Tents

[Tamarin]

It would be really nice if kanks could go inside the tent with you.

[HaiWolfe]

Sometimes they can. It depends on the size of the tent.

[RideTheDivide]

Ewwww

[Callisto]

It would be really nice if kanks could go inside the tent with you.

That's absurd.

[Tamarin]

It would be really nice if kanks could go inside the tent with you.

That's absurd.

A standard Callisto response.

Seems to me a kank, which is not as tall as a human, should be able to fit inside a tent.  Of course, there wouldn't be a lot of space left, but what does it matter if you're the only one using the tent?

[Bestatte]

To expand on Callisto's post (with which I vehemently agree):

A kank is not only "not as tall as a human," but it is also *many* times longer than a human. A kank simply wouldn't fit in a tent. Not with a person, not alone, not if you chopped it in half.

[Agent_137]

There are many tents in which you cannot stand up in.

The only tent that I could see existing on zalanthas that you can stand up in is a good ole wall tent. And those fuckers are really heavy and bulky. While they are a good 6-7 feet tall, they are also barely that long or wide.


Further, why the hell would you want a kank in the tent with you?

[EvilRoeSlade]

Further, why the hell would you want a kank in the tent with you????

So you can keep up the invincible shield of it being hitched to you of course.

Bad idea.  Give Desert Elves something to steal, I say!

[Agent_137]

Oh, it's one of those things.

Pah! NO one would reasonably want their kank in their tent with them unless they are having sexual relations with their kank. I doubt the Imms have the time at this point to cater to such a small portion of the population.


. . .


actually, now that I think about it, there's a whole lot of kankfuckers out there. Maybe this is a good idea after all.

[Ghost]

why the hell would you want a kank in the tent with you?

Some tents have camouflage, and cannot be seen from a distance.

Kanks however waves their many legs to all around, trying to grab attention of strangers

[Agent_137]

So, you want a huge ass ant waving his frikken legs and antennae all around in your tent while you're trying to sleep? yea . . . gg, but no.

If you want to camouflage your kank, why not just introduce kank camo? Like a big ass sand colored sandcloth blanket. Basically, a kank tent!

[Tamarin]

So, you want a huge ass ant waving his frikken legs and antennae all around in your tent while you're trying to sleep? yea . . . gg, but no.

If you want to camouflage your kank, why not just introduce kank camo? Like a big ass sand colored sandcloth blanket. Basically, a kank tent!

Interesting...

[Ghost]

So, you want a huge ass ant waving his frikken legs and antennae all around in your tent while you're trying to sleep? yea . . . gg, but no.

If you want to camouflage your kank, why not just introduce kank camo? Like a big ass sand colored sandcloth blanket. Basically, a kank tent!

Interesting...

Yeah very interesting.  We can even make a cloak for that.

The big assed and many legged figure in a hooded desert camouflaged sandcloth greatcloak is here carrying the funny looking man.

[Callisto]

A standard Callisto response.

I was going to post that you would have to be a complete fucking moron to think taking a kank inside your tent with you is a good idea.

That would have been a standard Callisto response.

[Morrolan]

The pimply-faced tamplar has the following animals for sale:
...
05) a desert-camoflage painted kank for 900 coins
...

buy 5
hitch kank
title kank HUM-V

[some time later, on a ubiquitous desert dune]

dismount

emote looks around.

think Now where the fuck did I put my kank?

[ashjpd]

Seriously, this thing would be awesome to have. It would save my but a lot. If it could work codedly also, then that would be great. This is how I would picture it would work:

A skilled tailor could make one or it could be bought for many sids at a tailor shop, something of the sort.

So you buy it, and you get your kank.

mount kank
wear cloak kank
You strap and tie the cloak onto the mount.

A greenish, brown kank is standing here.
Would change to:
A long, figure with antannes is standing here.

mount kank
rest kank
look

nothing.

And the mount would disappear to the unwatchful eye.
Scan would find it, and maybe it would do what the inix does, moves its legs now and then and make some noise, but a person two rooms away wouldn't be able to notice that.
Thoughts?

[Mr.B]

I don't think so. Just because you slap a kank with a camo blanket does not mean it will disappear to the watchful eye. "The watchful eye" of desert critters' senses are mostly very, very keen. Take Gith for example, or Desert Elves. They live, sleep, breathe the desert and would easily spot something as large as a kank skuttling around with something on top of it, desert camo or not, unless the rider in question was particularly clever or resourceful. If you want to be extra stealthy in the desert, here's a tip. Ditch the kanks, erdlus, jakhals, bahamets, whatever.. and stick to good ole hands, feet and any cover you can muster. Unless your a half-giant, you'll be far more stealthy without a kank bleating at your back.

[My 2 sids]

For reasons a -normal- person would want a kank in their tent... why not just figure out some way to code the kank attached to the tent?  Realisticly, one could have long enough reins or something where they can keep an eye on their kank.

[j0ram]

Kanks are damned big.

http://www.j0ram.net/argosy.gif

It's a bit hard to see, there's a mounted kank on the right side. It's enough to provide scale, along with some erdlu and mekillot's, a pimped out argosy.

[Quo]

You think ... smells like critter around here...
With an expression of disgust you say in gibberish "Sands! Kank turds!"
Someone waves with one of his many antennae.
You stumble into a dune, which twists and opens a huge insectoid facet eye hovering over you.

[The7DeadlyVenomz]

The pimply-faced tamplar has the following animals for sale:
...
05) a desert-camoflage painted kank for 900 coins
...

buy 5
hitch kank
title kank HUM-V

[some time later, on a ubiquitous desert dune]

dismount

emote looks around.

think Now where the fuck did I put my kank?

I'm fucking cracking up, man. That was fucking funny!

[Carnage]

I don't think so. Just because you slap a kank with a camo blanket does not mean it will disappear to the watchful eye. "The watchful eye" of desert critters' senses are mostly very, very keen. Take Gith for example, or Desert Elves. They live, sleep, breathe the desert and would easily spot something as large as a kank skuttling around with something on top of it, desert camo or not, unless the rider in question was particularly clever or resourceful. If you want to be extra stealthy in the desert, here's a tip. Ditch the kanks, erdlus, jakhals, bahamets, whatever.. and stick to good ole hands, feet and any cover you can muster. Unless your a half-giant, you'll be far more stealthy without a kank bleating at your back.

He said having it in a resting position, which would make it immobile except for respiration and small things such as antennae wiggling. At a distance, it looks like nothing but a dune, but up close you know that there's something alive.

[ashjpd]

Thanks Carnage.    Finaly someone is sticking up for me!! :wink:

[wardor]

I do not like the idea of taking your kank in a tent because kank thieves are fucking cool.  but...

I do think that it is reasonable to want to take a kank in a tent with you.  If your character has had that kank a long time it would be similar to having a horse in RL.  If you pay for a horse/kank you are going to want to take care of it.  Some people even consider their horse as a friend.  Realistically some people would bring a horse in a tent so why not bring a kank in a tent.

Code wise bad idea because it would be abused by people who just wanted their kank to get stamina back faster.

[Larrath]

Because kanks are a lot bigger than horses.

That's really everything there is to it, a kank can hold a half-giant and carry it a good distance.  A horse's back will probably break if a half-giant sat on it...a kank is bigger than a horse.  Hell, an erdlu is about as big as a horse, a kank is like...four times as big?  I always imagined kank riding to be kinda like elephant riding...you ride on the head of something really big.

[Sakra]

Kank's break if Half-giants sit on them. Only inix and larger size beasts can carry them.

[Carnage]

Thanks Carnage.    Finaly someone is sticking up for me!! :wink:

It's not sticking up for you, it's for the idea. It has its merits and I like it. In a primitive world like Zalanthas, people would want every bit of camouflage they could get in the desert.

[X-D]

Heh, yea, the half-giant could carry the kank easy though:)

[Angela Christine]

Getting stamina back faster isn't abuse of a tent, it is the primary purpose of the tent.  That is why you carry a tent instead of just rolling up in your sturdy sandcloth cloak.

Any tent which has an opening big enough to admit a half-giant should be big enough to admit at least the smaller mounts like sunback lizards and erdlus.  Sunbacks and erdlus are larger then men, but not larger than half-giants.  (Can some half-giant go assess -v an erldu and sunback to confirm this for me?  Thanks.)  If possible, tents should do a size check.  Half-giants should not be able to enter small tents, and some animals should be able to enter very large tents.

Half-giants are usually potty trained, and most animals are not, so you might not want animals in your tent.  However, due to a direct question, I have been pondering Zalanthan fecal matter lately.  :twisted:  It will depend partly on what the subject has been eating, carnivores produce much fouler, smellier fecal matter than herbavores.  So sunback lizards and other carnivorous mounts will make stinker manure than inix do, and omnivourous scavenging mounts that eat anything will be somewhere in between.  Regardless of diet, the fecal matter of desert creatures is smaller and drier than that of similar sized non-desert creatures.  Don't take my word for it, go get yourself a mouse and a gerbil, in seperate cages.  Gerbils are adapted for desert life, so even when they have unlimited water available they will produce less urine and smaller poops than same-size mice.  As it happens, dryer poops are also less smelly than wet ones.

How does this apply to indoor mounts?  When they poop inside the tent (and they likely will) their droppings will be smaller and drier than, say, a horse.  The smell factor will be related to diet.  It shouldn't be too hard to scoop up the poops, because they won't be wet splats like you get from horses and cows, then you just toss or roll them out the doorway.  The animals themself probably don't smell worse than the humanoids they travel with.  I've only had close contact with a few birds and lizards, and I've never sniffed an insect, but they didn't seem to have a strong body odour compared to sweaty, warm-blooded mammals.  
Getting under shelter with your horse or mule isn't uncommon for earth humans in harsh environments.  Why wouldn't you want to get your trusty mount out of the storm, if you could?  


Angela Christine

[drunkendwarf]

Bad idea. Give Desert Elves something to steal, I say!

Problem is, you can hitch a kank, rest it, enter a tent and still have it hitched to you...making it impossible for that stealthy d-elf lurking behind a nearby dune to haul-ass up, snag the kank and haul-ass off even tho the human is resting comfortably inside the tent..kank thievery is near impossible out in the wastes as it is...only if you get the PC to move a room *away* from their kank, while it's resting, will the kank finally become unhitched and available for theft.

As far as a kank inside a tent..well, I think the idea is a bit absurd, unless it's one bigass tent...but something I've always wondered is..why does it ALWAYS have to be a tent? All you really need to create some shade is material over your head, and possibly blocking one direction. Why can't there be something like a tarp, and some wooden poles? I've always thought SOMEONE woulda come up with some way to create some shade for their kank, even if it was as crude as jabbing a few poles into the ground, and draping a large, sandcloth tarp over it to create a roof, and a wall in one direction to block out the sun. Voila, shade for you AND yer little kank. Sure, wouldn't do much to protect against weather, but codewise maybe just have it add 'shade' to the room for regen purposes, instead of the indoor regen a tent gives.

[ashjpd]

Nice idea drunkendwarf, I like it, maybe you or someone else can send the item description and stuff to the staff, if no one else will, I will work on it next Saturday when arm is down.

[Angela Christine]

Bad idea. Give Desert Elves something to steal, I say!

Problem is, you can hitch a kank, rest it, enter a tent and still have it hitched to you...making it impossible for that stealthy d-elf lurking behind a nearby dune to haul-ass up, snag the kank and haul-ass off even tho the human is resting comfortably inside the tent.

That isn't completely true.  Yes, you can enter some objects without becoming unhitched, but it isn't a "solid" hitch.  Much as it pains me to reveal this little quirk to the unwashed masses, I suppose I have to.  A kank hitched to someone who isn't in the room stays hitched, but anyone else can come along and take the kank anyway.  Just for fun I once mounted a kank while the hitched owner was inside a shop tent, I think he got a message that someone mounted his kank because he rushed out of the tent, but the "loose" hitch didn't prevent me from mounting.  I've also had a kank stollen from me while I was inside an object yet still hitched, but I was also asleep so I didn't get a messge.  Heck, once I got arrested while hitched to a kank, despite the fact that the kank was standing inside the gates and I was all the way over in the prison, I didn't become unhitched until after I was released from jail and took a step on my own.

The "loose" hitch is convient since it saves you from having to re-hitch, but you don't get the benefits of a full hitch.  It isn't thief proof.  If you are hitched to a mount but not in the same room with it, then it will not quit out with you.  

As far as a kank inside a tent..well, I think the idea is a bit absurd, unless it's one bigass tent.

What if it isn't a kank or an inix, but instead a sunback or erdlu?  They aren't exactly tiny either, but are much smaller than a kank.

All you really need to create some shade is material over your head, and possibly blocking one direction. Why can't there be something like a tarp, and some wooden poles?

Like a lean-to?  Cool.


AC

[drunkendwarf]

Like a lean-to? Cool.
AC

Gah, SURE...if you want to be clear and concise about it.

Nice idea drunkendwarf, I like it, maybe you or someone else can send the item description and stuff to the staff, if no one else will, I will work on it next Saturday when arm is down.

Knock yourself out on that one..I'm not much for the fancy wordin'. See above.