Discussion thread - Extended Subguilds

[Nyr]

will events occur IG to explain the increased interest in sorcery or not so much?

The answer to this has already been stated in this thread.

Just out of curiosity, if you use up a years spec apps does it reset a year after your first or last spec app?

your first. i don't recall the thread in which a staffy said this.

Apologies for the derail here:  there's no need to remember any one thread.  The only thing you need to remember how to do is how to use the advanced search tool.  Click on it, put what you want to search for there, and limit it to the appropriate subforums.  If you want to know staff position on it, limit the search to "Ask the Staff."  If you don't get results, rephrase the search a few times.  If you still don't get results, then you certainly should ask.  This is how many folks in the more technical fields search for answers on obscure problems and the like--knowing what to search for, where to search, and what to disregard.  It's a very good skill to develop.  Teach a man to fish, and what-not.

[MeTekillot]

I'm going to be really black and white about this and ask: If we spec-app something now and get it approved, will we be allowed to play it at our leisure, or will we have to store/lose our current PC at some time in the near future?

Any answers pertaining to a question of this nature have not been clear enough for me, you see.

[Nyr]

I had to dig to find it, but I did remember that we answered that yesterday.  I tried to:

http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,42570.msg654791.html#msg654791

and then adhira did:

Feel free to submit your special applications in advance, be aware that if you are intending to make them months down the track the coded system may come in to place before then.  If you're not intending to play your extended karma or take your skill bumps within the next month I highly recommend waiting till closer to the time as the coded process may well be in place.

Currently we try and resolve special applications within a month.  On the announcement thread I noted that special applications for extended subguilds or skill bumps will be resolved within a maximum of seven days.  I expect that most will be resolved within 2 days with the extra time needed for any correspondence re: set up times or queries.  This process should be relatively straight forward and simple.  Keep your applications within the boundaries (ie don't go asking for extras like mutant eyes, or super height) and there should be no problems with working through them.

So yeah, you can play it whenever you want to.

[jstorrie]

I have two quick questions because I haven't been around over the holidays -

a) At this point is the CGP use/regeneration system active? ie, would I be spending points on one of these, and would those points be regenerating at that 1/month rate?

b) Are karma races/classes also on the CGP use/regeneration system now?

[Yam]

I have two quick questions because I haven't been around over the holidays -

a) At this point is the CGP use/regeneration system active? ie, would I be spending points on one of these, and would those points be regenerating at that 1/month rate?

b) Are karma races/classes also on the CGP use/regeneration system now?

It isn't active yet and wont be for a while

[jstorrie]

So if you use CGP right now, what happens to them? Are they just adjusted manually for now?

[Yam]

Nope. Everything's the same but you can apply for the mundane extended subguilds via special app without losing any points/karma.

[Reiloth]

Sigh. I probably won't be able to use this until FAR after it's codedly implemented. Already have a special app approved and waiting for me after my current character bites the dust. Not that i'm complaining, more a sigh of longing...

[RogueGunslinger]

Nope. Everything's the same but you can apply for the mundane extended subguilds via special app without losing any points/karma.

I heard if you don't get denied you'll get the spec-app use back too. But, that might not be official staff opinion yet.

[LauraMars]

Not that I'm returning to play or anything...

<shifty gaze>

But if I had X number of karma before CGP were implemented, would that mean I have X number of CGP?

[Nyr]

I may have either stated incorrectly or been misunderstood (if it was me on Teamspeak), but if you successfully USE a special app (regardless of for a "regular" special app or one of these subguilds), you do indeed use the special app.

[RogueGunslinger]

I may have either stated incorrectly or been misunderstood (if it was me on Teamspeak), but if you successfully USE a special app (regardless of for a "regular" special app or one of these subguilds), you do indeed use the special app.

I -think- that's what I said.  Heh. I think...

But the point is you don't use it if your app gets denied for one of these new sub-guilds, right?

[Adhira]

Remember:

To keep the process streamlined while in the trial phase we will be allowing applications for either extended subguilds OR skill bumps.  The combination of the two will not be implemented at the beginning phase of this trial.

Also, I will endeavour in all cases not to decline special apps done via this process. If they need modification expect an email discussion on it, instead.

[Jingo]

Will you entertain special apps that go above eight karma?

Example: Nilazi: Master Trader?

Three for Master Trader. Six for Nilazi. That makes nine total.

[Adhira]

You need to have the karma for the guild you want.  Special apps for extended subguilds should be for those guilds only. 

[Jingo]

Burlgar/Outdoorsman

Or

Ranger/Rogue

I cannot decide.

[HavokBlue]

I was totally going to do a spec app for one of these until I realized it's not 3 spec-apps for each 12 month year, but rather 3 spec apps per 12 consecutive months. 

[AmandaGreathouse]

It looks like grebber could possibly forage food. Can they? That's the type of thing which would definitely make me swing one way or the other on two or three concepts knocking around in my head at the moment.

[Down Under]

You need to have the karma for the guild you want.  Special apps for extended subguilds should be for those guilds only. 

Would using the guild you want (Nilazi, in this example, at 6 karma) detract from your CGP to use? If you had 6 karma.

[John]

Would using the guild you want (Nilazi, in this example, at 6 karma) detract from your CGP to use? If you had 6 karma.

CGP currently don't exist. Pretend they were never mentioned. At the moment they're using the standard special app rules which are completely different.

If you hate the idea of CGP but like the idea of the extended subguilds, app one of the extended subguilds now and you won't have to deal with CGP AND still get to have the extended subguild that you want.

[solera]

Outdoors...man.  No skin?

[Zoan]

I was totally going to do a spec app for one of these until I realized it's not 3 spec-apps for each 12 month year, but rather 3 spec apps per 12 consecutive months. 

Not true, I put in a spec app on the second day of the year and I have mine free.

[Down Under]

Would using the guild you want (Nilazi, in this example, at 6 karma) detract from your CGP to use? If you had 6 karma.

CGP currently don't exist. Pretend they were never mentioned. At the moment they're using the standard special app rules which are completely different.

If you hate the idea of CGP but like the idea of the extended subguilds, app one of the extended subguilds now and you won't have to deal with CGP AND still get to have the extended subguild that you want.

Right. I'm saying when CGP goes in.

[HavokBlue]

I wish, but the request tool doesn't lie.





Or does it?

[jstorrie]

I think that Allanaki templar, Jihaen templar, and Lirathan templar should all be special (mandatory and 0 CGP) extended subguilds for those roles, rather than those roles having guilds to which one applies a subguild. I'd like to see more variety among those sort of PCs.