Childrensss

[ShaLeah]

No, Liz. No.

Liz needs to get virtually laid and become a virtual parent then maybe she can virtually get some understanding that vNPCs are property of the creator, not anyone else.

[greasygemo]

It is possible to have enough of a relationship / trust with another PC to share in the animation and I have had some really great times like this, (dad/mom PC duos, roomates, other family member PC's, etc) but in general, it is something that should be approached in a careful manner and likely not going to happen very often.

Generally you're not going to give actions to someone elses VNPC unless they make it pretty evident you're okay to do so. Interacting with it is one thing, but animating it is entirely another.

[PriestlySiren]

My next objective is to buy a child in game.

[Kismetic]

My next objective is to buy a child in game.

And junk it?

[PriestlySiren]

My next objective is to buy a child in game.

And junk it?

No. And succinctly hand it to someone else and make them deal with it! Mayhem and Havoc!

[Kismetic]

My next objective is to buy a child in game.

And junk it?

No. And succinctly hand it to someone else and make them deal with it! Mayhem and Havoc!

Aw, Hell naw!  Baby's drama momma!

[Patuk]

I'm fairly sure the old docs on slavery at least had prices available right there..

[Zoan]

My next objective is to bury a child in game.

[manonfire]

Jeez, power-emoting someone else's vNPC.

Ridiculous.

[valeria]

Don't let the power emote battle make you decide against having vNPC childrensss for any reason.  This is apparently a very limited point of view, since I've never had anyone power emote at me (much less the extreme examples given). 

[The7DeadlyVenomz]

I feel it important to note: Liz wouldn't actually do any of this. She's being belligerent because she hates your VNPCs and your pet objects. But Liz isn't stupid - she wouldn't actually power-emote your VNPC. I think she'd just appreciate people remembering that those VNPCs and pet objects exist all the time, not just when it's fun to flaunt them.

I've known Liz long enough to guess that this was the actual point of her post.

[The Lonely Hunter]

My PC exists all of the time to, not just when I am logged in to animate him. Just saying.

[ShaLeah]

I feel ya. I hate pets too. I once saw a pet owner power emote how the pet attacked another player. The other player took it well, played along, there became a hatred with that pet. I don't know how realistic it became to continue that hatred but it got old after about three real life days of watching the hawk attack the person who would have killed it had it been a tok pup. I don't know if it being "someone else's object" stopped him. I know that's what stopped me.

[Desertman]

Once saw a staff animated gith eat someone's pet songbird.

That is all I have to contribute.

It was hilarious.

[Delirium]

>craft songbird into roasted songbird

[Rahnevyn]

If another player's vNPC is becoming significant enough to a plot that you think you might want to kill or kidnap or be hostile to it in some way, let staff know. We might be able to accommodate your plan.

I'm fairly certain the comment about hiddenly stealing someones vnpc kid with a power-semote was facetious anyway, but please don't do that.

[3kanks]

I've had a rather nice experience recently with other players participating in bringing to life my vnpc child. I was really unsure that I really wanted to explore this avenue of rp. Others have pitched in with bringing the kid to life, intervening in discipline, telling my PC what the kid gets up to behind their back. It makes me glad I went with it.

[Malken]

One of my PC's virtual bebe was kidnapped by either a Faithful or a GHM agent once (still not sure about that) and they demanded the bebe's mama in exchange for his life. Since the bebe's mama was batshit crazy, I gladly accepted the deal. (not that I really wanted the bebe back either, but still..)

It was all Staff-approved and such, though. Good times.

[ShaLeah]

>craft songbird into roasted songbird

Please!

[Delirium]

Try it sometime...

[ShaLeah]

Try it sometime...

Ohhhhhh

[Lizzie]

I feel it important to note: Liz wouldn't actually do any of this. She's being belligerent because she hates your VNPCs and your pet objects. But Liz isn't stupid - she wouldn't actually power-emote your VNPC. I think she'd just appreciate people remembering that those VNPCs and pet objects exist all the time, not just when it's fun to flaunt them.

I've known Liz long enough to guess that this was the actual point of her post.

Exactly. I haven't posted once saying "If you do this, I will do that." I *have* posted a few times saying "I would WANT to do that.." or "it makes me want to.." or "it bugs me because YOU can do that...but I can't do this."

I don't hate the VNPCs or the pet objects. I hate the ridiculous RP that revolves - and doesn't revolve - around them.

[valeria]

I feel it important to note: Liz wouldn't actually do any of this. She's being belligerent because she hates your VNPCs and your pet objects. But Liz isn't stupid - she wouldn't actually power-emote your VNPC. I think she'd just appreciate people remembering that those VNPCs and pet objects exist all the time, not just when it's fun to flaunt them.

I've known Liz long enough to guess that this was the actual point of her post.

Exactly. I haven't posted once saying "If you do this, I will do that." I *have* posted a few times saying "I would WANT to do that.." or "it makes me want to.." or "it bugs me because YOU can do that...but I can't do this."

I don't hate the VNPCs or the pet objects. I hate the ridiculous RP that revolves - and doesn't revolve - around them.

I'm sorry if my previous post came off as an accusation.  It totally wasn't my intent to accuse you (or anyone else) of saying that you would do something power emotey.  My point was inelegantly expressed.  I've been around long enough to know that your posting was just you expressing yourself in your style.  And that these GDB threads tend to digress into discussions of minutia.

The reason for my post was that the new player who originally posted in this thread looking for advice may not be as familiar with the board personalities or the general evolution of GDB threads.  I didn't want them thinking that the power emoting stuff might actually happen if they chose to have a vNPC babeh.  I've never run across a single instance of egregious power emoting here, and my only point was this: people aren't actually going to power emote about someone's vNPC kid.

[Lizzie]

No offense taken. I was feeling like I was being misunderstood by a few of you actually, not just you.

The point still remains - there are at least some of us - though definitely -not- the vocal majority - who just really can't stand the "this is my VNPC, who I'll bring out when it's convenient, and who will conveniently cease to exist when something more interesting happens" kind of RP that often accompanies VNPC children.

So if you -do- plan on having a VNPC child, AND IF you don't want those of us who point out the ridiculousness of some folks who have them, then please play your VNPC believably. It doesn't have to be realistic. In fact, I'd love for you to -not- make it realistic. But do make it believable. Your child WILL shit, your child does NOT have disposable plastic-lined diapers, your child DOES get fed on demand because there is no refrigeration or pasteurization or baby formula. Your child WILL have bouts of screaming and puking, and the barracks ARE filled with really dangerous things and people that would be really dangerous and stupid to thrust a child into. If you RP that your child is being thrust into those situations anyway, EXPECT someone, at some point, to emote watching that toddler toddling over to a chest filled with razor-sharp blades, or race around as toddlers sometimes like to do, and run right into a pair of mercenaries beating the shit out of each other. And please emote out the consequences of such naturally inquisitive toddler behavior appropriately.

Also, please expect that your screaming, shitting, whining, toddling child will not be well-received by silken fancy nobility in the high-class bar, NOR at the bar where a merchant is *trying* to do business and make a profit, NOR in the spice den where people are trying to dope up and whore up. Bear in mind as well, pedophilia is not taboo in Armageddon. If you bring your toddler into a "pleasure den," expect some of the clientelle to be uncomfortably interested in your darling dimpled special snowflake. And, expect that your character shouldn't be surprised, since your character was stupid enough to bring them there in the first place.

RP this out accordingly with your VNPC treasure, because none of the rest of us are allowed to.

[Delirium]

This just in: Lizzie hates babby RP.