Consent

Started by The Lonely Hunter, August 12, 2012, 12:33:51 PM

Quote from: The Lonely Hunter on August 12, 2012, 12:47:57 PM
consentcheck = assess -c (the c variable being for consent)

I believe we suggested the same thing. A single command to check the status of consent.  :)

Lol, hmmmm, I think we did yes... Wait, you can use variables with assess? :o
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Yep. Try 'Asses -v amos' sometime.

Pretty sure -v is the only one... I may be mistaken.

Assess -v is the verbose command.  Help assess.

If that's the case, I could dig ass -v for verbose, and ass -c for consent, but I do think that there's a lot of good point about how as a player, I'm open to general types of roleplay most of the time, but that doesn't mean my character would be, nor does it mean that I can just now, so much as that I'm open to it.
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Maybe I'm roleplaying wrong, but I just don't see asking for consent as being this big game changer. It seems pretty low key. Applying our few skilled coders volunteer time to this seems like a waste to me.

Moreover, if I had to set consent to one thing or another, I'd certainly set it to off, and then I'd miss out on banging those few, really appealing PCs I so rarely encounter.

Quote from: path on August 12, 2012, 08:08:28 PM
Moreover, if I had to set consent to one thing or another, I'd certainly set it to off, and then I'd miss out on banging those few, really appealing PCs I so rarely encounter.

Except, their consent would be off, too, and it wouldn't matter.

So true. This could really cut down on mudsexxxxing altogether. You've just turned my vote, Kismetic. I'm suddenly feeling more favorable toward the deal.

And then, all the people with consent off, when behooved to require it, have to ask over OOC, anyway.

Do I win this thread?  For my prize, I want a torture scene in 30 emotes or less

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Quote from: Delirium on November 28, 2012, 02:26:33 AM
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I have no problem with the system as it stands now. In fact, I rather like seeing how enthusiastically people have given their consent for awfulness. Let's me RP with a cleaner conscience.

ooc Yeeeeeeees, finally, I'm going to get some!! ^_^ CONSENT GIVEN, ALSO, WANT TO MEET MY MOM?!
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Quote from: Malken on August 12, 2012, 11:49:15 PM
ooc Yeeeeeeees, finally, I'm going to get some!! ^_^ CONSENT GIVEN, ALSO, WANT TO MEET MY MOM?!

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Quote from: Delirium on November 28, 2012, 02:26:33 AM
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Quote from: BadSkeelz on August 12, 2012, 10:58:45 PM
I have no problem with the system as it stands now. In fact, I rather like seeing how enthusiastically people have given their consent for awfulness. Let's me RP with a cleaner conscience.

<thumbs up>
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Quote from: The Lonely Hunter on August 13, 2012, 01:09:17 AM
Quote from: BadSkeelz on August 12, 2012, 10:58:45 PM
I have no problem with the system as it stands now. In fact, I rather like seeing how enthusiastically people have given their consent for awfulness. Let's me RP with a cleaner conscience.

<thumbs up>

The lonely hunter and I have had a couple consent scenes... I highly encourage more need to ask for it. ;)
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No one on staff is just waiting for the opportunity to get revenge on someone who killed one of their characters years ago.

Except me. I remember every death. And I am coming for you bastards.

There is so much that can happen and so many things that people wouldn't mind participating in, but some things they would be against that you cannot have a generic flag for a category.

"Sex" means so many different possibilities.  Especially in Zalanthas.  Someone might be fine with humans mating with humans, but if you bring an elf into the mix its OVER! :0

Graphic Violence could mean any crazy amounts of things in Zalanthas.  Someone might be fine with minor torture(breaking someone's fingers for stealing) but they would not want to witness someone wrapping up intestines like a ball of yarn.

Also, if you find it jarring to have that minor bit of ooc consent conversation then why are you willing to spam an entirely OOC based command to check for people's consent flags in a tavern before even interacting with that character?  I try not to type equipment, score, stat and all that over and over again because it does detract from your immershunz.  I think adding another OOC based command to assess whether or not someone will sex you up is worse than one quick OOC: Consent to sex you up?

August 13, 2012, 11:29:23 AM #40 Last Edit: August 13, 2012, 11:34:04 AM by The Lonely Hunter
Quote from: AreteX on August 13, 2012, 07:21:38 AM

Also, if you find it jarring to have that minor bit of ooc consent conversation then why are you willing to spam an entirely OOC based command to check for people's consent flags in a tavern before even interacting with that character?  ... OOC: Consent to sex you up?

Why would you spam the command to check for people's consent flags in a tavern or check at any time when you normally wouldn't ask for consent? And yes maybe I am anal (consent?) but it seems like a trend to try and be funny when you have to use the OOC command, which is jarring to me. When I play a RPG, especially a RPI, I want my character to interact with yours, I don't want to interact with you.
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Quote from: The Lonely Hunter on August 13, 2012, 11:29:23 AM
but it seems like a trend to try and be funny when you have to use the OOC command, which is jarring to me.

Aww. That's me. :( I do that sometimes.

Sometimes though, I'm just really frank. But when you're talking about sex stuff especially in a really frank, concise manner...well...sometimes it's hard for it not to sound funny.
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Quote from: Delirium on November 28, 2012, 02:26:33 AM
I don't always act superior... but when I do it's on the forums of a text-based game

Yeeah, I pretty much always joke about it.  Otherwise, I'd have to take it seriously (and start cracking romance novels).  I guess it's hard for me to be jarred in such a way that ruins my experience.  You'd have to:  OOC hey guys where you from want to chat on aim??  ...  Which I've seen only once, thank god.

I know this may sound like blasphemy but there are other things besides sex that you need to get consent for  :P

Hell, I have only RPed out sex with two of my PCs that I can remember. I think it can be a cool tool for character development but that is a different thread all together.
"People survive by climbing over anyone who gets in their way, by cheating, stealing, killing, swindling, or otherwise taking advantage of others."
-Ginka

"Don't do this. I can't believe I have to write this post."
-Rathustra

I take those other things even less seriously than sex. Taking a half step back and laughing at the situation actually helps keep me from breaking character a moment later. It helps that I'm pretty much impervious to being jarred by OOC (aside from guilt of jarring others around here). Chalk it up to years of playing in settings where you're managing IC and OOC simultaneously.

Quote from: The Lonely Hunter on August 13, 2012, 01:32:16 PM
I know this may sound like blasphemy but there are other things besides sex that you need to get consent for  :P

Hell, I have only RPed out sex with two of my PCs that I can remember. I think it can be a cool tool for character development but that is a different thread all together.


Sure. I suppose my mind always swings to sex in these discussions because it's the only thing I would ask to fade. Torture etc is all just fine and dandy.
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Quote from: Delirium on November 28, 2012, 02:26:33 AM
I don't always act superior... but when I do it's on the forums of a text-based game

I'm against the system proposed for all the reasons people have already raised.  I do not recall ever encountering any problems with people being goofballs while using the OOC to go through consent issues but if I ever did, I'd just put in a player complaint.

I don't think this system would eliminate the need for OOC anyway since just because a player does not consent to play out sex or torture does not mean their PC's will not get into situations involving it and. except in the case of rape,  something will have happened which has to be described OOC'ly.  The other person in the scene (eg. the torturer) is still going to have to OOC what happened like "OOC: okay, so the torture lasted for about an hour and we cut off two fingers and broke your right arm".
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I could really use some more graphic violence in my game play.. Where are all the PC whack jobs anyway? I get more violence from tregils...
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Sigh, I haven't seen or been in a good torture scene in forever.
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