What happens if a Human and a Half-Elf have a child?

Started by Michael, April 21, 2013, 06:14:24 PM

Does it make some kind of new breed or does not do really anything or does it make a human?

Up to the player, I'd say.
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Quote from: Patuk on April 21, 2013, 06:18:36 PM
Up to the player, I'd say.

No it's not, it certainly does not make a human, a breed that has a child with a human will make a breed.

If breed after breed in that family keeps mating with humans, then eventually there might be less discerning features, but there will always remain something breedy about them.

Let's not use this as an excuse to give players the old "Well, I'm a human and I love you, breedy baby, if we make a child together, it will be human just like his Papa and we can all be happy together!" crap.
"When I was a fighting man, the kettle-drums they beat;
The people scattered gold-dust before my horse's feet;
But now I am a great king, the people hound my track
With poison in my wine-cup, and daggers at my back."

In chargen you can make a half elf and choose an option to appear as either an elf or a human.

The option for human-looking-but-actually-a-half-elf-by-blood roleplay is built right into the code.

(Appearing as an elf and then riding around on an inix is fun for all the weird looks and hate you get.)
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(I'm being tongue in cheek and it's really a silly answer. Though there's some truth in there. Mostly though, welcome to Arm.)
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1/3rd elf is still a breed.
I remember recruiting this Half elf girl. And IMMEDIATELY taking her out on a contract. Right as we go into this gith hole I tell her "Remember your training, and you'll be fine." and she goes "I have no training." Then she died

Quote from: Malken on April 21, 2013, 06:36:22 PM
Quote from: Patuk on April 21, 2013, 06:18:36 PM
Up to the player, I'd say.

No it's not, it certainly does not make a human, a breed that has a child with a human will make a breed.

If breed after breed in that family keeps mating with humans, then eventually there might be less discerning features, but there will always remain something breedy about them.

Let's not use this as an excuse to give players the old "Well, I'm a human and I love you, breedy baby, if we make a child together, it will be human just like his Papa and we can all be happy together!" crap.

Point. Taken.
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You take the last bite of your scooby snack.
This tastes like ordinary meat.
There is nothing left now.

Someone will have to pay the blood price.

Plus - any breed blood = breed.

It is unbelievable to me how many pass-for-human breeds are walking around in the game right now.

Not trolling: I mean, if you saw forty pieces of cheese stacked together on a plate rather than just two, you'd notice that too.

Quote from: Fredd on April 21, 2013, 07:07:08 PM
1/3rd elf is still a breed.

I kinda know what you mean but I wonder how a person could become literally one-third breed.

Its possible, right? If partial breeds have kids in the correct order with the correct percentage of dna?

Quote from: The Silence of the Erdlus on April 22, 2013, 12:24:04 AM
I kinda know what you mean but I wonder how a person could become literally one-third breed.

Its possible, right? If partial breeds have kids in the correct order with the correct percentage of dna?

It is possible to reach odd fractions of breeding, yes, though, whether it's a contiguous third or two separate sub-fractions totaling a third is debatable. Bottom line is, I like that the code supports this possibility.

Quote from: The Silence of the Erdlus on April 22, 2013, 12:24:04 AM
It is unbelievable to me how many pass-for-human breeds are walking around in the game right now.

Not trolling: I mean, if you saw forty pieces of cheese stacked together on a plate rather than just two, you'd notice that too.

Quote from: Fredd on April 21, 2013, 07:07:08 PM
1/3rd elf is still a breed.

I kinda know what you mean but I wonder how a person could become literally one-third breed.

Its possible, right? If partial breeds have kids in the correct order with the correct percentage of dna?

I was just using it in the general sense of Elf fucks human, makes breed. Breed fucks human and makes 1/3rd breed.

Not sure what that would actually be. But it seems like 1/3rd
I remember recruiting this Half elf girl. And IMMEDIATELY taking her out on a contract. Right as we go into this gith hole I tell her "Remember your training, and you'll be fine." and she goes "I have no training." Then she died

That'd be a 1/4th Breed if I'm not mistaken, but now we have a way of slipping fractions into our Zalanthan Math Primer!

Quote from: The Silence of the Erdlus on April 22, 2013, 12:24:04 AM
It is unbelievable to me how many pass-for-human breeds are walking around in the game right now.

I see a lot of breeds that are subtle breeds - the shape of eyes or ears mentioned in main desc but not short desc.  Is that what you mean? If so, the fault lies with the reader, I think.  As someone who plays a lot of "this and that half-elf or half-breed" I admit I don't see a ton of sdesc breeds, but plenty of the other.  I don't think that's bad.

Meh. I go by roleplay standards, not coded.

If someone is codedly human but they're tall, have 'long muscular legs' or something like that in their description, and they move quickly - I'm going to say, "Hey! That fucker has necker blood!"
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I've heard when an elf and a breed mate, you get gith.
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With enough human blood, I don't think that you'd be able to tell she is a breed.  Once you get out to 1/8th or whatever, the character might not even be able to tell she's a breed.  Why?  Because who's going to want to admit that great-grandma kanked or was raped by a breed?
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Quote from: The Silence of the Erdlus on April 22, 2013, 12:24:04 AM
It is unbelievable to me how many pass-for-human breeds are walking around in the game right now.

I see a lot of breeds that are subtle breeds - the shape of eyes or ears mentioned in main desc but not short desc.  Is that what you mean? If so, the fault lies with the reader, I think.  As someone who plays a lot of "this and that half-elf or half-breed" I admit I don't see a ton of sdesc breeds, but plenty of the other.  I don't think that's bad.


Yeah, it ain't bad or nothing. It does pose a sort of fleeting question of whether I as a pc who has read the mdesc ought to notice or not and 100% of the time I choose not to really. I talked about a potentially socially damning or damaging thing I saw in a person's mdesc one time, which had about five words in the mdesc to its name, and they got defensive about it, so now I just sort of leave it to those pcs to decide if they want their almond eyes noticed.

Quote from: valeria on April 22, 2013, 07:55:33 AM
With enough human blood, I don't think that you'd be able to tell she is a breed.  Once you get out to 1/8th or whatever, the character might not even be able to tell she's a breed.  Why?  Because who's going to want to admit that great-grandma kanked or was raped by a breed?

I've played one of these before. Made her such a severely racist human too. Also made it so that someone reading my mdesc could fit two and two together but in an age without readily available mirrors there'd be no way I myself could do that. It was fucking awesome.

Quote from: Fujikoma on April 22, 2013, 07:41:36 AM
I've heard when an elf and a breed mate, you get gith.

This isn't true (if anybody was wondering)

But it is a good joke, I might use that in game.
Child, child, if you come to this doomed house, what is to save you?

A voice whispers, "Read the tales upon the walls."

Quote from: Fujikoma on April 22, 2013, 07:41:36 AM
I've heard when an elf and a breed mate, you get gith.

My PC was just joking when he told you that....
;D

But on the other hand, when a PC mates with your mother ...
"When I was a fighting man, the kettle-drums they beat;
The people scattered gold-dust before my horse's feet;
But now I am a great king, the people hound my track
With poison in my wine-cup, and daggers at my back."

Quote from: Refugee on April 22, 2013, 11:49:25 AM
Quote from: Fujikoma on April 22, 2013, 07:41:36 AM
I've heard when an elf and a breed mate, you get gith.

My PC was just joking when he told you that....
;D

Hee-hee... Yeah, I know, was a good joke, couldn't help but throw it in...  ;)
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The line where your mixed-blood PC transitions from being a coded breed to being a coded human/elf is entirely up to you.

Quote from: Lancer on April 22, 2013, 01:23:17 AM
That'd be a 1/4th Breed if I'm not mistaken, but now we have a way of slipping fractions into our Zalanthan Math Primer!

Assignment of genes is technically random, but since you have so many the law of averages is going to say you're pretty close to 1/4.

(.5+0)/2

In actuality it wouldn't work that way because biologically elves are humans and have many of the same genes. Like probably 99% or something, so you'd end up 99.75% human and 99.25% elf.

Humans share 99.9% of the same genes. Elves can breed with them and produce viable offspring.

So, figure, barely outside the realm of human variation. 99.85%?
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Don't forget people. Once your lines are tainted with elf blood it doesn't matter if for generations after you and yours -don't- kank a longneck, there will be that ONE chance that your whelp's ears will be pointed just a weeeeee little bit.
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