Partial derail from the "Current Languishing of Tuluki Nobility" thread found here: http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,32304.0.html (http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,32304.0.html). While reading a few posts on the thread, people were mentioning that having the intimate relationship barrier between castes was a detriment to the role. As a side question of my curiosity, can anyone explain the why and what function the relationship barrier between castes exists? On a more broader perspective though, what role does mud sex play for you and your character? Let's try to keep this umm...mature.
Mudsex or IC romantic relationships?
Ah, romantic relationships. I think there was a thread or couple about mudsex. Just couldn't find the relevant one.
Addressing the issue of romantic relationships whether there is mudsex or fading or just unfulfilled longing is that we try to play real characters. And wanting to be loved is very much a part of the human (and I guess by extension demi-human condition)
Why do I feel that the restriction on tuluki inter-caste relationships should continue? Because I like the cultural restrictions. By making Zalanthas more different from the real world, it also makes it more alive. I like structure, I like the challenge of making the foreign accessible.
QuoteOn a more broader perspective though, what role does mud sex play for you and your character?
On romantic relationships: Unless your character is asexual, s/he will likely be seeking love in some way, shape or form. That's pretty much it, really... it's another facet of your character's personality.
On mudsex: Love usually leads to sex. The RP of sex can either be skipped (fading), roleplayed out, but either way the actual act is probably going to happen, or agreed upon that it happened. I take a "I'll have what you're having" view on consent, and don't mind roleplaying it out as it leads to being able to have a humorous scene, being able to get caught in the act, etc.
Of course, in relations where sex can be taboo or tricky there is having no sex, which leads to a different kind of RP.
Hmm. But is it necessary to have a romantic relationship in order to develop your character? That leads to a more general question being: can you make just as good friends with your own sex as with the opposite? (I guess this extends to the OOC question.)
Quote from: Semper on September 05, 2008, 10:27:21 AM
Hmm. But is it necessary to have a romantic relationship in order to develop your character? That leads to a more general question being: can you make just as good friends with your own sex as with the opposite? (I guess this extends to the OOC question.)
The necessity would depend on the player and the pc. It is more necessary to some than others.
Eh, I don't know why I brought this topic up now that I think of it. It seems to be personal preference in the end.
Quote from: Semper on September 05, 2008, 09:50:59 AM
As a side question of my curiosity, can anyone explain the why and what function the relationship barrier between castes exists?
ICly speaking, the sexual barrier between the Chosen and common castes in Tuluk springs from the time during the Occupation/Rebellion when the commoners hid the noble families from Allanak's forces. The noble families dwindled to near-extinction numbers, a number of them actually dying out; and there was a drive on the part of the families to keep their bloodlines pure, so they disallowed inter-mating.
However, due to the commoners hiding the nobles, a different kind of affectional bond developed between the castes; they became much more friendly and interdependent, and that continues to this day in Tuluk. (The Occupation is still within memory for some citizens.) The nobles need the commoners and the commoners need the nobles, in a real sense, and everyone knows this.
OOCly speaking, the sexual barrier between the castes allows for Tuluk to be distinctively different than Allanak. In Allanak, it is taboo to have an emotional relationship from noble to commoner which has the qualities of regarding the commoner to be a "real person." But in Tuluk, it is very likely that deep emotional bonds will form from both sides of the relationship, over time. A Tuluki noble and commoner could be best friends and confidantes. They just can't have sex; and the understanding that sex is unthinkable is what allows that emotional relationship to be possible.
Also OOCly speaking, I have little doubt that the design is intended to keep nobles from holing themselves up in their estates and mudsexing 24/7. Which, we all must admit, does happen with certain nobles at certain times in Allanak.
For myself, on a personal level with my characters...I almost never have a character who does not have a serious, deeply emotional romantic relationship (or three at once ;) ) as a cornerstone of her life. The only times I've played a character with no lover are when I've designed the background and then the ongoing interactions to actively not take a lover. Partly this may be because I play female characters, and so there are lots of male characters to go around, but partly it's just part of my angle of play...I concentrate on relationships overall. To me, a character with no interesting relationships is not interesting. However, sometimes those relationships are a deep bond with a boss, or a sibling, or a best friend, rather than a lover. Those are all important too and can be amazing for character development and intense scenes.
So yes, my characters have sex. Often a lot of it. Sometimes none, during which they decry the drought.
The question of mudsex itself is irrelevant, since whether it's a fade or it's actually RPed out, it still happened.
Quote from: Semper on September 05, 2008, 10:27:21 AM
Hmm. But is it necessary to have a romantic relationship in order to develop your character? That leads to a more general question being: can you make just as good friends with your own sex as with the opposite? (I guess this extends to the OOC question.)
For me, yes. But it is also necessary for my characters to have a best friend, and some kind of relationship with a superior, and minions to teach, and someone to hate on, and someone to...you get the idea. I find that the whole -range- of emotional entanglements is what's necessary. Just having one relationship doesn't cut it for really getting involved.
Quote from: Gimfalisette on September 05, 2008, 10:35:36 AMBut in Tuluk, it is very likely that deep emotional bonds will form from both sides of the relationship, over time. A Tuluki noble and commoner could be best friends and confidantes. They just can't have sex; and the understanding that sex is unthinkable is what allows that emotional relationship to be possible.
I think this is exactly why I'd play a Tuluki noble if the opportunity were to arise.
Quote from: Semper on September 05, 2008, 10:27:21 AM
Hmm. But is it necessary to have a romantic relationship in order to develop your character? That leads to a more general question being: can you make just as good friends with your own sex as with the opposite? (I guess this extends to the OOC question.)
I think you (and MANY other people) are confusing player-to-player mudsex/mutual masterbation interactive porn for the purpose of making the PLAYER horny or relieving said horniness..
and character-to-character relationships that have nothing to do with whether or not the players behind the characters have any idea at all who each other is.
Can you make just as good friends with your own sex as with the opposite? Can WHO make just as good friends? The player, or the character? In Armageddon, HOMOsexuality, Asexuality, BIsexuality, HETEROsexuality, are all acceptable behaviors. In fact, the newbie document has a whole paragraph dedicated to that. This tells me, that SEXUALITY in general is acceptable. That doesn't mean mudsex is acceptable. Mudsex is the behavior of two (or more) players acting out graphic and explicit sexual activities within the atmosphere of a mud, for the purpose of personal sexual gratification on the part of the player.
Mudsex is NEVER necessary for players to enjoy roleplay in a game that isn't dedicated to mudsex. Armageddon isn't dedicated to mudsex, and therefore mudsex is NEVER necessary in Armageddon.
However, intimacy of sexual AND non-sexual nature is a very big part of what makes people people. It is an innate response to need to have intimate attractions. You don't necessarily have to do anything about the attractions, but you have to know they are possible, and that the staff will support their existence, from a STRICTLY IN-CHARACTER perspective.
Player-to-player typing out with one hand while the other hand rubs one off is not necessary in Armageddon. THAT is mudsex.
Acting out a role, knowing that you, the player, are NOT the elf who is shooting his load on his tribal mate's thigh, is NOT mudsex. It is acting out a role. And it is rarely, if ever, necessary to actually act it out in detail. Sometimes it helps set the tone of the relationship when it's starting out. It's easier to act out your perfectly circumsized, but oddly curved penis, than to have to spend an hour OOCing "so is he snipped?" "ooc yeah but he curves to the left." "Oh yeah? Does he curve left-up, or left-down?" "Oh it's a convex curve, definitely."
It's much easier, to act out the folds of the labia that are permanently and ritually scarred, than it is to spend an hour OOCing it just so that the other party knows how to react when he fades the next time around.
So yeah sometimes it's a good thing to act it out. But that -never- means it has to be mudsex. And it's really tiring to have to defend intimacy in roleplay, to people who cannot differentiate between the two.
Whoa! Where did that come from?
He said he wasn't talking about mudsex (as in emoting out bumping uglies).
It all sounded like an honest curious question too, not something that needed to be defended against.
Anyway, it is my assumption that OOC relationships are not part of this thread.
I believe that yes, it is natural for a character to want to have intimate, romantic relationships. However, if a player is uncomfortable, I think it's perfectly acceptable for you to roleplay as fulfilling that with vNPCs rather than having an IC lack of interest in sex/romance/propagation.
As for being just friends with the opposite sex, well, I think that question is difficult enough to answer in real life. Without some barrier to intimacy, I think most relationships will either evolve or fail if attraction is involved. Even if there is a sufficient barrier, I don't think attraction is likely to ever go away, though.
QuoteWhy do I feel that the restriction on tuluki inter-caste relationships should continue? Because I like the cultural restrictions. By making Zalanthas more different from the real world, it also makes it more alive. I like structure, I like the challenge of making the foreign accessible.
Cultural restrictions as well and good, however, if the case is that if you have any kind of romantic relationship with a commoner as a Tuluki noble, wether they have sex or not, whether they act out the sex or not, your character will be stored sound a little.... Crazy to me. This MAY not always be the case. I'd really like to hear from the Tuluki Noble imms on this. I can understand saying it's unheard of, and taboo, but, honstly, incest is almost like that in America. It still happens. Quietly behind closed doors and a big deal is not made about it. While the southern nobles tend to flaunt all the people they've slept with, the northen prefer to keep quiet about it since their marriages are all about alliances. Yes, it may make it different than in real life, but you have real life people playing. That would be like asking them to roleplay out an alien who does not like any other beings and has no concept of sex or relationships and telling them they have to further the plot of the story! No, it's not quite that bad. People NEED RELATIONSHIPS! Not just friends. vNPC's are all well and good, but having another player there and no knowing what they're going to do make it more REAL. That's why -I- think nobles and commoners should be taboo, but not completly banned so that your character will be stored.
I think part of it, (I'm obviously not a Tuluki Imm) is that it starts with a snowflake and becomes a blizzard very easily.
If you let just two elves ride kanks, soon they're all tall skinny humans.
There are plenty of roles, most roles in fact where you can make your love life the primary focus of your existence. There is a lot of sex in game. And there are some people who really need that aspect of rp to enjoy their roles. I think though, that not everyone, possibly not even the majority feel that way, or at least don't feel that it's necessary with every pc.
To say that if Tuluki Nobles can't have deep meaningful relationships with the marjority of the world, they become nearly unplayable, is very valid. To say if they can't have sexual with most of the world they become unplayable I think is not true for most people.
Quote from: NoteworthyFellow on September 05, 2008, 10:40:05 AM
Quote from: Gimfalisette on September 05, 2008, 10:35:36 AMBut in Tuluk, it is very likely that deep emotional bonds will form from both sides of the relationship, over time. A Tuluki noble and commoner could be best friends and confidantes. They just can't have sex; and the understanding that sex is unthinkable is what allows that emotional relationship to be possible.
I think this is exactly why I'd play a Tuluki noble if the opportunity were to arise.
I have played characters from both sides of the noble/templar-commoner coin, in Tuluk and in Allanak, where deep relationships did evolve over time. And there was no sex--in Tuluk, never even a thought of sex, and in Allanak no feeling that the relationship needed sex.
But IMO, playing out relationships like this takes a lot of maturity and intelligence from both players. It takes a willingness to play characters who are whole people, despite how gruff/efficient/cool they may seem on the surface. It takes a willingness to dig into the vulnerabilities of the other character, and ICly care about them. It takes a willingness to expose oneself emotionally, at least to some extent. It's pretty much like RL relationships in a lot of ways. You can't make the relationship if you don't take some risks and put yourself out there.
In fact, some of these noble/templar-commoner relationships have been major highlights of my time here in ARM.
Quote from: Barzalene on September 05, 2008, 11:25:50 AM
To say that if Tuluki Nobles can't have deep meaningful relationships with the marjority of the world, they become nearly unplayable, is very valid. To say if they can't have sexual with most of the world they become unplayable I think is not true for most people.
Exactly.
I would love to see more bondmate, confidante, best-friend type relationships happening between nobles/templars and commoners...obviously everyone is going to keep it secret even if it's just an emotional connection. But it adds so much to the roles of both boss and minion.
This thread derail is for mudsex and IC sexual relationships in general. Please take the Tuluki Noble discussion bact to the original thread.
Except that thread was about the lack of nobles in Tuluk, not the relationships between Tuluki nobles and commoners. :P
The OP specifically asked a question pertaining to the Tuluki castes and sex. So discussing it here is perfectly valid.
Another thought, kind of based on what Lizzie says above:
Sometimes we, on these forums, seem to have this schizophrenia about which feelings are acceptable to feel OOCly and which are not. Like, it's OK to be scared if your character in danger...it's OK to be spooked by what happens on the RPT...it's OK to share your character's feelings of rage or helplessness, because that's all part of -Armageddon-...(assuming you keep all of this in some kind of rational check, of course, where it is enjoyable rather than crazy-making, and doesn't cause you to flame people or otherwise act out OOCly).
But it's not OK to actually have any sexual interest in what your character is doing.
I don't understand why we're so mutually squeamish about the topic of sex in ARM. I don't play ARM to get sexual gratification, or to get fear gratification, or to get rage gratification, or any kind of emotional gratification or feeling...but those feelings -are- all a part of playing ARM. Those feelings are -fun-. And I think that's OK.
Would any of us be hooked on Crackageddon if we never felt that surge of curiosity, or fear, or rage, or lust? Isn't that really the whole point? Yes, it's OK not to feel those things, but I contend that the connection between what the character is experiencing and what the player is experiencing is vitally important to the interest level.
please ignore my last post, apparently I forgot how to read.
:-[
Relationships, or lack thereof, seem to be a pretty basic tenet for most people. By people I mean the characters played, not necessarily the players.
Why do we play a MUD? To pretend to be someone else, and interact with a WORLD FULL OF PEOPLE.
Some people thrive on solo play, but I'm betting the majority don't. As others have mentioned, it's not really about sex. It's about having relationships with other people that explore the depths of your character.
What's the point of having really deep flaws, or really cool phobias, or life-altering obsessions, if you cannot express these to other people? Many times, these are not things you would publicly flaunt, but want someone, somewhere, to SEE. Being intimate with another character, sexually or otherwise, gives us a stage for the things about our characters we'd like others to know, but can't exactly shout about.
Some of the best RP I've had was generated by love, betrayal, a desperate attempt to repair... sadly it ended in a rather grotesque and frightening death for my PC, but the events leading up to it were pretty intense. "Betrayal" doesn't mean nearly as much if the people you're betraying don't care about you in some manner. Caring about, or being cared about, tends to leave a longer impression once your character has passed on to MantisHead.
Is sex important? Not necessarily -personally- so, but it IS a rather big part of life in Zalanthas, whether your PC engages in it or not.
RELATIONSHIPS are what's important, and that seems to be borne out by several other posts here.
QuoteSometimes we, on these forums, seem to have this schizophrenia ... But it's not OK to actually have any sexual interest in what your character is doing. I don't understand why we're so mutually squeamish about the topic of sex in ARM.
I think this unfortunately has to do with a broader aspect of sex and other "unacceptable" things in society (especially American, as that is the one I am most familiar with); specifically how it is taboo or otherwise uncomfortable to talk about it openly while at the same time accepting things like murder, gratuitous violence, etc. Obviously this doesn't apply to everyone, but it must at least apply to some people. The discussion of that aspect may or may not be going too far in this case, however.
The big idea is to accept the difference between the actions of the player and the actions of the character, while staying interested in anything that goes on, and to keep all IG actions IC.
Quote from: Cutthroat on September 05, 2008, 12:37:27 PM
I think this unfortunately has to do with a broader aspect of sex and other "unacceptable" things in society (especially American, as that is the one I am most familiar with); specifically how it is taboo or otherwise uncomfortable to talk about it openly while at the same time accepting things like murder, gratuitous violence, etc. Obviously this doesn't apply to everyone, but it must at least apply to some people. The discussion of that aspect may or may not be going too far in this case, however.
That might be part of it, but my honest opinion is that the typical ARM player (young American male) is just not all that...deep, or capable of RPing sustained relationships. So there's kind of a "lone cowboy" factor that comes into play; "I'm a cowboy, I don't need you and your girly things." (Relationships are girly in this worldview.)
This is not to say, of course, that all young American males have this worldview or are like this. Just that this is the overall flavor of the playerbase. Everyone's an action hero and has no time for "silly things."
And keeping IC and OOC separate while still allowing oneself to enjoy the feelings that result is a pretty mature trick.
Quote from: Cutthroat on September 05, 2008, 12:37:27 PMThe big idea is to accept the difference between the actions of the player and the actions of the character, while staying interested in anything that goes on, and to keep all IG actions IC.
Well, right. Just because I murder your character in game doesn't mean I hate you out of game and I'm going to hunt you down to do the same IRL. And just because our characters have a torrid love affair doesn't mean we're going to hook up in RL and have babies.
But it's OK to feel those clenches of fear, rage, desire OOCly. I mean, really...I pretty much only want to play with other players who will do one or more of those things for me. And the most intense, most character-developing relationships have some aspect of all three. (Desire/longing has many forms...not all sexual.) What's a lover, in ARM, if they don't threaten your life or beat you up on occasion, then have crazy sex with you? What's a sibling, if they're not fighting against you and then getting in some kind of trouble you need to rescue them from? What's a boss, if not the person who both berates you and cherishes you? What's a minion, if you can't see your younger self in them and nurture them while also scaring the crap out of them?
Mmm relationships.
Moe, if he isn't asking about mudsex, then the title of this thread shouldn't be "What role does mudsex play for you?" and the entire content of his first post should be changed to whatever it is he's actually asking about. It is clear to me, that some people confuse mudsex and personal -player- sexual gratification, with IC relationships, and assume if they see two *characters* in a relationship in the game, it must mean the *players* are mudsexing.
In fact, I have experienced the discomfort of learning, that someone once created a character intentionally to get "cozy" with one of my characters, because they thought I would mudsex with them, based on their in-game observations of my characters.
I have also watched some players create the same types of characters over and over again, specifically for the very obvious purpose of attracting sexual behavior in-game. Whether they were known mudsexers, or known faders, isn't even the point. It just is really distasteful to think that sex is such an emphasis that the staff actually has to put OOC rules in place to force a taboo on an entire subculture of the game (tuluk nobles).
I feel the primary reason they have done that, was because the *players* could not be trusted to keep both hands on the keyboard and not use their noble character's influence ICly, to encourage OOC hormones to run rampant. And that - is very sad. I don't know if that was the reason, but given the constant talk about mudsex, and nobles wanting to mudsex, and players wanting to mudsex, I can't help but feel that way.
It definitely isn't why I play Armageddon. It certainly isn't a factor when I create my characters. I usually fade, and very rarely act anything out. And I resent that there is an assumption that *characters* who have intimate romantic interests in other *characters* are the result of *players* who want to mudsex. I also resent that people who -do- want to mudsex, perpetuate this myth on purpose.
That is where I am coming from.
First reply to this thread was me asking him to clarify, and he did. Some people don't go back and edit their posts just for a wording or content mistake. I typically don't.
I figure The only reason it came up is possibly the OP was careless with wording or mistook "mudsex" as a term that means any romantic relationship between characters on a MUD, which is an honest mistake considering "mudsex" doesn't appear in many dictionaries.
Anyway, other than that you believe this thread is about mudsex, I'm having trouble understanding exactly what you're objecting to so strongly.
Quote from: Semper on September 05, 2008, 09:50:59 AM
Partial derail from the "Current Languishing of Tuluki Nobility" thread found here: http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,32304.0.html (http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,32304.0.html).As a side question of my curiosity, can anyone explain the why and what function the relationship barrier between castes exists? On a more broader perspective though, what role does mud sex play for you and your character? Let's try to keep this umm...mature.
I think Gim makes some pretty valid points on some of the historical reasons behind the Tuluki cultural mores.
However, I think it boils down to this: they are simply a different culture from our own.
To explain a bit more: I think it's safe to say that almost everyone who plays this game comes from a "Western" culture. Our own culture colors our belief system, and we - usually without thinking about it - can make judgements based on our Western bias. Allanak can be easier to understand as a culture because it's very familiar to us, and has a more classical "western" society. Tuluk on the other hand, is different. Tuluk has many concepts which are, frankly, rather alien to modern western eyes. Legal assassinations and theft? Bu-whaa?
Inter-caste sexuality is one of these. While it might make sense to you, as a westerner, that sexual relations between two different castes would be "a good thing" and "no big deal", to the Tulukis it is. To Tuluki's it's just one of those things that you just don't do - kind of like how we don't (at least openly) have sex with our sisters or marry 13 year-olds. To other cultures, having sex with your sister or marrying a 13 year-old is "no big deal". In our culture, you're probably going to be ostracized for the first, and you're going to jail for the second.
I think it can be hard for people to remove the veil of the trappings that their own culture gives them. This is more or less what the whole concept of Cultural Relativity in Anthropology revolves around: individual or group beliefs and activities (and their moral weight) can only be understood in terms of that person's own culture. While the behavior might not make sense
to you, it makes perfect sense
to the Tuluki.
What this means for players (of any roleplaying game) is that it's important to try and remove yourself from your own cultural trappings, and embrace the cultural trappings of the role and character you're playing. You are all cultural anthropologists, emersing yourselves in the culture you are playing in. In many ways, people do this quite often already: people are A-Ok playing elves who don't ride mounts, and like to steal things and lie a lot. I think this is supported with many, many years of people playing elves who didn't ride mounts, and liked to lie and steal a lot.
The problem with Tuluk is that it's still (even years and years later) kind of "new". It can be hard to accept "new" things, and strict rules (like if you pork someone outisde of your caste, you'll be stored) were put in place in order to help the historical culture develop. That isn't to say there aren't pervert Tuluki's who like sneaking off to make inter-caste whoopie, but that they are the exception to the rule, and not the norm. Since you cannot have exceptions without a steady, standard baseline already in place, I imagine the staff would rather everyone play a "standard" role for the most part, and special app for the pervs.
While sex is forbidden between the castes in Tuluk, romantic relationships have happened before. There is always repercussions for both castes.
Personally, for me, the sexual taboos of Tuluk was the appeal to play a noble for various reasons.
Quote from: Lizzie on September 05, 2008, 12:56:10 PM
And I resent that there is an assumption that *characters* who have intimate romantic interests in other *characters* are the result of *players* who want to mudsex. I also resent that people who -do- want to mudsex, perpetuate this myth on purpose.
Why get so worked up about what other people do or don't do, or enjoy or don't enjoy, in game? Sure, there are a lot of players looking for mudsex. There are also a lot of players looking to smash a scrab. Or find Steinal. Or whatever. But their desires don't dictate what I do; they don't affect me.
Though, I have to say, two years ago the whole phenomena of IC relationships and mudsex freaked me out quite a bit. (Who did it, why were they doing it, were they getting off on it, what was their ulterior motive, were they going to use it against me or anyone else OOCly, were they really stalkers waiting for an outlet?) But since then I've come to trust the playerbase and my own judgment on these things.
Moderated a post. Please don't troll threads or flame players.
Quote from: Semper on September 05, 2008, 09:50:59 AM
Partial derail from the "Current Languishing of Tuluki Nobility" thread found here: http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,32304.0.html (http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,32304.0.html). While reading a few posts on the thread, people were mentioning that having the intimate relationship barrier between castes was a detriment to the role. As a side question of my curiosity, can anyone explain the why and what function the relationship barrier between castes exists? On a more broader perspective though, what role does mud sex play for you and your character? Let's try to keep this umm...mature.
Two pages in, and I nearly forgot what the OP was asking for. :P
1. To me, the function is to ensure differences (as Barzalene explained), in two ways. Culturally, it's tougher, it's more challenging, and it's ultimately more rewarding - because it prevents the world from dissolving into two-dimensions, although it does mean some players have to sacrifice things to make it work. We actually have two city-states with cultural differences not driven by pop culture (a la, Lord of the Rings). How cool is that? It also helps give roleplaying ideas to us sods who need a little... creative guidance.
"How would I play a person who would have no sexual attraction to a person, who is really, really attractive?"
"What is love without sex?"
"How do I keep a character human under all of these restrictions?"
All the sorts of curious questions from which memorable character experiences are born. I, for one, doubt I ever would have seriously thought over some of the things playing in Tuluk has in the past made me ponder. -_-
2. I think my favorite kind of drama is of the romantic kind. Coupled with an overwhelming love of messing with players' (and to an extent characters') heads and I'd say that sex, love, and everything in between takes up a majority of my mundane & memorable RPing time. Those conflicts have a way of perking my interest.
I just want to say Tlaloc has some great perspective on shit.
As for mudsex/relationships. Well, I've only been playing a year and some change but I'm one of those characters who doesn't go out actively looking for relationships yet I've had a few rather successful PCs who have had very meaningful relationships. They just didn't every really make it more then friendships.
It's just not my thing. As for being a young American male. Yea... I guess. I'm 24, white, male.... so yes, but I do have a girlfriend IRL and we've been in a relationship over a year.
At the end of the day it's something I've always considered with my PCs and something that might come up in the future it's just not something I actively go out of my way to find or even to encourage. It just seems two dimensional to me... I don't know, I get all the relationship I need in real life so the game is a bit of an escape.
Sorry, probably babbling.
Brandon
Mudsex = lame
If I wanted to pick up girls I'd walk outside.
Quote from: Semper on September 05, 2008, 09:50:59 AM
What role does mud sex play for you and your character?
I've always found that my characters never "click" with me until they get into a romantic relationship. I may enjoy my characters, but they never feel
juuuuust right until that happens. It's something that solidifies the reason I play an RPI mud instead of just playing Fallout 3, or writing a short story: the romantic interest becomes an integral part of my character's story that I really have little control over, and it forces me to flesh them out into a fully multi-dimensional character. (I can't say the same for my character's non-romantic frienships and relationships, but I suspect that's because I'm paranoid and always assume my character's "friends" will betray my character at some point.)
Mudsex for me is a game of RP chicken. It's not something I actively seek; if anything, I try and avoid it because it's just so damned time-consuming while accomplishing very little, but it ultimately comes up in my character's romantic relationships. When mudsex does come up, I'm forced to wrestle with my desire, as a player, to not waste too much time whispering sweet nothings, my desire NOT to break character, and my desire to act out all of my character's events wide-eyed, through the good, bad, and gruesome.
I personally have always found romantic relationships (and the drama they bring) or a lack of romantic relationships or attraction (and the reasons why) to be really interesting facets of my characters.
Anything else I would have wanted to say has already been said.
So here's a kinda of new question.... Since Tuluki nobles have no interest in anyone other than Tuluki nobles... Does that means it is common to be attracted to a cousin or sister/brother? Or even a mother/father?
The cousin thing is probably hard to aviod since there were such few numbers years ago, but how is that seen now?
Quote from: tortall on September 06, 2008, 09:59:49 AM
So here's a kinda of new question.... Since Tuluki nobles have no interest in anyone other than Tuluki nobles... Does that means it is common to be attracted to a cousin or sister/brother? Or even a mother/father?
The cousin thing is probably hard to aviod since there were such few numbers years ago, but how is that seen now?
I think, people are expected to take the virtual population into consideration. If there is only one PC Tenneshi, and no other PC nobles at all, that Tenneshi has HUNDREDS of people to be attracted to, in the virtual world of virtual noble houses. He can be best friends with Virtual Chosen Lady Matilda Winrothol and he can solo-emote his virtual tea party while they virtually flirt, but don't do anything about it, because he is virtually attracted to men and she is a virtual lesbian but the virtual flirting game is FUN regardless And in the meantime, he is virtually boinking Virtual Chosen Lord Foopy Negean every third Nekrete, with all kinds of fun fades and virtual graphics (because Virtual Foopy consents, yay!). While the rest of us non-noble players are free to enjoy the dynamics of actual PC-PC interaction in terms of romance, vague attraction with no forthcoming results, sex itself, love, cuddling, physical affection of ANY sort including the platonic sort, the solo PC noble's player must be satisfied with his virtual playpals. Or, he can retire, and join the rest of the PC population that is allowed to have dynamic relationships with each other.
Quote from: tortall on September 06, 2008, 09:59:49 AM
So here's a kinda of new question.... Since Tuluki nobles have no interest in anyone other than Tuluki nobles... Does that means it is common to be attracted to a cousin or sister/brother? Or even a mother/father?
The cousin thing is probably hard to aviod since there were such few numbers years ago, but how is that seen now?
Each of the Tuluki noble houses probably has somewhere in the realm of 200 noble family members. Maybe a little more or little less. They are not ginormous like the Allanaki noble families, but there's plenty of them for marriages between the houses. Or for falling in love with, potentially.
Also Tuluki nobles use infertile, human sex slaves for when there's a purely sexual urge.
I find that a romantic relationship makes for a much greater depth of feeling than most others. It's almost a shortcut, really: you can reach a level of emotional entanglement in a few months that would take many years and near-death experiences to match with a mere coworker.
The death of my good huntin' buddy Amos is to be avenged with all due diligence. But the death of my mate...that's to be avenged with extreme prejudice. That means blood. And fingers.
I'm afraid that I always play excessively romantic characters.
I like romance in all aspects, whether it be dirty byn-loving or snooty Kadian drama. I draw the line when it becomes a fixation of spending the most time possible in an apartment. There are ways for me to enjoy my character without mudsex!
Quote from: tortall on September 06, 2008, 09:59:49 AM
So here's a kinda of new question.... Since Tuluki nobles have no interest in anyone other than Tuluki nobles... Does that means it is common to be attracted to a cousin or sister/brother? Or even a mother/father?
The cousin thing is probably hard to aviod since there were such few numbers years ago, but how is that seen now?
For more information on Armageddon insest, please visit the Jul Tavan documentation. ;)
I wasn't asking that so I could mudsex, just fyi. I was wondering if that is part of the culture of Tuluk. After reading all this I understand WHY, it's that way, I just think it makes it harder to play, and.... Well, this derails to the Tuluki noble thing, so I'll post the continuation in there.
But I was not asking so I could have mudsex. :-p
And as soon as I get to my own computer I'll do just that FW. This computer hates loading pages and I am about ready to shoot it. :-D
How does the whole 'infertile human sex slave' thing work?
Aren't those sex slaves in a different caste? Or is there a special 'sex slave only caste' ?
It seems a bit weird to have such a massive taboo against inter-caste dating a poet or such on one hand, and then flippant references to hordes of virtually subhuman slaves to get off on.
Slaves aren't people. They don't count as 'below your caste' because they don't count as people. They're.. slaves. Sex slaves are for sex. They're brought up for it, trained to it, and that's all they're for.
Quote from: Semper on September 05, 2008, 09:50:59 AM
On a more broader perspective though, what role does mud sex play for you and your character?
None.
Do I NEED romance in my characters' lives? No, and sometimes I do get tired by all the drama associated with it. But it can be fun to have, and it's a good method for establishing some hooks and relationships with other characters. It's not essential, but it's an aspect of a character like anything else, and I like to roleplay serious character concepts that are as close to somebody real as I can get them.
Roleplaying sex is just a product of roleplaying a romantic relationship. I don't think there's any shame in it -- just like real relationships can develop through sex, your characters' relationships can too. It's character development, and that's good. Of course, it can also be a real chore, but that's why you can fade to black or gloss over things.
I don't think there's any shame in it.
I'll also say that I as a player have let my characters do some really stupid, crazy stupid things when lovers of my characters have died that they definitely wouldn't have done if rational, if they're the types of characters that are attached to their lovers. One of those instances was actually one of my favorite roleplay moments on Arm. To reiterate that intimate relationships aren't ALL about the mudsex.
I got no shame in baring it all.
No shame.
I've drank a little tonight.
I try to just keep my shit IC, so there have been a few times when people were dropping clothing and I was in the room, but that's just what was happening in the game. I definately don't go out looking for love since for the most part I like playing exploring, adventure etc. more than passionate embraces. In the end for 93 percent of the time the ftb is preferred by me, playing it out it low on my priority list.
I don't think the adventurely exploring type and the passionately embracing type are mutually exclusive.
Well, in Dakkon's defense, It's hard to run from those spiders with your pants around your ankles and your woman wrapped around your waist.
Quote from: Barzalene on September 24, 2008, 07:38:20 PM
Well, in Dakkon's defense, It's hard to run from those spiders with your pants around your ankles and your woman wrapped around your waist.
Hard, but not impossible!
You just aren't trying hard enough ;D You're supposed to unwrap the woman from your waist, and throw her down. Then you just have to run faster than the woman.
If she's a good woman, she'll throw herself in front of the spider FOR you, thereby saving your sorry ass Amos life.
I've tried the mudsex thing once or twice, and it was with a character that tried all the time to 'snag some tail'. To tell the truth, I can barely (if at all) get laid if I -try- with my characters.
Quote from: Kiri on September 24, 2008, 10:13:56 PM
If she's a good woman, she'll throw herself in front of the spider FOR you, thereby saving your sorry ass Amos life.
I've had PCs that would throw themselves in front of the spider, cleave the spider's head in, then have sex with you on
top of the spider. That's just the way we roll.
Quote from: Iota on September 27, 2008, 03:15:04 PM
Quote from: Kiri on September 24, 2008, 10:13:56 PM
If she's a good woman, she'll throw herself in front of the spider FOR you, thereby saving your sorry ass Amos life.
I've had PCs that would throw themselves in front of the spider, cleave the spider's head in, then have sex with you on top of the spider. That's just the way we roll.
For some reason this made me think of Gina Carano. Damn, s'cuse me, I need a minute. ;)
mudsex is for dweebs.
jmordetsky is a dweeb for not playing arm.
Quote from: Rhyden on October 03, 2008, 09:47:09 PM
jmordetsky is a dweeb for not playing arm.
Rhyden is correct.
Quote from: The7DeadlyVenomz on October 03, 2008, 10:06:36 PM
Quote from: Rhyden on October 03, 2008, 09:47:09 PM
jmordetsky is a dweeb for not playing arm.
Rhyden is correct.
I tried. I died. This game is to hard to win and every one is always trying to mudsex me.
mudsex is for people that can't get any in real life, and if they could they wouldn't know what to do anyway.
Quote from: Moe on October 04, 2008, 04:27:07 PM
mudsex is for people that can't get any in real life, and if they could they wouldn't know what to do anyway.
Pretty far from the truth, and guess what!? Now everyone thinks you're a prick.
Cheers!
Quote from: manonfire on October 04, 2008, 04:34:10 PM
Quote from: Moe on October 04, 2008, 04:27:07 PM
mudsex is for people that can't get any in real life, and if they could they wouldn't know what to do anyway.
Pretty far from the truth, and guess what!? Now everyone thinks you're a prick.
Cheers!
I thought he was a prick before he even posted.
Quote from: jmordetsky on October 04, 2008, 04:17:10 PM
Quote from: The7DeadlyVenomz on October 03, 2008, 10:06:36 PM
Quote from: Rhyden on October 03, 2008, 09:47:09 PM
jmordetsky is a dweeb for not playing arm.
Rhyden is correct.
I tried. I died. This game is to hard to win and every one is always trying to mudsex me.
There. Happy now? If you have ever wanted to kill me just look for the guy in charlton leather boots who doesn't know any of the new commands.
Will work for mudsex.
The most conspicuous role mudsex has played for me has been the times when a character of mine has a sexual encounter with another character, and then that player starts frickin' wanting to have mudsex constantly. Geebuz, I hate that! Like, every time I log on I see the person and I think OOCly "Oh Motherfckn Geebuz!, Man I have got to get some sparring in! I'm going to start losing stats for old age before I can begin to be dangerous at this rate! Stop fucking with me!...Literally!"
Rant over -_-
But you gotta tell me...am I alone in this?
Quote from: jmordetsky on October 04, 2008, 05:35:12 PMThere. Happy now? If you have ever wanted to kill me just look for the guy in charlton leather boots who doesn't know any of the new commands.
Will work for mudsex.
Wait, you made a character? Hah hah. Good job. Now just find a long-lived leader, get in behind her/him, and get into the flow of things, baby. Glad to have you back.
Quote from: Goldberry on October 04, 2008, 10:59:08 PM
The most conspicuous role mudsex has played for me has been the times when a character of mine has a sexual encounter with another character, and then that player starts frickin' wanting to have mudsex constantly. Geebuz, I hate that! Like, every time I log on I see the person and I think OOCly "Oh Motherfckn Geebuz!, Man I have got to get some sparring in! I'm going to start losing stats for old age before I can begin to be dangerous at this rate! Stop fucking with me!...Literally!"
Rant over -_-
But you gotta tell me...am I alone in this?
You could do both at the same time, you just need to watch more japanese movies to see how it's done!
Quote from: Malken on October 04, 2008, 11:06:06 PM
Quote from: Goldberry on October 04, 2008, 10:59:08 PM
The most conspicuous role mudsex has played for me has been the times when a character of mine has a sexual encounter with another character, and then that player starts frickin' wanting to have mudsex constantly. Geebuz, I hate that! Like, every time I log on I see the person and I think OOCly "Oh Motherfckn Geebuz!, Man I have got to get some sparring in! I'm going to start losing stats for old age before I can begin to be dangerous at this rate! Stop fucking with me!...Literally!"
Rant over -_-
But you gotta tell me...am I alone in this?
You could do both at the same time, you just need to watch more japanese movies to see how it's done!
lol! Ok, next time this happens, I'm integrating a violent fetish that involves sparring weapons.
Well played, Malken. :) Problem solved.
You could also fade to black. I get the feeling some people think that fading is only for people who are offended by graphic details. Personally, I'm not offended by them at all. I just have no particular need for them, and would rather be spam-crafting arrows than lovingly running my long sinewy slender and perfectly manicured fingers over the yearning flesh of your 10-inch krath-hot, granite-hard manhood.
Each to their own, but if you would rather be sparring, then FADE.
Ten inches is way too much anyway.
Quote from: Is Friday on October 04, 2008, 11:54:14 PM
Ten inches is way too much anyway.
Oh sorry, I thought this was the Half-Giant Sex Orgy thread.
Yep, that's what I end up having to do and then the attention stops. It's still annoying.
Me and my friend just tried it and it doesn't work so good, it confused the game as to what we were trying to achieve and Ginka just decided to crash on us ???
Quote from: Malken on October 05, 2008, 12:28:29 AM
Me and my friend just tried it and it doesn't work so good, it confused the game as to what we were trying to achieve and Ginka just decided to crash on us ???
Damn you Malken! (shakes fist)
Quote from: Goldberry on October 05, 2008, 12:03:48 AM
Yep, that's what I end up having to do and then the attention stops. It's still annoying.
You need to move up to a higher quality of player that will appreciate you for more than your PC's virtual body, girlfriend. I've never had this experience with fading.
Quote from: Goldberry on October 04, 2008, 11:50:22 PM
Quote from: Malken on October 04, 2008, 11:06:06 PM
Quote from: Goldberry on October 04, 2008, 10:59:08 PM
The most conspicuous role mudsex has played for me has been the times when a character of mine has a sexual encounter with another character, and then that player starts frickin' wanting to have mudsex constantly. Geebuz, I hate that! Like, every time I log on I see the person and I think OOCly "Oh Motherfckn Geebuz!, Man I have got to get some sparring in! I'm going to start losing stats for old age before I can begin to be dangerous at this rate! Stop fucking with me!...Literally!"
Rant over -_-
But you gotta tell me...am I alone in this?
You could do both at the same time, you just need to watch more japanese movies to see how it's done!
lol! Ok, next time this happens, I'm integrating a violent fetish that involves sparring weapons silt horror tentacles.
Well played, Malken. :) Problem solved.
Quote from: Goldberry on October 04, 2008, 10:59:08 PM
The most conspicuous role mudsex has played for me has been the times when a character of mine has a sexual encounter with another character, and then that player starts frickin' wanting to have mudsex constantly. Geebuz, I hate that! Like, every time I log on I see the person and I think OOCly "Oh Motherfckn Geebuz!, Man I have got to get some sparring in! I'm going to start losing stats for old age before I can begin to be dangerous at this rate! Stop fucking with me!...Literally!"
Rant over -_-
But you gotta tell me...am I alone in this?
You are not alone.
Quote from: Barzalene on October 05, 2008, 08:50:29 AM
Quote from: Goldberry on October 04, 2008, 10:59:08 PM
The most conspicuous role mudsex has played for me has been the times when a character of mine has a sexual encounter with another character, and then that player starts frickin' wanting to have mudsex constantly. Geebuz, I hate that! Like, every time I log on I see the person and I think OOCly "Oh Motherfckn Geebuz!, Man I have got to get some sparring in! I'm going to start losing stats for old age before I can begin to be dangerous at this rate! Stop fucking with me!...Literally!"
Rant over -_-
But you gotta tell me...am I alone in this?
You are not alone.
I'd fade to black and still respect you in the morning. :D
I've never had a problem with figuring out which sort of players don't mind a fade in a "relationship".
Quote from: The7DeadlyVenomz on October 04, 2008, 11:04:19 PM
Quote from: jmordetsky on October 04, 2008, 05:35:12 PMThere. Happy now? If you have ever wanted to kill me just look for the guy in charlton leather boots who doesn't know any of the new commands.
Will work for mudsex.
Wait, you made a character? Hah hah. Good job. Now just find a long-lived leader, get in behind her/him, and get into the flow of things, baby. Glad to have you back.
Yar! thanks, i feel spechul ;)
This has nothing to do with mudsex so I will post now on topic.
I never fade. Ever. :)
Quote from: Moe on October 04, 2008, 04:27:07 PM
mudsex is for people that can't get any in real life, and if they could they wouldn't know what to do anyway.
You, my friend, couldn't be further from the truth.
I'd like to think that, on the level of "roleplay" that I've had during certain scenes, you'd have to think that someone could only know what they do from experience.
It's the noobs, like perhaps you, that will typically hit off with:
>sticks ^me cock in ~woman.
Quote from: Gunnerblaster on October 11, 2008, 12:20:46 PM
Quote from: Moe on October 04, 2008, 04:27:07 PM
mudsex is for people that can't get any in real life, and if they could they wouldn't know what to do anyway.
You, my friend, couldn't be further from the truth.
I'd like to think that, on the level of "roleplay" that I've had during certain scenes, you'd have to think that someone could only know what they do from experience.
It's the noobs, like perhaps you, that will typically hit off with:
>sticks ^me cock in ~woman.
Actually, I think the true noobs hit it off with:
> em removes ~halter, revealing her perky boobs, gazing over at ~otherwoman with lust in his eyes
> ooc I meant her.
Newbs start with vests, don't they? Vests or shirts.
A newb buying a halter top is pretty over the top, imo.
Quote from: Is Friday on October 11, 2008, 12:39:10 PM
Newbs start with vests, don't they? Vests or shirts.
A newb buying a halter top is pretty over the top, imo.
Hey! A Bynner bought her that! He was real nice, too.
Mudsex is also a very potent assassination method.
I'm scared of mudsex.
Quote from: Fathi on October 11, 2008, 12:25:45 PM
> ooc I meant her.
Heh. Over the course of playing...hrm...several female characters, I've never been confused as to the character's sex.
%Someone player isn't identifying very well with &someone.
Quote from: Melody on October 11, 2008, 03:04:08 PM
Mudsex is also a very potent assassination method.
Which is why experienced roleplayers always keep a weapon in inventory...and experienced mage-players stay standing.
Quote from: Melody on October 11, 2008, 03:04:08 PM
Mudsex is also a very potent assassination method.
I'm scared of mudsex.
Wise ARMers only mudsex those they know have no incentive to kill them, and preferably disincentive to kill them.
Quote from: Gimfalisette on October 11, 2008, 03:11:18 PM
Wise ARMers only mudsex those they know have no incentive to kill them, and preferably disincentive to kill them.
Wise ARMers also never get too drunk to rp in the game.
But what happens when your character is not wise, and drinks! And doesn't like sexing standing or keep weapons on them?
VNPC whores FTW! VNPC Whores, because you are worth it!
....
OK, I'll stop.
Zalanthas needs a one legged whore, if it doesn't already have one, that is.
Quote from: FantasyWriter on October 11, 2008, 04:04:22 PM
Zalanthas needs a one legged whore, if it doesn't already have one, that is.
em smiles at ~buxom; ep cleaver
Quote from: FantasyWriter on October 11, 2008, 04:04:22 PM
Zalanthas needs a one legged whore, if it doesn't already have one, that is.
It does.
Quote from: Cutthroat on October 11, 2008, 04:07:34 PM
Quote from: FantasyWriter on October 11, 2008, 04:04:22 PM
Zalanthas needs a one legged whore, if it doesn't already have one, that is.
em smiles at ~buxom; ep cleaver
Bwahahaha.
I don't know that armed sex makes sense for most pcs. When sexing a whore, of course. With your pc's lover? That seems less intuitive.
Quote from: Barzalene on October 11, 2008, 10:05:54 PM
I don't know that armed sex makes sense for most pcs. When sexing a whore, of course. With your pc's lover? That seems less intuitive.
Seven hidden assassin dwarves behind the couch didn't make sense, either. Better safe than sorry.
Quote from: brytta.leofa on October 12, 2008, 02:08:51 AM
Quote from: Barzalene on October 11, 2008, 10:05:54 PM
I don't know that armed sex makes sense for most pcs. When sexing a whore, of course. With your pc's lover? That seems less intuitive.
Seven hidden assassin dwarves behind the couch didn't make sense, either. Better safe than sorry.
No but three assassin halflings hidden in the closet is genius.
Quote from: fourTwenty on October 12, 2008, 02:11:17 AM
Quote from: brytta.leofa on October 12, 2008, 02:08:51 AM
Quote from: Barzalene on October 11, 2008, 10:05:54 PM
I don't know that armed sex makes sense for most pcs. When sexing a whore, of course. With your pc's lover? That seems less intuitive.
Seven hidden assassin dwarves behind the couch didn't make sense, either. Better safe than sorry.
No but three assassin halflings hidden in the closet is genius.
Not as much as a assassin elf hidden behind the coat rack.
Quote from: Vessol on October 12, 2008, 02:22:42 AM
Quote from: fourTwenty on October 12, 2008, 02:11:17 AM
Quote from: brytta.leofa on October 12, 2008, 02:08:51 AM
Quote from: Barzalene on October 11, 2008, 10:05:54 PM
I don't know that armed sex makes sense for most pcs. When sexing a whore, of course. With your pc's lover? That seems less intuitive.
Seven hidden assassin dwarves behind the couch didn't make sense, either. Better safe than sorry.
No but three assassin halflings hidden in the closet is genius.
Not as much as a assassin elf hidden behind the coat rack.
Or a voyeuristic half-giant assassin AS the coat rack.
"Hey, watch where you hang that!"
Quote from: Kiri on October 12, 2008, 02:31:38 AM
Quote from: Vessol on October 12, 2008, 02:22:42 AM
Quote from: fourTwenty on October 12, 2008, 02:11:17 AM
Quote from: brytta.leofa on October 12, 2008, 02:08:51 AM
Quote from: Barzalene on October 11, 2008, 10:05:54 PM
I don't know that armed sex makes sense for most pcs. When sexing a whore, of course. With your pc's lover? That seems less intuitive.
Seven hidden assassin dwarves behind the couch didn't make sense, either. Better safe than sorry.
No but three assassin halflings hidden in the closet is genius.
Not as much as a assassin elf hidden behind the coat rack.
Or a voyeuristic half-giant assassin AS the coat rack.
"Hey, watch where you hang that!"
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Kiri wins!
Quote from: Fathi on October 11, 2008, 12:25:45 PM
Quote from: Gunnerblaster on October 11, 2008, 12:20:46 PM
Quote from: Moe on October 04, 2008, 04:27:07 PM
mudsex is for people that can't get any in real life, and if they could they wouldn't know what to do anyway.
You, my friend, couldn't be further from the truth.
I'd like to think that, on the level of "roleplay" that I've had during certain scenes, you'd have to think that someone could only know what they do from experience.
It's the noobs, like perhaps you, that will typically hit off with:
>sticks ^me cock in ~woman.
Actually, I think the true noobs hit it off with:
> em removes ~halter, revealing her perky boobs, gazing over at ~otherwoman with lust in his eyes
> ooc I meant her.
Quoted for truth. ;D
Quote from: FantasyWriter on October 11, 2008, 04:04:22 PM
Zalanthas needs a one legged whore, if it doesn't already have one, that is.
> say (with a twinkle in his eye) I must warn you I have a huge foot fettish.
> look buxom
>Think Crap!.
Mudsex is a myth. One used to entice new players into the game ???
Quote from: SMuz on November 20, 2008, 06:08:13 PM
Mudsex is a myth. One used to entice new players into the game ???
ROFL!!! Ohhh, poor n00b. You will learn. Mudsex is EVERYWHERE.
More in the south than the north though.
Quote from: tortall on November 20, 2008, 06:53:08 PM
Quote from: SMuz on November 20, 2008, 06:08:13 PM
Mudsex is a myth. One used to entice new players into the game ???
ROFL!!! Ohhh, poor n00b. You will learn. Mudsex is EVERYWHERE.
More in the south than the north though.
I don't know what kind of crack -you're- smoking. Just because there are caste restrictions...Doesn't mean northerners don't bone the crap out of each other.
Where else can you bust a line like "His Light shine all over you" or "I think I got some Faith in your hair." Or, of course, "I THINK I'M GOING TO HLUM."
Quote from: Reiloth on November 24, 2008, 07:34:25 PM
Quote from: tortall on November 20, 2008, 06:53:08 PM
Quote from: SMuz on November 20, 2008, 06:08:13 PM
Mudsex is a myth. One used to entice new players into the game ???
ROFL!!! Ohhh, poor n00b. You will learn. Mudsex is EVERYWHERE.
More in the south than the north though.
I don't know what kind of crack -you're- smoking. Just because there are caste restrictions...Doesn't mean northerners don't bone the crap out of each other.
Where else can you bust a line like "His Light shine all over you" or "I think I got some Faith in your hair." Or, of course, "I THINK I'M GOING TO HLUM."
His Radiance, Reiloth. Raaaadiance.
Quote from: Fathi on November 24, 2008, 07:50:47 PM
Quote from: Reiloth on November 24, 2008, 07:34:25 PM
Quote from: tortall on November 20, 2008, 06:53:08 PM
Quote from: SMuz on November 20, 2008, 06:08:13 PM
Mudsex is a myth. One used to entice new players into the game ???
ROFL!!! Ohhh, poor n00b. You will learn. Mudsex is EVERYWHERE.
More in the south than the north though.
I don't know what kind of crack -you're- smoking. Just because there are caste restrictions...Doesn't mean northerners don't bone the crap out of each other.
Where else can you bust a line like "His Light shine all over you" or "I think I got some Faith in your hair." Or, of course, "I THINK I'M GOING TO HLUM."
His Radiance, Reiloth. Raaaadiance.
HAHAHAHA! WOW!!! That's amazing.
All the real action happens in the sands ;). Or in the Silt Sea.
Is THAT why they call them "neckers?"
Quote from: Kiri on November 24, 2008, 10:39:48 PM
Is THAT why they call them "neckers?"
No, but mudsex one and you'll find out why they're called "skinnies".
Quote from: brytta.leofa on September 06, 2008, 12:55:55 PM
I find that a romantic relationship makes for a much greater depth of feeling than most others. It's almost a shortcut, really: you can reach a level of emotional entanglement in a few months that would take many years and near-death experiences to match with a mere coworker.
The death of my good huntin' buddy Amos is to be avenged with all due diligence. But the death of my mate...that's to be avenged with extreme prejudice. That means blood. And fingers.
I'm afraid that I always play excessively romantic characters.
Too true. Nothing makes a good storyline and source thereof like finding a partner.
Quote from: AmandaGreathouse on January 26, 2009, 06:43:33 AM
Quote from: brytta.leofa on September 06, 2008, 12:55:55 PM
I find that a romantic relationship makes for a much greater depth of feeling than most others. It's almost a shortcut, really: you can reach a level of emotional entanglement in a few months that would take many years and near-death experiences to match with a mere coworker.
The death of my good huntin' buddy Amos is to be avenged with all due diligence. But the death of my mate...that's to be avenged with extreme prejudice. That means blood. And fingers.
I'm afraid that I always play excessively romantic characters.
Too true. Nothing makes a good storyline and source thereof like finding a partner.
But its so hard to find that special someone who doesn't die in a week. :(
That goes for everything, not just relationships.
My perspective may be a teensy weensy bit skewed, though.
I refuse to admit my current played days tally.
It's just too bad I can't find another desert elf to slip it to with my city elf that never gets tired. ;)