Prostitution - Expectations?

[Nahara]

... Wait, -after- fading to black? Usually I'd expect a client to pay first. Safer that way. Maybe that's just me though.

[Wolfsong]

My only complaint with PC whores is that they usually charge way too much, given their status. I've seen them trying to charge 200, 300, and even 500 sids for a fuck when in reality a low class whore of their (typical) stature would be paid around only, what 10-50 sid a pop? 100 at best? I mean, from an OOC standpoint I can understand - if you don't fade, that's potentially a big waste of time (roleplay aside) and for only a few peasley sids, it wouldn't feel worth it. But still, give me more diseased alleyway whores charging 50 sid for a go behind the tavern, and give me more of those whores who haggle with their customers over the price.

[Nahara]

From a semi-OOC standpoint, charging 10 sid and not fading is rather a recipe for starvation. 

[Spoon]

If I wanted someone to go through sexy torture I wouldn't withhold payment if they wanted to fade to black on the grounds of being a pervert and wanting my money's worth.

BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE YOUR SICKLY, OOC DESIRE FOR FILTH. Lizzie.

[Lizzie]

If I'm gonna spend some coded coins for sexy entertainment, then I want that to be coded sexy entertainment. If my sexy entertainer insists on virtual entertainment, they'll have to accept virtual coins.

Good thing for all involved, that my characters do not, and will not, have any interest in buying sex from a PC.

There, it's done. There shouldn't be any penalties for this like being paid less. You don't like it? Download some porn.

If you don't pay my whore after fading to black, then expect some very real IC consequences. Your character may end up a eunuch otherwise. Just because it's happening in a fade doesn't mean it's not happening.

And just because you're getting paid in an emote, doesn't mean it's not happening

Spoon: Keep my filth out of this.

[Semper]

I'm actually curious if players in general are able to give virtual coins for virtual service. Seems reasonable enough.

Like...I want you to guard my virtual food shop. You'll get paid virtual food in exchange.

[Akoto]

I'm actually curious if players in general are able to give virtual coins for virtual service. Seems reasonable enough.

If you mean for whores, sure, happens all the time.

If you mean in general, for several professions, absolutely. Whores are paid coins to provide virtual entertainment. Aides are paid to be virtual personal secretaries. Guards are paid to be the virtual law enforcement. Most won't actually RP their entire week of work.

Edit: Ooh, now I get what you're asking. Pretend payment for a virtual service. This, I would doubt, since you'd be expending resources without any penalty to yourself.

[jhunter]

Not paying someone coded coins for choosing to fade to black is complete bullshit. Coins are coded, sex is not and the right to fade to black is provided for in the rules to the game. All doing this does is punish people for OOC reasons and make it less likely that people will play that type of character. People typically prostitute themselves because they cannot provide for themselves in any other way. Making it so people have to have a second job (second to prostitution) in order to provide for themselves, is kinda silly and unrealistic.
I think that 50-100 'sids for penetration is fair for lower class. More or less depending on how well they take care of themselves/how well they keep their appearances up. Unless we're talking the 'rinth, I'd say 20-50 'sids for penetration. A bit higher class? 100+ for penetration.

[MeTekillot]

Of all the sexual experiences I've encountered IG, I haven't faded. I asked for consent, emote thrusts blahblahblah, and the scene played out. I saw nothing wrong with it.

I would also not have a problem FTB either. It's not that big of a deal to withold coin because the other person didn't emote about them moaning or some other bullshit.

[Tallulah]

I prefer to FTB, and it's disenheartening to think that people would hold that against me rather than respect my boundaries.  That being said, if you hire a whore, you should pay them actual coins regardless.  They are a PC that needs to survive just as much as yours does, and it's not fair to hold their OOC personal boundaries against them.

[Barzalene]

I can see why someone would expect to get what they're paying for though. Maybe the lesson here is you should ask before you hire them.

[Cutthroat]

When a person tortures a victim and either player chooses to fade, the torture took place, and the victim's player must decide how his character was affected via OOC communication with the torturer to determine how the scene panned out (did the victim give up information? did he die during torturing?) The effects are then RPed (the victim sings like a canary or accepts getting attacked and disengages until he dies).

In a similar vein, when a prostitute has sex with a client and either player chooses to fade, the sex took place, and the client's player must decide how his character was affected via OOC communication with the prostitute to determine how the scene panned out. The effects are then RPed (one of which will likely be paying the prostitute).

The point is that an IC action took place even though at least one of the two players decided not to RP it out, but skip the dirty stuff and move right on to what happened next. It is, in essence, unacceptable from an roleplaying standpoint to treat an FTB differently than if the scene was played out, for better or worse. Suck it up and just do what's IC for your character. If your character didn't like it you don't have to use them again.

[Praetorian]

For those of you who play or have played prostitutes do you find most of your 'clients' Fade to Black, or is going through the whole gambit of sweaty thrusting and bodily fluids spraying everywhere the typical expectation? 

Man, you people have thread derailment down to an absolute artform.  This was the original inquiry - a basic desire to know from prostitute players standpoint how often (and by default how well received) fading to black occurs.  For the few that gave insight into this, thank you.    Though the arguments about how much they charge, whether they can be virtually paid, and torture, and all that good stuff is entertaining all the same.

[MeTekillot]

Responding to the original inquiry:

I only enjoy a very moderate amount of spraying bodily fluids.

[boog]

Some people like silt pearl necklaces.

[deviant storm]

It's late, and I'm tired, so forgive my lack of coherency.

I've played hookers in the past. Well, one in Luirs, and some others who only dabbled on the side at it to supplement an income.

I remember one time some guy paid for some ic youngster's first time with a whore, and we I think faded to black and just talked for a while oocly. I'm not sure if I remember that right, though, because it was many years ago. Though if I were to make a statistical-type guess I'd say about 30 percent of the whore 'business' was with people who FTB. I didn't mind either way, and for the most part I got paid in good old sid.

[Ashes]

How many whores are male, in relation to the number of female whores?

[RogueGunslinger]

Something right around 50:50, despite what in-game NPC populations might dictate.

[netflix]

Some people like silt pearl necklaces.

Hmm, pink, lavendar or black. I'm really not sure which result would be the worst.

[Saellyn]

I've honestly had mudsex only once without fading.....

Mostly because I don't want to put the person on the other end through my emotes..... I can emote -alot- of stuff. But sex ain't one of 'em.

Though a couple of players lately have been giving me the rundown of the basics and whatnot. x]

Also had a few of PCs that would buy any whore available.

One of 'em even wound up being quite a Casanova despite his freak-ass mutations.

FTBing aaaalllll the way.

And just OOCing the basics of went down.

Even passed on a couple of crotch fleas....

Awesome.

*Gasp!* YOU BEAT ME TO CROTCH FLEAS!? DAMN YOOOUUUUUUUU!!

Personally sometimes I want to FTB. Sometimes I want to play it out. And anybody who knew who I was would confirm this. Anyways. I'm good at what I do (;

[Bogre]

I'd hire prostitute PC's to support their concepts, but personally I'd fade.

[jhunter]

When a person tortures a victim and either player chooses to fade, the torture took place, and the victim's player must decide how his character was affected via OOC communication with the torturer to determine how the scene panned out (did the victim give up information? did he die during torturing?) The effects are then RPed (the victim sings like a canary or accepts getting attacked and disengages until he dies).

In a similar vein, when a prostitute has sex with a client and either player chooses to fade, the sex took place, and the client's player must decide how his character was affected via OOC communication with the prostitute to determine how the scene panned out. The effects are then RPed (one of which will likely be paying the prostitute).

The point is that an IC action took place even though at least one of the two players decided not to RP it out, but skip the dirty stuff and move right on to what happened next. It is, in essence, unacceptable from an roleplaying standpoint to treat an FTB differently than if the scene was played out, for better or worse. Suck it up and just do what's IC for your character. If your character didn't like it you don't have to use them again.

Right. My point is that the OOC construct of the other player choosing to fade to black should have no bearing on whether or not they are paid with coded coin.

[netflix]

I'd hire a prostitute, but only if it was played by Bogre.

I'd hire prostitute PC's to support their concepts, but personally I'd fade.

[Akaramu]

Of course everyone has the right to FTB. But if the client of a FTB whore wants to spread gossip that they were boring, afterwards? Probably fair game as well.

Personally, I hope I don't get into an IC situation to play any more whores anytime soon. It really isn't my favourite kind of role.

[Booya]

I played a rinthi whore years ago who charged 30 sids a pop if i remember rightly. Sometimes I mudsexed, sometimes I faded and got coins, and I also had an ongoing virtual contract with a Byn Sergeant who gave me coins when I hinted I was dangerously low. (She was 100% a whore, no crafting or anything on the side).

It was fun.

I suspect the longer she'd lived, the more I would have faded. I definitely would have expected to be paid because the payment is for virtual sex, not sexual emotes scrolling up your screen...isn't it?

To potential players of whores, i'd say don't underestimate the playerbase. If you have an interesting or fun character, or even if you just play a boring one well, normally there will be players (like Bogre) that support and play with you. Peak and off peak.