Engravements

[deathkamon]

I have a new idea for a possible new command the player could do. This command could allow players to engrave things on certain things once they learn some sort of skill for it. I was thinking of two different ways on how you could engrave something on an object. One is text, and the other is an image.

An example of text-based engraving: engravetext <language of engravement> <object>

After this command, the game could ask you to write the text of what you want to write as an engravement with a certain limit to how much you want on an object depending on the size of the object  (i.e.: For writing something on a spear pole, you could write a maximum of 100 characters. For a dagger, you could write only a maximum of about 5 characters.). Depending on how good your language and engravement skill is, it will determine how clear the writing is. When someone were to look at an engraved text on something, it would look like this:

(The main description of the object would be here)
You see a text written on (sdesc of object) in (Whatever language one put down as to engrave the text in. If the player doesn't know the language, it will just say 'an unknown language'):
(Here is where the text would be written that the player decided to write down in a separate paragraph)


For image-based text, one would type the command like this: engraveimage <object> <level of detail> <type of image> <how it is placed>

The player would then be able to have a list of different combinations of designs to put down given to them. As the engravement skill levels up, you can unlock better engravement combos. This would be the format of what the different combos could be:

level of detail                             type of image                                                                              how it is placed
 a scribbly (novice)                              a dune (novice)                                                                                    around (poles/spheres)
 a crude (apprentice)                          a humanoid (novice)                                                                              on (flat surface)
 a normal (journeyman)                       a marker point(novice)                                                                            in (containers)          
 a elaborate (advanced)                       a weapon (spear, sword etc.) (apprentice)
 an almost realistic (expert)                  an animal (apprentice)
                                                        a sand dune (apprentice)
                                                        an exterior image (journeyman)
                                                        a sun (journeyman)
                                                        a moon (journeyman)
                                                        a symbol (could be anything) (advanced)
                                                        a structure (tower, temple etc.) (advanced)
                                                        a vehicle (carts, wagons etc.) (advanced)
                                                        an interior image (expert)
                                                        a landscape (expert)
                                                        a close-up image of something (such as a headshot of someone) (expert)

One would see something like this when they look at the object (similar to when looking at a text-based engravement):
(main description of object)
Engraved on (sdesc of object) is (level of detail) image of (type of image) (how the image is placed) (sdesc of object)

[Lizzie]

Engraving text isn't something commoners would be capable of doing. Commoners are illiterate and can't read -or- write. I don't know that nobles would ever want to learn how to engrave text on items - seems the interest in that would be pretty limited, and creating a system to allow for it would be catering to a pretty significant minority of people. A niche demographic, within a niche skillset, in a niche RPG. We're talking maybe - five people in a 1-real-year period, MIGHT a) want to and b) be literate enough to do something like that.

People can already do master crafting, which includes making blades that have engraving on them. There's also an "engraver" NPC in Allanak who does very limited work and only with specific items.

[picklehead]

OP is talking about engraving images, not text.

[MeTekillot]

This is a masterwork bone longsword. On the bone longsword is an image of a dragon and dwarves. The dragon is breathing fire. The dwarves are panicking. It menaces with spikes of obsidian.

[racurtne]

This is a masterwork bone longsword. On the bone longsword is an image of a dragon and dwarves. The dragon is breathing fire. The dwarves are panicking. It menaces with spikes of obsidian.

I'm convinced. It needs cabochons of ash, though.

[deathkamon]

Maybe if something like that could be like 'look <object>'s engravement'

[slvrmoontiger]

Maybe if something like that could be like 'look <object>'s engravement'

It would actually be examine <object> engravement...

[The7DeadlyVenomz]

I like the idea.

[Lizzie]

OP is talking about engraving images, not text.

From the OP:

An example of text-based engraving: engravetext <language of engravement> <object>

After this command, the game could ask you to write the text of what you want to write as an engravement with a certain limit to how much you want on an object depending on the size of the object  (i.e.: For writing something on a spear pole, you could write a maximum of 100 characters. For a dagger, you could write only a maximum of about 5 characters.). Depending on how good your language and engravement skill is, it will determine how clear the writing is. When someone were to look at an engraved text on something, it would look like this:

(The main description of the object would be here)
You see a text written on (sdesc of object) in (Whatever language one put down as to engrave the text in. If the player doesn't know the language, it will just say 'an unknown language'):
(Here is where the text would be written that the player decided to write down in a separate paragraph)

Bold emphasis mine.

I have no opinion about the image engraving, other than to mention that something like that is available in-game. As food for thought for anyone who -does- have an opinion on it. I've never made use of the in-game engraving service because it just doesn't interest me. It was only the first part of the OP's post that I had a concern about.

[Molten Heart]

How does this enhance the role-play environment of the game?

[Jingo]

Nothing wrong with engraving text.

...If you know how to write.

[The7DeadlyVenomz]

How does this enhance the role-play environment of the game?

By adding new features that can be used while you are roleplaying your character?

I'm not even sure how to take your query.

[Zoan]

This is a masterwork bone longsword. On the bone longsword is an image of a dragon and dwarves. The dragon is breathing fire. The dwarves are panicking. It menaces with spikes of obsidian.

*thumbsup*

[Molten Heart]

How does this enhance the role-play environment of the game?

By adding new features that can be used while you are roleplaying your character?

I'm not even sure how to take your query.

When we break it down and explaining how new features enhance the game world and players role-play, staff are more likely to get excited and implement them.

[racurtne]

This is like tattoos for your items. It gives the option for you to show people what kind of character your character is, or at least to show what kind of person they want people to think they are. It can also show who all the try-hards are. 

As expressed by the OP, I think we should definitely have the options hard-coded and tied to skill-level. It's quite a bit of work, but it's also rather neat. It brings a level of personalization to otherwise mundane items. Masters could submit more complex alterations, possibly changing the sdesc of the item as well, so this would be more apparent. A simple "engraved" would suffice for most. Or would all engraved items have that? If they did, then perhaps "expertly engraved" could be used to differentiate.

[RogueGunslinger]

I love the idea of engraving shit. It's a good idea.

[X-D]

How it can enhance RP...long as you make engraving a one time thing.

Least if it gets stolen you can actually point it out...Stolen...one sword engraved with cute gimpka and vestric...HEY...that breed has my sword!

[deathkamon]

I think that if an engravement skill is added, there should be certain guilds/subguilds who should have a slight bonus to the skill.

[Fujikoma]

I definitely think engraving would be a great thing to be able to do. Maybe make some engravings increase the value of the item while others decrease it.

Also, I'm not sure the skill should be confined to crafting guilds/subguilds, but maybe they get a bonus or something. It would be nice if it were a neat little hobby someone could pick up, from engraving a crude phallus on their longsword, or a crude stick figure with large circles representing boobs on a bit of stone or a wall, working their way up to more elaborate engravings on more complicated materials very slowly over time.

[long live miley cyrus]

So long as people treat it as the time-consuming and difficult task it is, unless they really enjoy it or its a good addition to their image or uniform, that way you don't start seeing a third of all engravable items with engravings on them as though they were scribbles.

I'm possibly biased. It feels like the hardest damn thing in the world to carve a few words into a block of softwood with a carving knife. It reminds me of learning to play a guitar. You're not going to learn to do more than make noise unless its something you really like doing.

Does anyone carve/engrave to a serious extent?

[RogueGunslinger]

So long as people treat it as the time-consuming and difficult task it is, unless they really enjoy it or its a good addition to their image or uniform, that way you don't start seeing a third of all engravable items with engravings on them as though they were scribbles.

I'm possibly biased. It feels like the hardest damn thing in the world to carve a few words into a block of softwood with a carving knife. It reminds me of learning to play a guitar. You're not going to learn to do more than make noise unless its something you really like doing.

Does anyone carve/engrave to a serious extent?

You realize we can already craft incredibly intricate and detailed things from all sorts of materials, right? Engraving can't be any harder than that.

[QuillDipper]

Engraving seems awesome. I have so many things I'd want to engrave.

>steal sword amos
>engrave sword phallis symbol
>plant sword amos

[whitt]

>steal sword amos
>engrave sword phallis symbol
>plant sword amos

Lol!

[senseofeven]

Engraving seems awesome. I have so many things I'd want to engrave.

>steal sword amos
>engrave sword phallis symbol
>plant sword amos

+1!

[TheWanderer]

Engraving seems awesome. I have so many things I'd want to engrave.

>steal sword amos
>engrave sword phallis symbol
>plant sword amos

May House Phallis and its sigil spread far and wide.