Parry basically gone from the game?

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June 12, 2008, 10:35:55 PM #25
QuoteArmageddon is heavily influenced by D&D. In D&D, all creatures and PCs are constantly (and rapidly) spinning around during combat. See? It makes sense.

Not in the 2nd ed. AD&D campaign I'm playing in.

And hopefully not in Armageddon.  :-\
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June 12, 2008, 10:37:01 PM #26
Quote from: X-D on June 12, 2008, 07:52:34 PM
You have seen a projectile blocked with a shield in the last 2 years Tis?

Yes, I have. Just once. I did a doubletake at the time, and checked my scroll to be sure.
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June 12, 2008, 11:13:40 PM #27
I've seen a high to mid range warrior consistently block arrows with a shield.  Within the past two months.  It was reliable.
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June 12, 2008, 11:17:51 PM #28
Block, or parry?
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June 12, 2008, 11:23:32 PM #29
Quote from: Tisiphone on June 12, 2008, 11:17:51 PM
Block, or parry?


I'd have to check my logs.  Ugh.
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June 13, 2008, 11:07:01 AM #30
I see both block and parry quite a lot with most of my chars. But I've never seen a missle blocked.

And it must have been blocked, cumon it's practically impossible to parry and arrow away with your sword...well I know I couldn't do it.....I'd just get the arrow in my face  :'(
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June 13, 2008, 11:21:29 AM #31
I'm currently investigating a potential bug with shield use and blocking both missile weapons and regular attacks.  I will get back to you guys soon.
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June 13, 2008, 11:25:52 AM #32
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June 13, 2008, 12:07:56 PM #33
Three cheers for Morg keeping the fixes to Arm 1 coming, even with Arm 2 on the horizon!
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June 13, 2008, 12:09:01 PM #34
Seriously.
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Quote from: Ami on November 23, 2010, 03:40:39 PM
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June 13, 2008, 12:34:23 PM #35
Awesome.

But prepare for next topic: Missile weapons have been nerfed.        ;)
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June 13, 2008, 12:35:27 PM #36
Morgenes: Did you ever get enough info about two handed to make an assessment on the skill being balanced or not with the changes? I'm curious about this as it pertains to parry.
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June 14, 2008, 12:04:35 AM #37
I've had a character guarding someone while protecting them from incoming missiles using my weapons, no shield though.
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June 14, 2008, 04:53:03 AM #38
shields are for nubs.
June 14, 2008, 06:14:02 AM #39
I've noticied less effectivity with the shield, actually.
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June 14, 2008, 07:07:47 AM #40
So hold on...people are saying that they have deflected missles with just a weapon??? :O In real life ain't that nearly impossible unless you practice all the time?
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June 14, 2008, 07:48:03 AM #41
I think the whole "parrying arrows with a sword/club/dagger/whatever" is a little silly myself, but I'm sure a lot of people would jump up in a hurry to say that this is a fantasy game and they want their warriors to be able to deflect arrows with a blade just like in the movies.
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June 14, 2008, 12:23:41 PM #42
Parrying an arrow is kinda stupid. Blocking an arrow with a shield is something I expect anybody who knows how to use a shield would know how to do, practice doing (New sparring drill, train archers, throwers and shield users!), and try to do in that situation.

Think about walking along with a shield and -twang-... your gonna go "Oh Shit!" and cringe behind your shield, or at least I would.

And yes, If I'm guarding someone I'm gonna be glued to their ass enough to guard them from an arrow with my shield or body one.
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June 14, 2008, 12:30:05 PM #43
This topic again? http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,29521.0.html

Quote from: musashi on June 14, 2008, 07:48:03 AM
but I'm sure a lot of people would jump up in a hurry to say that this is a fantasy game and they want their warriors to be able to deflect arrows with a blade just like in the movies.

I don't care how unrealistic parrying an arrow with a sword is. It's fucking cool. This isn't a real life simulator.
June 14, 2008, 01:25:35 PM #44 Last Edit: June 14, 2008, 01:28:34 PM by jhunter
I agree with the above post.
Also, it's not like -every- pc out there can do it either, only those who are pretty skilled. I enjoy a bit of unrealistic fantasy in my fantasy games, I don't know about some of the others around here though. If not, I think they should find non-fantasy games to play. *shrug* If I can suspend disbelief for magick and all sorts of fantasy creatures, I think I can handled a skilled warrior being able to deflect projectiles with their weapons.

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June 14, 2008, 01:35:41 PM #45
"Unrealistic", once again, is a ridiculous term to throw out in a world with fucking two ton insects walking around.

Armageddon may not be a real-life simulator, but it -is- a Zalanthas simulator, and one that the staff has said they want to be as "realistic" as possible.  I happen to find it easily believable that highly-skilled warriors could bat projectiles out of the air.  Probably not with as much accuracy as some can, though. It should also be -much- more easy to block a projectile with a shield than parry it.

I want to see realism to the point that -Zalanthas- is simulated accurately and consistently.
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June 14, 2008, 01:58:29 PM #46
I agree that blocking an arrow with a shield should be easier than parrying one with a blade.
June 14, 2008, 02:09:25 PM #47
Just to clarify when people say parry an arrow with a blade. When you say parry are you saying that they cut the arrow in half? or the actually just block it with the blade?
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June 14, 2008, 02:11:43 PM #48
What does it matter? I'm pretty sure it means to knock it out of the air with your weapon, but I have no idea what the code does, and that should be left to find out IC anyways.
June 14, 2008, 03:56:18 PM #49 Last Edit: June 14, 2008, 03:59:34 PM by Zalanthan
Quote from: Inix77 on June 14, 2008, 02:09:25 PM
When you say parry are you saying that they cut the arrow in half? or the actually just block it with the blade?
Since parrying an arrow with a blade is already in the realm of fantasy why not interpret it however you like?  Rather than in half, I'd say they are splitting the shaft lengthwise with a well-timed chop - it's even funnier to imagine.  However, if you parry a sling-thrown stone with a club but it is only deflected two rooms away then you earn a ground rule double.
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