How to Guide for Using Breeds (and how not to)

[Marauder Moe]

If not enough people are discriminating against your half-elf, your half-elf should be freaking out about why everyone's being so nice.

[Dakota]

Also used to check any new dark areas. Breeds, the disposible mobile light source, Don't need to be able to throw torches, just have a breed in your group.

Brilliant.

+1 to Breeds to shout and scream once they go inside the hole.

[Kalai]

If not enough people are discriminating against your half-elf, your half-elf should be freaking out about why everyone's being so nice.

^ They're mocking you. They've decided you're an interesting toy to practice social conventions on and don't even realize you exist. They have recognized you have some talent and intend to abuse it out of you and work you to death. There is something even more flawed in them than in you and they are sorry enough creatures to actually see a breed as worthy of companionship; avoid them like the plague because they probably have it. They are kind souls and have taken pity on your worthless condition ... and will probably try to do things for you that you can do perfectly well on your own because feck you, you roundear 'tok, my sharp ears make me better than your slow fat rear at everything and I don't have to obey grammar if I am angry enough and, wait, krath, did I just make my only friend decide to kill me....? I am such an idiot.

Is there really a time half-elves aren't freaking out?

[JustAnotherGuy]

Heh, Breeds that talk back... oh I used to love that.  There have been times where I actually felt bad for what I was having my PC do to a breed... then I remember, it's a breed.

[Gunnerblaster]

My breeds discriminate against other breeds.

That's how hardcore I am.

[Nyr]

My off-peak breeds insult themselves and beat themselves up.

[Kol]

My off-peak breeds insult themselves and beat themselves up.

Your on-peak breeds should be doing so aswell. 

[Sam]

You need to remember who you are dealing with. This quote from "Godslayer" by Mickey Zucker Reichert sums it up.

"You stupid animal!" Halfrija's voice rose in pitch and volume. "We hate you now more than ever. We would kick and spit, even slay you if we didn't fear your power. You're no man, you're a beast. Worse than a beast, for a rat is content with its lot and you have the audacity to pretend you're human!"

[RogueGunslinger]

Sounds more like a 'gicker to me.

[Gunnerblaster]

Sounds relatively epic, to me.

*Goes to look up "Godslayer"*

[Sam]

The first scene spells out the half breed mentality. He tries so desperately to be loved, but it only makes people hate him more.

[Qzzrbl]

Also?

Most of these suggestions can be switched out for 'Rinthis of any race! O:

Srsly, there needs to be moar 'Rinthi hate.

Not this whole, "Herp derp, I want the unique accent point Labyrinth move to Cenyr after, herp derp."

[Kalden]

Picking on 'rinthers is kind of similar to making fun of poor kids in the ghetto. It might seem like a good, fun idea until you come home and your car's windows are all smashed in and the tires are slashed - if you're lucky. I definitely know kids in real-life who just shot up or beat people to death with real weapons - over a few insulting words. When life sucks, you don't care so much about consequences. Most suburbanites are a bit more careful.

Of course, this is coming from a guy who in real-life called the cops to help him drag a local thug who had punched his friend out of the bar, and received death threats in response.

[Qzzrbl]

Picking on 'rinthers is kind of similar to making fun of poor kids in the ghetto. It might seem like a good, fun idea until you come home and your car's windows are all smashed in and the tires are slashed - if you're lucky. I definitely know kids in real-life who just shot up or beat people to death with real weapons - over a few insulting words. When life sucks, you don't care so much about consequences. Most suburbanites are a bit more careful.

Of course, this is coming from a guy who in real-life called the cops to help him drag a local thug who had punched his friend out of the bar, and received death threats in response.

When I say 'Rinthi hate, I mean less of, "Oh, hey, I see you're a dirty piece of shit that came from a horrible place and you were probably raised to think it's a-okay to cut someone's throat for looking at them wrong.... Yeah, sure, you can join my crew in this merchant house in a city far away from your home."

You don't have to call someone a low-life piece of trash to their face to make them feel unwelcome. ;p

[ianmartin]

Discrimination comes in many forms and unfortunately what I don't see are the more subtle forms of discrimination, such as:

1.  Human:  I'd like to buy that mace     ShopKeeper:  That'll be 50 sid
     Breed:   I'd like to buy that mace     Shopkeeper:   That'll be 75 sid

2.  A breed walks into the bar:  The Kadian merchant drapes a leg over the only empty stool at the bar.

3.  Patrol is riding down the North Road:  Look North:   You see the breed attacked by 4 gortoks
     Patrol leader:  I have drinks ready at the tooth, let's push on, I'm tired anyway.

[Qzzrbl]

Discrimination comes in many forms and unfortunately what I don't see are the more subtle forms of discrimination, such as:

1.  Human:  I'd like to buy that mace     ShopKeeper:  That'll be 50 sid
     Breed:   I'd like to buy that mace     Shopkeeper:   That'll be 75 sid

2.  A breed walks into the bar:  The Kadian merchant drapes a leg over the only empty stool at the bar.

3.  Patrol is riding down the North Road:  Look North:   You see the breed attacked by 4 gortoks
     Patrol leader:  I have drinks ready at the tooth, let's push on, I'm tired anyway.

1. Aaah, but there's always that, "Why would a merchant risk losing a customer by over-charging?!" bit... Not to mention there are a few elf and half-elf merchants out there. Then again, coded racism from all sides like that would be pretty cool.

2. > sit bar (like a boss, 'cause your emote can't codedly stop me, harh)

3. ... I think this actually happens every now and then. >_>

[Is Friday]

I don't know why people try to think with a non-speciest, non-xenophobic set of rational reasoning skills when applying IC logic to things.

[Qzzrbl]

I don't know why people try to think with a non-speciest, non-xenophobic set of rational reasoning skills when applying IC logic to things.

Word.

::Edited to add::

Probably because folks are paranoid about that breed they just beat up winding up with this.

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[X-D]

2.  A breed walks into the bar:  The Kadian merchant drapes a leg over the only empty stool at the bar.

3.  Patrol is riding down the North Road:  Look North:   You see the breed attacked by 4 gortoks
     Patrol leader:  I have drinks ready at the tooth, let's push on, I'm tired anyway.

On #2, sadly there is no coded smack the crap out of dude option that does not trigger crime code.(Brawl does not count since both PCs must agree to brawl, If a PC decides to not braw he need only sit down or leave the brawl room)     I really wish there was. Like an actual combat version of brawl, long as unarmed and stops the fight when somebody hits like 30% of max HP. Even better if soldiers run in and watch and only arrest after the battle is done and the jail time is the same as a failed pick pocket attempt.


On #3...Yes, that happens.

[Dakota]

I don't know why people try to think with a non-speciest, non-xenophobic set of rational reasoning skills when applying IC logic to things.

Word.

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Probably because folks are paranoid about that breed they just beat up winding up with this.

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And all of this is what I would equate to very lousy RP.

[Ender]

I don't know why people try to think with a non-speciest, non-xenophobic set of rational reasoning skills when applying IC logic to things.

Word.

::Edited to add::

Probably because folks are paranoid about that breed they just beat up winding up with this.

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backstab                      (master)

And all of this is what I would equate to very lousy RP.

Basically this.  Stop being an OOC wimp and cause some damn conflict.

[My 2 sids]

In order to be played well though conflict takes, imho, at least two.

One -- don't create breeds, gemmers, and 'rinithers then expect to have all this "clout" because you're A) rich   B)  connected

Two -- to all those employing "breeds, gemmers, and 'rinithers" remember:  if anyone ever decides said "boil on the arse of society" is feeling a little too confident/ welcomed in the world -- they may just start investigating why.  And if they start investigating why -- they may trace said "boil" back to YOU. 

[Zoan]

Basically this.  Stop being an OOC wimp and cause some damn conflict.

If someone's playing a breed, give the player the benefit of the doubt and presume they WANT to be treated like a breed.

[spicemustflow]

Breeds are so fucked up because they are hated by all, not because they're hated the most. I don't get why racist people IG would hate breeds more than the full blood members of their least favorite race.

[Qzzrbl]

Breeds are so fucked up because they are hated by all, not because they're hated the most. I don't get why racist people IG would hate breeds more than the full blood members of their least favorite race.

A human who hates elves could hate half-breeds more than elves for a variety of reasons.

For instance, elves are bad, yeah, but at least they generally keep to themselves. They don't come up and try to identify with you as a person, and you can definitely tell an elf from a human.... Which isn't always the case when it comes to breeds.