Ok, what do I do that /doesn't/ echo??

[greasygemo]

I thought "discuss" <NPC> doesn't echo, but it totally does... *facepalm*

what about these..? I've been in some situations where some of these appeared to echo..

weather
time
look (no emote attached or target)
assess <object>
look <self>
craft <object> (checking for crafting list available)
who
score
skill
stat
look/get/remove etc. <object> <target> (when the target is closed, object is not there or mistyped and it warns me)
nosave (either to show list or toggle something)
mercy <on/off>

Maybe I'm nuts.. but can anyone confirm that these do or do not echo when typed?

[Samoa]

what about these..? I've been in some situations where some of these appeared to echo..

weather

No echo.

time

No echo.

look (no emote attached or target)

With no target, no echo.

assess <object>

Has a chance to echo, based upon someone's perception, if you assess a person.

look <self>

No echo. assess <self> can echo, however.

craft <object> (checking for crafting list available)

No echo until you actually craft. Will rearrange item in your inventory or room to be the first instance of that item, however (so craft 5.sack will make 5.sack become 1.sack)

who

No echo.

score

No echo.

skill

No echo.

stat

No echo.

look/get/remove etc. <object> <target> (when the target is closed, object is not there or mistyped and it warns me)

No echo in these specific instances.

nosave (either to show list or toggle something)

No echo.

mercy <on/off>

No echo.

[Calavera]

As a general rule, most commands that are OOC in nature do not notice. That is to say, commands that exist to give you the player OOC information, i.e. score/stat/skills/who/time/weather. Commands that ICly give your character information, such as looking and assessing, sometimes do.

To my knowledge, everything that Samoa posted is correct!

[greasygemo]

Amazing! Thank You!

[Cind]

Try assess -v (pc or npc keyword). This doesn't echo and can be very funny when you use it on your mount or something.

[MeTekillot]

actually it does echo, cind.

[Cind]

actually it does echo, cind.

Ok, thanks. Wow, my stupid is on a roll today.

[jstorrie]

>look [object on person] - for example, >look templar's robes, does not echo. This can be very useful for quickly figuring out what clan uniforms or clan livery people are wearing, or what rank they are, etc.

[jstorrie]

Ok, thanks. Wow, my stupid is on a roll today.

You may have not noticed it in-game because assess is treated kind of like hemote - your perception skills are checked to see if your PC notices someone assessing someone.

[jstorrie]

sneak, walk, and run do not echo (when your character changes their movement speed) although they do change what people see when you enter or exit rooms.

They do echo when you use them while mounted, though, because in that case you're telling your mount to sneak, walk, or run - not yourself.

hide does not echo unless you fail very badly, in which case a perceptive PC might notice your attempt to hide.

scan echoes but listen does not.

analyze and value do not echo.

stand does not echo if you were already standing. This is useful because stand will break hide (and also reset your long description, I think.)

arrange echoes.

See also the helpfiles for sleight of hand, steal, and peek.

[Barsook]

Again because of this:

As a general rule, most commands that are OOC in nature do not notice. That is to say, commands that exist to give you the player OOC information, i.e. score/stat/skills/who/time/weather. Commands that ICly give your character information, such as looking and assessing, sometimes do.

To my knowledge, everything that Samoa posted is correct!

[jstorrie]

think echoes - to some of us. ooOOOoooooo

[RogueGunslinger]

hide does not echo.

Mind officially blown. I thought a failed hide attempt echoed.

[Bluefae]

Samoa, that's . . . kind of incredible that you knew the answers to all of those flawlessly.  Wow!   

[mansa]

Nevermind, I forget somethings

[MeTekillot]

A failed hide attempt echoes sometimes.

[Dar]

A failed hide attempt echoes sometimes.

Failed attempt echoes to everyone who noticed it, but 'not' you, yourself.

[Creslin]

Does "look <target>" echo if you are hidden?

[bcw81]

Does "look <target>" echo if you are hidden?

Not unless you append an emote to it.

[jstorrie]

A failed hide attempt echoes sometimes.

Is that only critical failures, perhaps? I've had PCs with maxed perception skills and never seen an echo from a PC failing to hide. Maybe people just don't try to hide around me.

[greasygemo]

does arrange echo?
Even if it is your inventory before you drop it?

[RogueGunslinger]

Arrange echo's. If the item is in your inventory when you drop-arrange it all they will see is the drop echo and any emote tacked onto it.

[Ktavialt]

In sort of a similar vein, how do sneak/hide work when one fails and one succeeds?

You succeed at hiding, fail at sneaking, are you revealed?  Does it say "Someone has arrived from the west."  Is hide checked each room?

[Riya OniSenshi]

In sort of a similar vein, how do sneak/hide work when one fails and one succeeds?

You succeed at hiding, fail at sneaking, are you revealed?  Does it say "Someone has arrived from the west."  Is hide checked each room?

http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,23353.0.html  - about hiding

[Ktavialt]

In sort of a similar vein, how do sneak/hide work when one fails and one succeeds?

You succeed at hiding, fail at sneaking, are you revealed?  Does it say "Someone has arrived from the west."  Is hide checked each room?

http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,23353.0.html  - about hiding

I already did all my homework to avoid having Nyr link a thread that already answered my question.  Read the thread you linked, it didn't really respond to it.

Also, 2006... was that before the change where sneak/hide would work to keep you hidden as you move around?