> k Templar

[lordcooper]

I'm gonna be extremely conscious of how people nod for the next few days

[Delirium]

>look lordcooper
>nod

[Case]

Why "kill" or "look" when "keyword" obviously comes before either?

If it was strictly alphabetical, "kill" would come before "kiss."

And "kank" has them both beat.

Warning, spoiler code answer:

It depends on the underlying code.

There's three 'normal' ways a text command list is implemented and all three can create this non-alphabetic-matching outcome:

1. arbitrary order (typically order of implementation or just by whim) in which to get our end result, kiss has occurred prior to any other 'k' match. SOI does this, I imagine DIKU does being C.

2. hash table order. This means the list of commands are stored as effectively random numbers in memory, and these are generated from a string from a mathematical function. When this table is queried, the query is converted and the result is checked against previously stored numbers for a match. An abbreviation search will not work in this form because 'kill' and 'k' would be very different numbers, so 'k' would have to be in the list. What the coder matches 'k' to would be what results. Futuremud C++ did this (I know because I wrote it way back when)

3. gatekept order. It's possible the command path is searching two lists, one after the other, socials and commands. If socials is searched first, 'k' will trigger on 'kiss', but 'kill' will fail the social list but have a hit on the command list. The lists could be using either method 1 or 2 but due to splitting the lookup into 2, either commands or socials could be checked first.

[Orin]

I find it unbelievably hard to care about this.

[Barsook]

Awesome and yeah, thanks for that.

[spicemustflow]

[brytta.leofa]

3. gatekept order. It's possible the command path is searching two lists, one after the other, socials and commands. If socials is searched first, 'k' will trigger on 'kiss', but 'kill' will fail the social list but have a hit on the command list. The lists could be using either method 1 or 2 but due to splitting the lookup into 2, either commands or socials could be checked first.

I'm thinking that this is what Circle does. Don't recall for sure.

[lordcooper]

Man, people nod way too much IRL.

[TheBadSeed]

Man, people nod way too much IRL.

say (with a quick nod to LordCooper) I agree

[Bogre]

The figure in a red, hooded templar's robe says, his one good eye a dull white orb in the flickering torchlight, his voice the rustling slither of a snake in dry reeds, in sirihish,
   "Kiss them all."

snicker

[Marauder Moe]

Given how many people, including myself, do >alias k key immediately with a new character, and given the infrequency of the usage of the kiss social, I think making this a default alias/priority/whatever seems like a no-brainer.

[knewage1]

This is somewhat of a derail, but purely out of curiosity, does anybody know if typing "kiss me" gives an echo?

[Morgenes]

I've swapped it so that keyword is used instead of kiss.

[Ender]

I've swapped it so that keyword is used instead of kiss.

[Maso]

I've swapped it so that keyword is used instead of kiss.

[FantasyWriter]

>give more.Guinness Morgenes

[BadSkeelz]

I've swapped it so that keyword is used instead of kiss.

This doesn't go in till the next reboot, right? Glad I tried to key .something that wasn't animate...

[Shepard]

WAIT!

So now, because of a few cry babies, I have to type kISS templar now!? It was so much easier when I just did k templar!

OMG!

AHHH!

RAGE QUIT THIS GAME NOW!

[X-D]

I admit to liking this change.

[Spoon]

Also makes it even easier to keyword things, which people should do all the time to avoid mis-firing emotes etc.

[FantasyWriter]

WAIT!

So now, because of a few cry babies, I have to type kISS templar now!? It was so much easier when I just did k templar!

OMG!

AHHH!

RAGE QUIT THIS GAME NOW!

>alias k kiss


The short, beardless man ducks.