't ride a dog to tame it. We don't have dogs (we should) buy we do have pet objects. Taming could invoke a different skill and be a sub all of its own, allowing you to take smaller things and convert them into pet objects.

Gonna just ... highlight the ... parts I said that I guess got missed. I know how things currently work. I support the idea as presented, as well. These were extra thoughts.

I can see a certain PC Tribe getting this ability.

Taming should require the ride skill...it should not require the mount command.

Quote from: X-D on October 08, 2013, 01:01:14 AM
Taming should require the ride skill...it should not require the mount command.

This is a good point.

But how would one raise the ride skill without riding?

Quote from: Qzzrbl on October 08, 2013, 01:29:51 AM
But how would one raise the ride skill without riding?

Failing at not-riding taming, maybe?

What he said