How to Guide for Using Breeds (and how not to)

[My 2 sids]

I don't get why racist people IG would hate breeds more than the full blood members of their least favorite race.

Because it's societal upbringing.  A breed personifies one of the most stomach-turning, taboo events in Zan -- relations between elves and human, often rape  -- thus, it's easy for people to turn their rage against breeds.   Naturally, rather than address the issue of elven roles in society, or keeping folks safe from rape the Templarate keep peoples anger and expectation on the breeds.

[Saellyn]

I think people are afraid to make effect, in regards to anyone (breeds included) because folks will jump the pk trigger and whack your ass if they get the chance to do it.

That said, it's totally okay to piss on a breed sitting at the bar. I'm not saying I've done it, but go ahead!

[My 2 sids]

I think people are afraid to make effect, in regards to anyone (breeds included) because folks will jump the pk trigger and whack your ass if they get the chance to do it.

Agreed.  Every PC is connected in game -- there's no way just to "irritate" someone or just have a one-time issue because everything eventually snow-balls into PK-able offense.

So, as long as I want my PC alive -- they have to kiss ass with every gemmer/breed/'rinither out there

[Spoon]

Yeah, if you character is a wuss.

[X-D]

Yeah, if you character is a wuss.

[Dalmeth]

My tip for breeds : don't read the boards.  Be ignorant of everything someone didn't tell you, including a few fringe facts in the docs.  This means a doing a lot of things without really knowing why, or the, "everyone else was doing it," syndrome.  Have nothing relevant to talk about except your own, pointless drivel, and you will have gone a long way to replicating the half-elven mindset.

[The7DeadlyVenomz]

Basically this.  Stop being an OOC wimp and cause some damn conflict.

If someone's playing a breed, give the player the benefit of the doubt and presume they WANT to be treated like a breed.

Uh. Who gives a shit about benefit of the doubt?

[Gunnerblaster]

If you're a breed, expect to be treated like a breed and don't throw an OOC bitch-fit.

If you're sticking up for a breed, you better have a real damn good reason.

This ain't happy-cuddles-land. This is motherfucking Zalanthas, people.

[Jingo]

Similarly, don't expect a breed's comrade in arms to take your side against the breed.  People sometimes forget that there are more dynamics at play than just race.

If Joe Nobody is trashing that respected breed trooper, he might as well be trashing the entire unit.

[Gunnerblaster]

Similarly, don't expect a breed's comrade in arms to take your side against the breed.  People sometimes forget that there are more dynamics at play than just race.

If Joe Nobody is trashing that respected breed trooper, he might as well be trashing the entire unit.

Breed trooper shouldn't be respected unless he can handle Joe Nobody on his own...

How I've always played Breeds is that there's only one person they gotta look out for: Themselves. No one's going to hand them shit. In fact, it'll be the opposite. Gotta fight, tooth, nail and bone for what they have. They can't handle it - They die or end up subservant to the other races.

I figure, the only Breeds who have "respect" have usually earned it in quite a bloody fashion.

Just sayin' - If you're a Breed relying on others for help, you're either a very broken Breed or you just aren't doing something right.

[Jingo]

Breed trooper shouldn't be respected unless he can handle Joe Nobody on his own...

It's situational. Breed trooper isn't necessarily on his own. The rest of the unit could conceivably be dragged into a conflict. Whether intentionally or not.

I figure, the only Breeds who have "respect" have usually earned it in quite a bloody fashion.

Yeah. You likely won't see any savvy breed politicians or shrewd breed merchants. The breed needs to be good at what he does which in game seems to be either hunting or fighting.

Just sayin' - If you're a Breed relying on others for help, you're either a very broken Breed or you just aren't doing something right.

That's your opinion. I've heard the same thing said about city elves, and it isn't necessarily true there either.

[Gunnerblaster]

Breeds, to me, have always been a race seeking a fierce independence while, at the same time, wanting some sort of acknowledgment or acceptance.

Let me rephrase what I meant about Breeds relying on others. I think it's totally acceptable for a Breed, once having exhausted all independent options, to seek out the assistance of others as a means to accomplishing their goal.

Zalanthas is the separation of High Fantasy breeds from the Low Fantasy breeds.

[DustMight]

I think that John Snow from "Game of Thrones" is good example of how a breed might be.  Bitter, torn, struggling with the differing forces inside himself.  Longing for acceptance.  All that.

[Kalai]

If you're not playing a breed, please realize that many breed players, most even actively desire you to spit on, shun, and maltreat them.

Abuse them, for their sake, please.

[Dakota]

Breed trooper shouldn't be respected unless he can handle Joe Nobody on his own...

It's situational. Breed trooper isn't necessarily on his own. The rest of the unit could conceivably be dragged into a conflict. Whether intentionally or not.

I figure, the only Breeds who have "respect" have usually earned it in quite a bloody fashion.

Yeah. You likely won't see any savvy breed politicians or shrewd breed merchants. The breed needs to be good at what he does which in game seems to be either hunting or fighting.

Just sayin' - If you're a Breed relying on others for help, you're either a very broken Breed or you just aren't doing something right.

That's your opinion. I've heard the same thing said about city elves, and it isn't necessarily true there either.

Situational maybe. But Breed's being, by and large, the most looked down upon, kicked, scum-sucking refuge of a race in Arm? Not situational and the environment which we as PC's RP in and add too should mirror that. They're exceptions to rules yes, but they are very rare and not every breed, 2/3rds, 1/4th of all breeds would be that exception.

They're mangy, low-down, dirty mongrels. Much like gickers but they come in all sorts of shapes and forms.

It's all in the docs in language much more concise than mine

[Taven]

I figure, the only Breeds who have "respect" have usually earned it in quite a bloody fashion.

Yeah. You likely won't see any savvy breed politicians or shrewd breed merchants. The breed needs to be good at what he does which in game seems to be either hunting or fighting.

But you could. There's nothing to say that a breed can't be a shrewed merchant, or involved politically (although obviously for a breed that looks like a breed, political potential is limited).

The docs lean towards half-elves being hunters, yes...

Half-elves are somewhat solitary types, and many spend most of their time out in the desert. They are rumoured to have a special rapport with beasts of all kinds, but whether this is true or not, or if it is due to something innate in their nature or simply because they spend a lot of time with their mounts, is a matter of debate.

Roleplaying: Accepted by neither humans nor elves, half-elves tend to be extremely self-reliant, and they pride themselves on this trait. Half-elves try to do everything for themselves, such as hunting for their own meals and camping well apart from others they are with. Despite this, half-elves typically try to gain acceptance by elves or humans and will go out of their way toward that end. In many ways, half-elves are on a continual journey to establish their personal identity.

...but they also allow for much more then that. (emphasis mine)

Finally, this cycle of independence and acceptance does not dictate the roles which a half-elf can have. While most people easily identify the half-elf persona as a ranger-type character, it is equally applicable to merchants, thieves, slaves, or just about anything else.

[FantasyWriter]

THis was suppose to be a fun thread about humorous things to do to breeds IG.
There are plenty of threads arguing racism in the Roleplay discussion forum. Go find one.

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[Morrolan]

• The spiky-haired half-breed is here, being used as a chimney-sweep.
• The black-dressed, kohl-eyed halfbreed is here, failing to look dramatic.
• The purple-dressed half-elf is here, makin' the Joker look all stable 'n stuff.

[FantasyWriter]

Oh wow, if I didn't love my current quote, I would so use that last one.
*thinks of a future breed assassin/knifemaker role*

[Kevo]

I tend to think there is ample amount of breed-abuse IG, though perhaps it's not always visible, if however, you're reaching for ideas, remember, breeds aren't human, sub-human, really, so even the nicest of PC's might

:seduce a breed, privately, then when breed talks to you in public, get your real mate to beat the crap out of them.
:convince breed he's not actually a breed, and encourage him to talk to those friendly elves loitering on Hathor's.
:having a breed friend is great for low self-esteem. You get to beat on them all day, and they won't leave you.
:report to militia that (insert meaningless, random lost object here) was stolen by breed, regardless if they were even around. Obviously he keeps looking at you because he's looking to steal more.

I'd love to see more breed abuse, as an avid player of breeds. (not for stats, being Bi-polar IRL helps me justify my chars mood swings if they're already mentally unstable)

Also, for those looking for good sociopathic roles to play, breeds work great.
Frankly, I'd like to see all the demi-humans in game in the byn be put in their own group, perhaps we should reinvent the idea of petards? Anyone got any flashpowder?

[John]

1. Aaah, but there's always that, "Why would a merchant risk losing a customer by over-charging?!" bit...

If everyone overcharges breeds then the breed is forced to pay or do without. For essentials and highly desirables they wont' do without.

By charging fair prices to breeds you encourage them to come to your store more which will discourage decent folk from coming to your store. If I constantly see breeds in a particular store all the time, I'm going to see if I can go somewhere else instead.

Breeds are so fucked up because they are hated by all, not because they're hated the most. I don't get why racist people IG would hate breeds more than the full blood members of their least favorite race.

Because you have all this pent up anger towards elves but can't do anything because there's so many of them! And they all form these gangs (sorry, "tribes") and will gang up on you and the militia might not be there when they do!

But breeds. They aint got no-one backing them. They're universally reviled by all. Both human and elf. It's safe to beat up on a stinking half-breed and let out all your anger and frustration on the little fecker. What's he going to do? Go to the militia? As long as you don't get out of hand they'll just laugh at him.

So, as long as I want my PC alive -- they have to kiss ass with every gemmer/breed/'rinither out there

I'd rather be dead then kiss the ass of a damn breed. A life where you gotta respect a breed aint no life at all.

[FantasyWriter]

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[My 2 sids]

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[NOFUN]

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