Have You Ever Seen Elven Noble?

Started by Gaare, May 04, 2015, 09:41:53 AM

Post is a bit detrailled. I actually got my answer, but this is an interesting subject and I wish to continue.

Local Aristocracy is very foreign to many developed countries, and cultures. When one calls noble, it usually flashes images of  castles, estates, tens, hundreds of servants, soldiers, etc. Actually, nobles do not have to own huge properties or rule over thousands. To a foreigner, one may look like an ordinary person in sense of money, power but it can be higher born in its society and still recieve a lot of privileges. Even today, I know groups of people whose leaders came from same family for centuries. Iraq is a good example. Masoud Barzani, President of Northern Kurdi-Iraq is actually leader of Barzani Clan. There are many clans even today which are not recognized or protected by local goverments but still continue in existance. And leader families of those clans recieve some respect, just because of their family name.

Of course things are very different in Zalanthas. On the other hand, I can think only one way, how there can't be any city elf nobles/highborns (I opened this thread when I got excited and begin reading some Dark Sun material after Patuk's city elf tribe post). That is; In some distant past somehow Tek, Utep managed to completely destroy city elf noble bloodlines, and still Templarate closely monitors if any elven family gains some level of respect over others and destroys that family. Ah, one may ask "so let's say an elf is a noble within his people. So what would be his priviliages?" I really don't know the answer. There are many people here, know about Zalanthian elven culture much more than me around, but I suppose if nothing else that certain elf noble would make friends much easier. Even make easier connection with other parts of population. Or at simplist, can get any lover with ease.
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Tek and Muk don't seek out and destroy offensive noble bloodlines.  Tek and Muk are the ones that create them.  Your house isn't noble until they say so, and if they decide your house is no longer noble, it isn't.

As for elves, inside his tribe he might show great respect for his tribal elders and leaders, but there's no way any elf would be venerated among the entire elven race.  Your tribe is what matters.  Other tribes, even other elven tribes, can go screw themselves.

What moe said. Noble in Zalanthas is a sorc king t
thang.

I begin to think my English is probably worse then I thought. I used word 'noble' in real meaning(from some dictionary: of, relating to, or belonging to the highest social class). I did not mean members of Noble Class of City-States. Surely all noble houses of Allanak is consist entirely of human race. Who is called noble , who is not by state is defined by ultimately Sorcerer-Kings. Also even within human there is no noble of entire race. They are city-bound. 'naki Noble does not have any status within Tuluk, etc.

I was really talking about elves and some respected bloodlines, families, etc. within them. Apologies for any wrong wording.  :)
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In the second part of my post I was talking about elves too.

Elves do not have that kind of respect for bloodlines outside of their own tribe.

Obviously you were asking if anyone had seen such a thing, but in the two coded tribes I've been in, the documentation didn't suggest that there was such a thing, nor is it suggested in the docs for elves available to the public in the help files.  But, in principle, it doesn't seem impossible - so maybe there's a virtual tribe out there that has such a culture.  (I'll bet Patuk's tribe has his PC instituted as king-for-life.)
as IF you didn't just have them unconscious, naked, and helpless in the street 4 minutes ago

Find out IC?  ;D
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I don't see why the reaction.  I mean...have either of you played in the Haruch Kemad, or in any clan atmosphere that has multiple groups of elves crammed together into tight spaces with each other over the course of hundreds of years?
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Yeah.

You could say I've done that.
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Quote from: Malifaxis on May 05, 2015, 06:19:01 PM
Yeah.

You could say I've done that.
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Yeah.

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Quote from: Malifaxis on May 05, 2015, 06:04:38 PM
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Da, I have seen Elven Noble.

It was asshole Malifaxis played once.
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Quote from: Iiyola on May 04, 2015, 03:26:39 PM
Why yes, yes I have. In Tuluk. He was clad in silk and lived up in a fancy tower.

Even clad in silks and living in a fancy tower, she never considered herself a Noble.  ;).  Nobles are to be kept fat, happy and daily drained of excess sid. Kind of like escru. No self respecting necker would allow themselves to sink so low as to become a Noble.
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Here is your Elven Noble!

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+100. That is funny.
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There's a d-elf tribe that I see as elven nobility though since they fancy themselves the [insert IC info here]. Fun to play one like that.
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Where is that guy shaloooooonsh that ran all the delf tribes for years, he could answer this in seconds.
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Quote from: Asmoth on May 16, 2015, 07:35:30 PM
Where is that guy shaloooooonsh that ran all the delf tribes for years, he could answer this in seconds.
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